Don Trip & Starlito's Step Brothers tape from earlier this year

their style could easily be as influential and far-reaching as, say, Max B or the Jacka

haha

(well max b directly influenced wiz and asap rocky)

(just sayin)

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i dont think their style will be very influential at all, from a rapper perspective

i mean, they're not hugely distinctive stylists. they're good rappers, but

wait, so why is the album going to be a landmark

because its very good?

and a lot of influential people like it

oh, well, i don't know about that

since when is 'distinctive stylists' the only reason for people to like rappers, you're into asap rocky for ish's sake

who are you talking to

Guess I don't know how to do that.

Anyway, for Trip solo, search YouTube for "I'm On 1," "Feelin' Like Mike," "Vent," "Halloween," "Pistols in Paris," "Finale."

His Interscope debut, HELP IS ON THE WAY, should be out around March, barring delays (which obviously wouldn't be shocking). The only song from that that's seen the light of day is "Letter to My Son." Title track might be awesome based on concept.

this sounds hella boring but I will download it i guess

and a lot of influential people like it
--When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40)

The only link you provided was pitchfork rap coverage. I guess Die Antwoord are LEGENDS OF THE GAME

i would actually be very interested in hearing brainwasher's opinion

I'm working tonight on a long Trip story. Will post it here when it's done if anyone's interested.

The only link you provided was pitchfork rap coverage. I guess Die Antwoord are LEGENDS OF THE GAME

― shiroibasketshoes & tuxedos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:27 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you arguing just to argue? i would include you, noz, themartorialist, tom breihan, a variety of the rap pplz on twitter as influential -- basically any person i've read has had really positive things to say about both trip & lito.

why is it whenever i observe this kinds of stuff you and jordan jump to try & correct me? am i lying?

I'm working tonight on a long Trip story. Will post it here when it's done if anyone's interested.

― Hubie Brown, Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:29 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes do it

His Interscope debut, HELP IS ON THE WAY, should be out around March

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu0jfkJ1hC1qad6oyo1_500.gif

why is it whenever i observe this kinds of stuff you and jordan jump to try & correct me? am i lying?

― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:29 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark

i'm not saying that you're lying, i'm saying that maybe you're using the word "landmark" a bit too liberally

And "influential"

As people wrote above, STEP BROTHERS is great for the chemistry. Those guys are really good friends and you can tell they really enjoy working together and playing off each other. They made sure they recorded everything in the studio together. The video for "4th Song" has them doing a body-switch thing and parodying each other. Album is sort of spotty, but "Life" and the "Outtakes" thing at the end are probably the best tracks.

well, it is a prediction, but otoh im almost always right abt those things so

And "influential"

― shiroibasketshoes & tuxedos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:31 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you wouldn't consider those people 'influential'? in terms of driving what mags & websites & blogs cover?

like, there's literally not even been 10 "landmark" mixtapes in the history of rap

lol well if you're going to define landmark that way, then no this will never be a landmark album

jesus u guys know how to suck the fun out of discussion w/ pedantry

Like deej the whole thread has to do with you being insecure that you missed it on first pass (u did this w/ e40 too) and then trying to fit it in some modern canon narrative

Like just say "this is a dope album" IMO

man you guys turn every thread into this back and forth bullshit lol

well, it is a prediction, but otoh im almost always right abt those things so
--When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40)

Like a basketball player

if you want me to be more specific bcuz you're having trouble reading between the lines, i think 'step brothers' will end up fairly high on a lot of rap critics, magazine and blogger websites this year.

It's a dope album IMO

I'm skeptical about the release date too, but I talked to the program director of the biggest hip-hop/R&B station in town and he thinks that's legit, that Interscope is putting a lot of emphasis on this. He's heard – as have I, independently — that Jimmy Iovine has likened Trip to Tupac and has taken a personal interest in the project -- flying him to Detroit and Los Angeles to court him and hooking him up with Diddy as a mentor of sorts.

Like deej the whole thread has to do with you being insecure that you missed it on first pass (u did this w/ e40 too) and then trying to fit it in some modern canon narrative

Like just say "this is a dope album" IMO

― shiroibasketshoes & tuxedos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:34 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you're an idiot -- this doesn't describe this situation at all! I'm copping to it not being my thing at first you moron. i've described my process w/ the experience of the album honestly itt! i'm not trying to 'fit it into some modern canon narrative,' i'm talking about how its likely that a lot of critics will be supporting the album this year! which is probably true.

wait, i did what with e-40 too?

the first two revenue retrievin' albums were my number one record that year...

wait - Don Trip is that youtube rapper dude?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGUz-ntEPE

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2010/686376/

and i have posts all over this board pushing that record & explaining why i liked those & why it worked better for me than the album he'd released prior to that. are you trying to flag-plant because you started the 'lightweight jammin' thread? i dont understand what you're trying to say

wait, i did what with e-40 too?
--When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40)

There was some whiny comment that someone got to "Lightweight Jammin" before u.

i honestly have no idea what you're talking about, but i'm sure if was you self-consciously misinterpreting something in a self-aggrandizing way

That was a dope song IMO

(jay-z looks like lil b on that picture)

anyway, if jordan and whiney are done backseat driving this thread off of a cliff, i'd like to turn back to the album's content;

from what i've heard i like don trip more than starlito. i posted the 'letter to my son' vid in the ringtone thread & i dont think it got much love, didn't it exist in a pre-cee lo version?

sorry that you called this mixtape a landmark and i asked what you meant by that!

rom what i've heard i like don trip more than starlito. i posted the 'letter to my son' vid in the ringtone thread & i dont think it got much love, didn't it exist in a pre-cee lo version?

― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), lundi 14 novembre 2011 01:48 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGUz-ntEPE

sorry that you called this mixtape a landmark and i asked what you meant by that!

― J0rdan S., Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a structure (as a building) of unusual historical and usually aesthetic interest; especially : one that is officially designated and set aside for preservation

so, exactly what i was saying

there have been fewer than ten historically important mixtapes in rap history? great point. can we get back on topic? j0 if you havent heard this record, dont post itt again

also half that curren$y/alchemist mixtape is great

i used to bang some curren$y when i would drive to work in the morning -- good morning rap music

to me he's in the same zone as Consequence of like "writes better than most rappers but has an uncanny way of being so much more boring than most of them"

and Black Thought

well, it is a prediction, but otoh im almost always right abt those things so

'needs more love'

Curren$y has a much more artful way of putting words together than consequence imo.

Yes my self-aware pride about keeping up w the rap blogosphere was totally hilarious and not in any way knowing

Xp

i think pretty much the whole curren$y/alch tape is one of the best of the year

alley boy is p boring altho 'rob me a...' is becoming a minor classic i think, in the sense that is fairly memorable as far as stick-up tracks go

that said, its on the gibbs lp too so why have both

i wouldnt call the travis porter a landmark, ho ho, but i think if you combined its best moments with the best on 'music money magnums' you might have a great record

when i said don trip / starlito are occasionally not v. 'musical' i meant more that their style can momentarily take me out of the world created by their music by being kind of tone deaf -- not in the sense of being in the same key, but in the sense of fitting the overall mood of the track. w/ jordan's example, meek mill always makes his flow fit the style of the beat he's on --

--that said i think that for people who really like trip & starlito that might be part of the appeal the same way its non-interest in hooks is part of the appeal -- so basically, it makes sense that whiney likes this record, based on what he was saying upthread

if jordan will permit me to allow a few landmark records per year, i think that tity boi's 'trap a veli 2' was 2 chainz' landmark record & he's moved closer to pop but fallen further from 'interesting' since

i think that 2 chainz is a landmark rapper but i'm not sure if he has a landmark release -- the storyline of him moving into the default king of atl seems like a landmark moment to me, precisely bcuz he has no landmak release that warranted it

well, trap-a-veli 2 is the one i think is the best all-around record & it sort of set the archetype that he followed on 'codeine cowboy' (with 'feelin you' being the 'up in smoke,' etc.) and its also the one i heard a lot of people talk about after the fact

an sms commenter argued that his best record was the tape before that though for capturing a more unique vibe, i listened to it ages ago so i want to hear again but from what he was saying it also seems like a reasonable narrative

http://images.livemixtapes.com/artists/empire/stepbrothers/cover.jpg

That Alch Curren$y tape is cool but its kind of flat, Alchs beats dont peel my ears back enough, drums dont snap at all.

oh btw if whiney is curious i def prefer don trip & starlito to main attrakionz / green ova by like 10x so

i would agree w/ this

that should be a no brainer for any goon

thats should be on the goon entry exam

lol

young dolph is better than starlito & co. purely on the strength of being 10 times as hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-1FhDNw_Y

young adolph

got all my new memphis money on og boo dirty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmAIt7N82c&feature=relmfu

he looks like if webbie took roids

or abused hgh, really

also basically all of your opinions are wrong (i have no idea who scotty is)

― J0rdan S., Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

his opinion abt scotty is otm although im not convinced that working with burn 1 has ever nec. meant a rapper wont be boring

or to make things clearer, scotty is not the 1st boring talent hes worked w/

that young dolph song w/ gucci from earlier this year is good

or abused hgh, really

― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Monday, November 14, 2011 1:02 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

had this same thought

in non-internet-rap news, the Alley Boy mixtape is mastered so poorly that it's practically unlistenable

― shiroibasketshoes & tuxedos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was a curious post. alley boy, not internet rap; travis porter, internet rap?

you guys jump on me for making statements abt how popular an artist is w/ writers when its empirically true, but whiney can dictate whether something is INTERNET RAP with impunity, seems fair

don't be mad

but yeah that was a stupid statement that made no sense

i'm p sure alley boy is completely an internet phenomenon, tho just a diff subset of the rap internet than asap rocky and main attrakionz. i don't think alley boy is getting any burn on atlanta radio.

nah im pretty sure that's not the case. i mean, i dont know about what atlanta radio is like, but kelefa covered the new atlanta underground like 2-3 years ago; that stuff has local support

but i mean, im sure that a lot of that local support ...finds him on the internet. like everyone does these days.

everyone is on the internet now you can't differentiate. there are some that are only w/in a critical discourse but thats not true of alley boy or travis porter afai can tell

if by 'internet' he means, like, people on dissensus or hipinion are discussing them, then yes alley boy is also an internet artist, popular amongst europeans & former readers of 'out the trunk' alike

The Don Trip story I mentioned upthread:

http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/the-letter/Content?oid=3079513

nice will check out thnx