both songs here are decent for like a minute, but the spazzy stuff is just boring.
there was definitely a lot of lesser industrial/ebm similar to this.
― ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
dubstep has yet to appeal to me
xp
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
this all seems like lame variations on silly industrial-goth shit that I found ridiculous back in the 80s
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
Thraed of Skrillex sounds like a Iain M Banks novel
― owenf, Friday, 11 November 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
see that stuff is actually superfresh to me now xp
i spent a lot of time going out & occasionally DJing etc. for the bulk of my 20s, in a variety of scenes, and so I know lots of the 'classic dj tracks' -- it became kind of boring at a certain pt because you start to critique the DJs & no longer get lost in that "i have no idea what any of these songs are' mindset ... i've been going occasionally to this goth club called 'neo' in chi that is superfun because i don't know, like, any of the tracks -- its all 80s industrial type ish. and they play, like, nine inch nails at the end of the night. its not so much that i love the music -- i'm not out buying this stuff or shazam-ing it -- i just like that there's a dance scene i haven't bled for knowledge, and i'm kind of enjoying keeping it that way
anyway, its def a retro scene at some level because they arent putting on any dubstep tracks.
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
goth club called 'neo'
roflz
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
i took j0rdan there when he first got here haha.
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
There's something potentially quite potent about the Brostep genre but i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
goth scene runs pretty deep in the Bay Area and I have had plenty of friends into it over the years. shit, once I lived with a woman who insisted she was conceived in a coffin... but it's just so silly. I'm sure DJP has a different perspective on it lol
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
Identify with deej's post the above.
I still have vivid memories of watching 'The Living End' at 17 and really enjoying all the pop-industrial used in the background (Nitzer Ebb or something I guess) and having no idea what it was. I've always wanted to stumble on a club playing stuff like that and get lost in it.
― Tim F, Friday, 11 November 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
lol
but yeah I see this pretty clear line from like Wax Trax >>> NIN >>> Aphex Twin >>> dupstep (I guess?) >>> this stuff and it's not really a lineage that interests me.
I guess I still like some Ministry records. That 1000 Homo DJs EP is good.
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol yeah I played the shit out of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9U5GHJZFE
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
seems like these songs have a set-up and a punchline which most old industrial didn't have. some of it was tongue in cheek, but it was like that straight through.
― ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
never really did the aphex twin or ministry thing or w/e so I've come to the conclusion that I don't really mind brostep - it's no more better or worse than say PATD! which is actually pretty good.
bring on the scary sprites!
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
Skrillex is producing the new Korn album. It's also a dubstep album (really)
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
this stuff also isn't just aphex twin, it's also video game midis
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
i have a (semi-guilty) love for spazzy, headbanging brostep breakdowns. most of the electronic music that i love is the opposite of this, and i don't seek it out, but it's hilarious and effective. also it becomes amazing if les twins are involved (though i can't see them dancing to a skrillex track; their taste in beats is impeccable, really):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G2JV_1RQoE
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol this actually makes me think I might like this
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
KORN have made a DUBSTEP album
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouCnSf2ffzY
you can actually hear a pretty direct connection btween the weird rhythmic approach of dubstep & stuff like this (this is a track i heard last time at neo -- contra what i just said, i did actually shazam this one)
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
dayo otm
Skrillex-brand brostep = video game music + pop-punk melodies + nu-metal breakdowns + "wobbles" + surface familiarity with drill-n-bass era aphex & fat of the land + some superficial elements of drum + bass
― Obama's metrosexual cool (crüt), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
ha deej, an old roommate of mine has a parody goth-industrial band that plays neo (he lives in chi).
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8YSsjIaDs
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
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― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, November 11, 2011 6:35 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes, me and deej went dancing at this club in my first night in the chi. the cool thing is that everyone there is super into dancing since it's not a "cool" place to be in the first place.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 November 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
man every skrillex song is really cool until the skronky "dubstep"-y parts
Due to the style of their music lacking a definite genre, they coined the term 'Industrial Jungle Pussy Punk' to describe their music, but later, they denounced the term
right
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
Between this and that Hipster House thread, I want to crawl further into a hole with a bunch of snooty Jazz records, and forget I ever had interest in anything youth oriented.
― ███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
the next Skrillex: http://www.celldweller.com/2011/
This dude is seriously next in line.
