Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread

i just meant in the sense that he's maybe mentally checked out and is just plugging away at the thing that pays for his next yacht or whatever. lars has ALWAYS been kind of an awkward and unpleasant drummer for me to watch (and to a lesser extent listen to).

i dunno, he was the only member of the group visibly committed to BEING IN METALLICA in Some Kind Of Monster, with James busy keeping the Hulk at bay, and Kirk playing luke-warm water. Plus if he was just in it for the yachts this Lou Reed thing would not be happening, and St. Anger wouldn't have been so bold. That was his baby.

he is a horrible drummer to watch and listen to, though

Lars has always had an inferiority complex, as a drummer and as an Artist. He has always whined publicly about his perception as a drummer, and as the movie underscores, he clearly craves acceptance on several fronts: from his dad, from his bandmates, from the art world. He sees his former bassist's shitty band and says "this is the future." He sees Sigur Ros and says "this is what the cool people like." He gets a chance to work with Lou Reed, and surely somewhere in that busy Scandinavian brain of his he recognizes the potential to get something he thinks he does not have.

The interview Lars did with Howard Stern in September was fascinating. He had to take drumming lessons before recording Ride the Lightning.

i found that interview on that german show they posted on pitchfork a little bit depressing. think it was due to a combination of the presenter's woodenness, hetfield's inarticulateness and lou's churlishness. lars, thanks to a predictable turn of verbal diarrhea, was by far the most interesting to listen to.

on the question of lars, yeah i do think he has kind of "mentally checked out". obviously not in a passive way like charlie watts, given that he remains the most outspoken and effervescent member of metallica, but more in terms of how he seems to connect and engage with the music, which really seems to be at increasing odds with his public persona. there is definitely an element of celebrity and self-awareness in how he conducts himself, it's just that this seems removed from metallica somehow. it strikes me as kind of strange since the only thing he's famous for is being part of metallica.

lol at lou reading his shitty lyrics off of a teleprompter

I wonder if it was equipped with LouZoom.

He's been doing that for 20+ years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZRxjpxccF0

Ha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq4SqGStzE

http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gif

Forgert the politics of it all for 10 minutes. There is a great performance here by Lou and Metallica!!

jaypellch 1 day ago

Anyone else think that Lou looks like a withered version of ... Jason Newstead?

^^ not very flattering for poor Jase, but at least you qualified that with "withered".

did you guys hear about the doug yule/anthrax collaboration?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsloegANO31qht9b0o1_500.jpg

AHHH LOVE THAT

Mike Patton has some things to say:

I'm wondering, in view of the Lou Reed and Metallica record coming out...

MP: Oh man, how was it?

I'm glad there are records in the world like it.

MP: You know, it's funny you mention that, because today I'm meant to give a quote about the record. I haven't heard the record but the New York Times is doing a big piece on the cultural significance of a record like that... It's an interesting idea... what they're asking is: 'Is it worth it for an artist to take risks like this when there's going to be a huge backlash?' And they asked me. My first reaction was 'no comment'. I haven't heard the record, I'm not going to start talking out of my breeches here. But the 'idea' of a record like that I think is amazing. I think it's great. Why can't a fucking platinum-selling band work with an experimental pioneer? Why not?

It's good to hear a band outside of their comfort zone. They're Lou's bitches.

MP: Well, I've heard some stories, ha ha. I'll just leave it at that. The idea of it, conceptually, I'm all for it.

Now Lulu was based on two plays by Frank Wedekind. I'd ask Lou himself but I interviewed him once and it wasn't a very pleasant experience and I wouldn't want to go through that again...

MP: HA HA HA! He's a sweetheart too. He has his moments, as do all of us.

I thought he'd open up to me, I'm not like all the others.

MP: Nah, you don't break Lou. Just catch him on a good day. I love the guy, I really do. He's been super super sweet with me. I played with him and (John) Zorn once and he was really fun, and super super nice, and sweet and supportive. Yeah, I'd go to bat for him any day.

I think it's just journalists he doesn't like.

MP: Well you know, can you forgive him? Can you blame him?

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/metallica-and-lou-reeds-lulu-is-actually-excellent/248574/

Seriously!

Meanwhile RIP Lulu:

LouTallica completely fell off the Billboard 200 this week. That means sales of less than about 3,000 in week 2.

Lou—vinegary, unsteady-sounding—cries, "C'mon James!" In other words: Help me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this!

the atlantic gets it

http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gifHelp me, Metallica! Give me the power I need to do this! http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/smilies/headbang.gif

That's a little prayer I say to myself every morning.

Gotta pick up a few copies to sell on eBay someday.

Every year Warner Music has a big product sell-off for employees, the proceeds from which go to charity. I went this year and picked up the 3CD/1DVD Jane's Addiction box and the mammoth Neil Young Archives 10DVD thing; the latter cost me $40. I predict there will be a large stack of the fancy comes-in-a-tube edition of Lulu next year, probably for about $5 a pop.

I AM THE TUBE! I AM THE REMAINDER!

Has anyone made a comparison between this and Alban Berg's Opera in reviews?

Has anyone made a comparison between this and Alban Berg's Opera in reviews?

None of the press releases mentioned Alban Berg, so no.

http://www.movieline.com/2011/11/wim-wenders-on-until-the-end-of-the-world-at-20-its-amazing-soundtrack-and-loving-lulu.php

Wim Wenders gets it

Wim Wenders is the table

If only there had been liner notes by Robert Wilson explaining the whole thing to Metallica fans, there would be peace in the valley.

http://media.heavy.com/media/2011/11/lou_reed_metallica_lulu.jpghttp://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1376768928/TwitterPic4Web.jpg

pomploumoose

SPERMLESS LIKE POMPLAMOOSE

WAGGLING MY ASS LIKE A DARK POMPLAMOOSE

eggplants don't have asses

lulu mannequin's eyes are positively soulful compared to pomplalady

IT'S SAD, IT WAS JUNIOR DAD

Thread from 1983: So who IS that insufferable indie dude in the new Honda scooter TV ads?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6y9_0gsEg

i like this album a lot, i'm still listening to it quite a bit

Metallica & Lou Reed - Lulu

This week: #149
Last week: #34
Weeks on chart: 2
Sales this week: 3,150
Cume: 16,470

Waggle my ass like a dog prostitute coagulating heart...pumping blood...c'mon James!

I blame napster

Shush, Lars!

lOuTaLLica!
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/01/lou_reed_metallica_lulu_pazz_and_jop.php

the truth hurts

"the songs are made from a kind of vertical integration where the players communicate through each other to a perceived bottom layer"

awesome write-up, Brad, i am proud to stand as one of the 9 Lulu voters in P&J