Simpin Ain't Easy: The Official Thread For Drake's Sophomore Album, TAKE CARE

was he the guy who commissioned/wrote that piece about pitchfork reviews reviews?

yeah.

like i said i'm not defending his writing or taste here dude. stop pretending you can ignore everything you don't like as if it's not a part of the conversation

whose conversation? i don't care to be beholden to a conversation with parameters and subjects set by the straightwhitemen of rockcrit thanks all the same

not that i'm saying anyone should go down their own personal rabbithole à la certain other critics, but slavishly following what "the crowd" is talking about is nagl x a milli

and yes of course you can ignore what you don't like if you want. we all do it all the time

who is slavishly following what the crowd is talking about? you are so weird

you!

you live in such a bizarre fractured world sometimes dude. yes, i cant believe that i would read a review of what is going to be one of the year's biggest selling records in the genre that i cover in the country's paper of record.

at a certain point, your perspective stops being about go-your-own-way iconoclasm and becomes irresponsible journalism

otm

i thought this posts by tom ewing were smart albeit brief descriptions of drake that i don't see many critics observing in the mad rush to observe how not-hard he is

https://twitter.com/#!/tomewing/status/136823800967856128

https://twitter.com/#!/tomewing/status/136824596463751169

http://www.egotripland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/TakeOut.jpg

looooool @ "irresponsible journalism"

looool @ the idea of ignoring people you disagree with instead of thinking critically

tend to side w/ deej here... maybe lex doesn't care about the NYT bcuz he's not american? idk

I don't ignore people I disagree with (after all I'm talking to jordan here, right?), I ignore people who are bad, basic writers and thinkers and therefore irrelevant to me. Esp if I don't find the artist they're writing about particularly interesting.

I don't read every Guardian article either!

And I'll reiterate - we ALL do this

Jordan is kinda right re britishness but it's drake who is not a big deal here, not year gray lady

*your

i didn't read carmancia's piece cuz altho i think he's a good writer i've definitely hit take care fatigue. i'll get it to it at some point tho.

take care fatigue meaning reading about the album, not listening to it

caramanica is always worth reading period, even he's really gone to bat for some bullshit in recent years

there are some really, really good parts in that review

i feel like i've been trying to find many ways over the past few months to say that drake is rap's "connective tissue" and then carmancia up and did it

what does that mean to you? i just assumed he meant hes p much the central figure in rap which seems more or less otm since wayne fell off

anyway, i wanted to link to this bcuz i think its interesting http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/11/15/142362361/drake-two-ways-a-conversation-about-take-care?sc=tw&cc=share

ann powers seems a bit ott in this imo

I've even taking to invoking his callow wisdom in family situations. "Jealousy is just love and hate at the same time," I advised my daughter when she reported a conflict in her grade school lunchroom, stealing the line from this album's opening track. Who said hip-hop wasn't edifying?

*kills ann powers, world*

i appreciate that you all are 'music critics' and have to 'talk abt an album' but this guy is srsly the worst in the world, straight baby thighs

otm

the exuberant level of enthusiasm ppl have for it is one thing that leaves me wanting to read more about it, bcuz i dont get it

its encouraging so much hyperbole & etc. This really is like the miseducation of aubrey graham

that "crew love" is the deep cut all the DJs are playing right away makes me imagine this album is even worse than it probably is

lol @ ann powers

"crew love" is one of the worst songs on the album but it's also the one he decided to debut on the radio the night the album leaked so that might have something to do w/ it

deej...90% of critics have dreadful taste. this was the case before drake and will be the case after drake (please let "after drake" come soon).

connective tissue between what and what??? smh

It's so weird, I was just in the store and picked up the Drake cd to look at it and all of the Me'shell Ndegeocello albums just evaporated...

i know frannie, so i'm relieved that she's totally otm in that piece

"crew love" is one of the worst songs on the album

yeah, it kinda typifies the albums worst qualities imo, its torpid solipsism

what on the album doesn't?

the weeknd is SUCH a shitty singer

i appreciate that you all are 'music critics' and have to 'talk abt an album' but this guy is srsly the worst in the world, straight baby thighs

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:45 PM

Katy Perry is worse though.

katy perry at least sounds like she's enjoying herself.

does she though?

compared to drake, nico sounds like she's enjoying herself.

its p stupid: im listening to this 'properly' at home again in an effort to have an opinion i guess and i like parts of some songs ok but i dont really think the atmosphere works cuz drake is just sorta uncharismatic to me??? theres also the fact that its intense self-absorption does make it hard to project yrself into the fantasy of it all, im not sure where to 'place' myself in relation to the song so even the tracks i think 'work' as compositions (say 'practice') come across as watery and turgid

i know frannie, so i'm relieved that she's totally otm in that piece

― timellisonmyside (some dude), Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:12 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont know her but when i wrote a couple things for npr we exchanged emails, generally enjoy her writing & she seems to have good taste

katy perry at least sounds like she's enjoying herself.

pretty sure Pol Pot allowed himself a teenage dream or two as well.

honestly prefer drake to the weeknd dude, tho

i appreciate that you all are 'music critics' and have to 'talk abt an album' but this guy is srsly the worst in the world, straight baby thighs

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:45 PM

Katy Perry is worse though.

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok i just spent like two mins trying to come up w/ways in which katy perry is better than drake that didnt involve boobs and i guess it comes down to at least katy isnt trying to bare her vile soul to us

also i like the one smurfs dress she wore

where drake has the worst fashion

wow i think drake is my current most hated celebrity enemy, move along andy samberg you smirking choad

what abt shia bro cant forget shia