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://youtu.be/6f7N9gYXfZo
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:09 (twelve years ago) link
whoops:
http://www.youtube.com/celldweller#p/a/u/2/6f7N9gYXfZo
Just got out of skrillix so incred
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:10 (twelve years ago) link
one upthread sounds like girl unit
― post, Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/312620_581021671183_43201281_32126784_1224318942_n.jpgwelcome skrillex
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392046_581021721083_43201281_32126785_1505365520_n.jpghe had a crazy light show
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377577_581021890743_43201281_32126791_1680947541_n.jpg
there were hell of high school kids there
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392884_581021765993_43201281_32126787_1795426994_n.jpg
whatever he was wearing made the image of a robot/skeleton/alien creature behind him replicate his movements it was dope
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384955_581021751023_43201281_32126786_586144237_n.jpg
YAAAA
i would totally pay $25 to see him again tomorrow if it wasnt sold out & if my ears werent ringing like cray
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:50 (twelve years ago) link
2 sold out shows at a 4000 capacity venue, $25/ticket
guys this shit was so FUN. it also made me feel hella old / wish id dropped a bean before going
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link
I don't get where any and all mention of dubstep comes in. To me this sounds entirely like ca. 2006 blog house, albeit with hints of Ruskoesque midtone wobble. I mean, is it that you can't latch on to "electro" as a label anymore because it longer has cache, so they just semi-arbitrarily chose some "relevant" category it kinda might be able to fit into?
― Noise II Men (EDB), Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
Is Distance the Deftones of dubstep? Clue me in, gang!
― errant flynn, Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
Went to the Korn show at Roseland last week (kinda had to, I work for their label); the DJs weren't great. The first act was some horrorcore rap trio w/vaguely dubstep-ish beats, just kinda reminded me of shit on WordSound Records circa last millennium. But some of the later stuff was OK, especially if you just leaned against the back wall and let it vibrate your chest cavity like a massage chair. I will say that I am liking the new Korn album more than I have ever liked any of their previous work.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 12 November 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
The drug phrase "to drop a bean" immediately brings to mind the masturbation phrase "to flick a bean".
― kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
cool story bro
btw all the non-dubstep dropped was rap music -- opening acts (both of which were interestingly enough african american artists -- the group Two Fresh who did like a trip-hop thing & the straight up dubstep 12th Planet, who got tons of crowd love) each dropped Waka Flocka songs into their sets ('grove st party' and 'hard in the paint' respectively). this was pretty much the only non-dubstep music that didnt get, like, a 'dubstep remix'
the other thing that struck me as forehead smacking obvious about the crossover success of dubstep is that it lets people who've grown up dancing to hip-hop dance exactly the same way -- grinding on each other front-to-ass, at basically the same tempo as hip-hop
skrillex himself dropped 'hypnotize' & let it play for at least a full verse, possibly two (cant recall) and fatman scoop's "be faithful". also "welcome to jamrock". but he didnt overdo that stuff which was good. and he did incorporate a lot of different rhythmic templates -- reggae, house, dubstep, etc. at one pt even did a remix of kris kross' 'jump' where it was basically a perfect imitation of the rhythm, but using those cold metallic textures he uses so everything sounded like pistons covering 'jump.' the only way i recognized the rhythm was because he kept one snatch of the vocal sample in there from the original
also the cheesy singalong parts are basically the same thing as when you're at a corny sports bar and someone drops 'living on a prayer'
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
at basically the same tempo as hip-hop
nb this might not actually be true, iirc most dubstep is around 70bpm (or 140 bpm played at halftime) which is actually a bit slower than most hip-hop ? although rap has a pretty wide variance & i'm not even sure how fast most current stuff is
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
i realize someone's probably already said as much re: hip-hop tempos but i think seeing this show connected it more closely to the 'dancing' part for me
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
A lot of southern rap from the past few years is in the 70-ish range. "Hard in da Paint" is 71 bpm, for instance.
― fauxmarc loi (The Reverend), Sunday, 13 November 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
deej, are you still saying "cool story, bro"? That shit's on shirts at the mall.
― kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Monday, 14 November 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
this ain't no middle of the mall shit
― tpp, Monday, 14 November 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still unable to process the popularity of the Skrcjzhgx remix of Cinema. The Benny Benassi version is really good.
