Smashing Pumpkins: Fresh Fruit or Rotten Veg?

It was actually really great! I had a brilliant time!

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Great! :)

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EMI Label Services/Caroline Distribution has announced that it has entered into an exclusive agreement with Martha’s Music to release the highly anticipated album from THE SMASHING PUMPKINS entitled OCEANIA on June 19th, 2012. The agreement covers the world excluding Canada, Brazil and Australia.

Produced by THE SMASHING PUMPKINS’ frontman Billy Corgan, OCEANIA is an intense and dynamic offering that will appeal to new and existing fans of THE SMASHING PUMPKINS alike. OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE.

Peter Katsis, manager of SMASHING PUMPKINS for Prospect Park, added: “The Smashing Pumpkins created Oceania as an album experience, and it is intended for the process of the release to follow a path of inclusion, so that best efforts are made for all the fans hear it at the same time as press or radio. We were excited to find partners in EMI Label Services that were equally passionate about the plan for the album release as well as being huge fans of the Pumpkins.”

in other words, this is likely a steaming pile of shit and we don't want to let reviews come out ahead of release date

lmao I didn't realize his new band was just a bunch of younger doppelgangers of the old Pumpkins

p much

except the chamberlain looking dude is the guitarist

oh my gawd

While I enjoyed seeing them live last year, I cannot recall any of the new songs in the slightest and I can't help but be very pessimistic about this new album.

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I'd listen to the nu-Pumpkins if they sounded like Tear Garden.

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I've heard many reports that this thing is actually really good and their best since Adore. Which, y'know, very low bar, but its enough to have me interested again.

It *sounds* great, better than they have in a while, but the songs aren't very striking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jelyGb0luj8

Possibly my favourite Simpsons line ever.

Did this story get posted somewhere already?
http://www.factmag.com/2012/06/12/slashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-threatens-to-piss-on-radiohead/

” I can’t think of any people outside of Weird Al Yankovic who have both embraced and pissed on Rock more than I have. Obviously there’s a level of reverence, but there’s also a level of intelligence to even know what to piss on. ‘Cause I’m not pissing on Rainbow. I’m not pissing on Deep Purple. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity. This value system that says Jonny Greenwood is more valuable than Ritchie Blackmore. Not in the world I grew up in, buddy. Not in the world I grew up in"

Billy Corgan otm, at least wrt to Greenwood and Blackmore.

Billy Corgan, enemy of pomposity.

yeah I am having problems wrapping my head around that

Yeah, that part is pretty o_O but when have we ever expected this fuckin' guy to have a decent impression of his own worth.

But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE. But I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity8====D---___OCEANIA, the band’s 7th studio record, is “an album within an album,” part of their 44-song work-in-progress TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE.

http://www.factmag.com/2012/06/12/slashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-argues-with-entity-that-is-not-arguing-back-calls-nonlistening-entity-buddy/

"Not in the world I grew up in, buddy. Not in the world I grew up in"

gonna guess that the recording of this has Corgan's voice getting progressively more distant and is immediately followed by the sound of a pub's lavatory door closing

I don't even know why he is comparing the two bands. Did he buy In Rainbows expecting a cover version of I Surrender?

LoL this thread is hilarious. This band is hilarious.

Last time i saw Smashing Pumpkins they were playing on the TV at some bar, and in-between some songs a bunch of wrestlers came out on stage to 'stop the show' and the Pumpkins had to fight back or something. This lame skit lasted maybe 5 mins or so and then the wrestlers left the stage and they went back into playing more music.

Also is that the album cover? It looks like it was randomly generated by myspace or something.

Does Billy Corgan not realise that if Jonny Greenwood ducks and he accidentally pees on Phil Selway instead, he'll have to endure years of Splashing Drumskins taunts?

xxp: I feel like this is Corgan's game though, right? playing the heel?

Look, if Corgan does actually piss on Radiohead (and let's hope that this will happen), I will pay good cash money on "Oceania". Not that I'd play it or anything.

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And then we have

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/159706-in-defense-of-billy-corgans-foray-into-professional-wrestling/

http://images.popmatters.com/news_art/m/mcguire-corganwrestling-splsh.jpg

(The picture is worth more than the article, which appears to have been written by a mummy.)

1) Weird Al >>>>> Billy Corgan
2) Maybe he was confusing In Rainbows and Rainbow? Corgan was all, huh, I thought Blackmore was in Rainbow, but this doesn't sound like him at all. And then he felt really foolish so lashed out.

Mayonnaise is probably the best Smashing Pumpkins song.

Mayonnaise is probably the best Smashing Pumpkins song.

in what world are Deep Purple and Rainbow NOT pompous

I mean, I agree with him that Blackmore is way more interesting/better than Johnny Greenwood but uh

Those wrestling medals/belts look weirdly like customised party cakes

I don't even know why he is comparing the two bands. Did he buy In Rainbows expecting a cover version of I Surrender?

― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 11:32

awesome.

i get what he's saying, but there are a lot more effective ways to voice your displeasure with guitar rock falling out of fashion. it's not a question of whether greenwood is better than blackmore, because no one listens to radiohead for the riffs.

the new album is actually pretty ok

Billy Corgan, enemy of pomposity.

That's what's making me laugh about this. And say what you like about Radiohead but I don't think they take themselves even half as seriously as Corgan.

Radiohead were a good riff band, around the same time Smashing Pumpkins was a good riff band. actually, they both started focusing on synths and drum machines around the same time shortly afterward too.

i wish i knew computer shit better so i could make a mash-up album "In Rainbow"

Reissues reissues reissues. Next up next week, Pisces Iscariot:

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‘PISCES ISCARIOT’:

Deluxe Physical Album Contents:
– Original Album Remastered & Reissued For The First Time
– 17 Previously Unreleased or Alternate Versions of Pisces Era Songs
– 24 Previously Unreleased Live Performances (Pulse Basement Jam, 1988) (DVD logo)
– First Ever SP Demo Reproduced on Cassette
– Postcards, Watercolor Illustrations, Lyrics, Photos
– Liner Notes by David Wild and Track-by-Track Annotations by Billy Corgan

Deluxe Digital Contents:
– Original Album Remastered
– 17 Previously Unreleased or Alternate Versions of Pisces Era Songs

Standard Physical, Digital and 180G Vinyl
– Original Album Remastered & Reissued For The First Time
– Includes: Starla, Landslide & La Dolly Vita

TRACKLISTS:
[CD 1] (Deluxe Physical/Digital, Standard Physical/Digital, Vinyl)

1. Soothe
2. Frail And Bedazzled
3. Plume
4. Whir
5. Blew Away
6. Pissant
7. Hello Kitty Kat
8. Obscured
9. Landslide
10. Starla
11. Blue
12. Girl Named Sandoz
13. La Dolly Vita
14. Spaced

[CD 2] (Deluxe Physical/Digital only)

1. By June (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 mix)
2. My Dahlia (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix)
3. Jesus Loves His Babies (Gish Sessions rough mix)
4. Cinnamon Girl (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix)
5. Glynis (2012 Mix)
6. Crawl (Gish Sessions outtake)
7. Cinder Open (Eddy St. demo/2012 mix)
8. Blissed (Sadlands demo/2012 Mix)
9. Slunk (Live)
10. Jackie Blue
11. Venus In Furs (Live)
12. Translucent (Sadlands demo/2012 mix)
13. French Movie Theme (Siamese Sessions outtake)
14. Purr Snickety (Gish b-sides session outtake)
15. There It Goes (demo/2012 mix)
16. Vanilla (Ignoffo Sessions)
17. Why Am I So Tired (Live in studio demo)

[DVD ] (Deluxe Physical Only)

Pulse Basement Jam ( 11/19/1988 - Pulse Cable Access - Lou Hinkhouse)

Introduction by Lou Hinkhouse

1. There It Goes
2. She (Inc.)
3. She
4. Under Your Spell
5. My Eternity (Inc.)
6. My Eternity (Inc.)
7. My Eternity (Inc.)
8. My Eternity
9. Bleed
10. Nothing and Everything
11. Jennifer Ever (Inc.)
12. Jennifer Ever (Inc.)
13. Jennifer Ever (Inc.)
14. Jennifer Ever (Inc.)
15. Jennifer Ever
16. Death of a Mind
17. Spiteface

Bonus Performaces
1. Blue (10/22/1991 - Atomic Records - Milwaukee, WI)
2. Offer Up (6/9/1992 - The Unicorn - Milwaukee, WI)
3. The Joker (6/10/1992 - The Unicorn - Milwaukee, WI)
4. Slunk (6/10/1992 - The Unicorn - Milwaukee, WI)
5. Dancing in the Moonlight (7/4/1993 - Raymond Revue Bar - London, UK)
6. Snap (8/11/1989 - Avalon - Chicago, IL)
7. Hello Kitty Kat (8/21/1994 - Starplex Amphitheater - Dallas, TX - 2nd stage
Lollapalooza performance)

DEMO CASSETTE (Deluxe Physical Only)

SIDE A
1. Jennifer Ever
2. East
3. Nothing And Everything

SIDE B
1. Sun (remix)
2. She (live)
3. Spiteface

rad!

Very excited for that one!

Also, the new album is not terrible and arguably their best since Adore.

Kind of annoyed that "Jennifer Ever" is only going to get relegated to a cassette though. Even for low-level SP B-sides that one never gets much love and I've always liked it.

Oceania is aight. they finally released a single off it and made the really odd choice of "The Celestials."

Pisces Iscariot is so dope, one of the most album-y and cohesive rarities comps ever

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