― blah blah blah, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
― tpp, Monday, November 14, 2011 8:58 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
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Hahaha
Also great ian m. Banks joke upthread
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Fr*d Aga*n is DJ Mr. Peanut Butter— scene-ior frogs (@JubileeDJ) January 28, 2023
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 18 February 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
second album is out now
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Sunday, 19 February 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link
Too much skrillex and I’m too old for it so I’ll have to find a time and mood to listen to this but from what I sampled 3AM sounded good.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 February 2023 05:41 (one year ago) link
I still haven’t heard them completely but I assume this is more the “pop radio” album?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 February 2023 05:44 (one year ago) link
yeah it is
the garagey half is the better half
― ufo, Sunday, 19 February 2023 06:12 (one year ago) link
So the algorithm is of course spying on me and recommended me this youtube of skrillex, diplo and bieber breaking down “where are u now” and it’s very interesting, particularly hearing Skrillex’s process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mY5FNRh0h4
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
second album is very pop, albeit via the skrillex production.i love his garage stuff.also, pretty sure that 'dont get too close' is a take on lil dicky.there is a song in one of the episodes where lil dicky is showing his g/f re autotune/vocals, and its totally the same as this skrillex track.
― mark e, Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link
skrillex / ty dolla sign song always worked really well for me
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link
I don't necessarily agree with the premises and there are a lot of institutional biases baked in here, but I thought this was an interesting read for background on how you end up with a critical consensus and a skrillex-shaped hole in coverage
https://firstfloor.substack.com/p/skrillex-is-green-day-and-this-is
― mh, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
this four-hour b2b set with Fred again.. and Four Tet (shot from behind the decks) is incredibly fun
― more crankable (sic), Saturday, February 18, 2023 11:55 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Thanks for this!
― Indexed, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
that substack article : someone has a massive chip on their shoulder, and hates fun.
for all the chaos re skrillex, he makes grooves that is fun.my eldest lad has always been properly into the dubstep scene, goes to nights that are all about 140 and knows stuff.he saw a skrillex dj set a few years back and loved every minute of it.'it was all massive drops and brostep, but damn, he has skills' is how he put it.
in other news : looks like there will be physical options for the new albums
https://store.warnermusic.com/en/search/?q=quest+for+fire&search-button=&lang=en_US&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skrillex.com%2F
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
that was kind of my take as well
― mh, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
oh, and i realise this is not exactly the same,
but this was the lil dicky thing i was on about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF14wUr4GKE
i.e. the minimal to'ing and fro'ing between them both and the use of autotune ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
crap, i posted a version that has a long speech in the middle that the original tv show didn't.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link
I think you're probably right, same 'playing around with saying stuff through auto-tune over a pretty backing track' vibe.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link
First time Skrillex listener. Trying Quest for Fire rn. These "songs" are awfully short. There are a lot of ideas packed into a few minutes, and the pace can feel frenetic. Would be nice to let some of these tracks breathe a bit.
― Indexed, Thursday, 23 February 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
skrillex is machine tooled for party kids who need something new to happen at least every four measures. tiesto has been doing shorter club tracks with charli xcx, black eyed peas, etc., on the same tip. i used to grumble about this trend because i love getting lost in a groove and because sometimes i need an extra minute or two to find what to play next, but the lack of dead time in these sub-3-minute blasts really helps when you're trying to energize a dance floor.
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 23 February 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
I've had "Butterflies" with Four Tet constantly on repeat since it dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PEe6TP1kCc
― I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Friday, 24 February 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
holy crap - just saw some recent photos of Sonny Moore and he looks way different since he's cut his hair. Looks almost like Shia LeBeouf and it's freakin me out
https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Skrillex-2022-cr-Marilyn-Hue-billboard-1548.jpg
― octobeard, Sunday, 26 February 2023 04:55 (one year ago) link
in the video I posted you can see he still has the same hair, it's just tied back
incidentally I bet the clip mark e mentioned is after 38:00 in this video of the three of them DJing in a bus in Times Square
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 26 February 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
Ah yeah I see that now, but perhaps it's the facial hair and coupled with him tying it back now. Also the eyes are strikingly similar too - and this was obscured by Sonny's previous use of the thick rimmed glasses. Apparently Shia has long hair too now?
https://i.imgur.com/VQGk3lg.jpg
― octobeard, Sunday, 26 February 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
His DJ presence is just so different now with this look than back in the day when his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm and giddiness. I guess I'm just expressing a personal bias against his current look, as it reminds me of someone who is way douchier, which is shitty, so I'll shuffle off now...
― octobeard, Sunday, 26 February 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm
he's 35 years old, grinning, jumping up & down and dancing on top of the decks in his shorts, waving and cheering his collaborators, doing call-and-response moves with the crowd... plenty of boyish enthusiasm on display imo :)
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 26 February 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link
anything over age 30 is decrepit iirc
― mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
This is an excellent album.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/Snz4srT/george-santos2-640x480-49636597.jpg
"I said boy-ish."
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
never thought I would enjoy a skrillex album but... fun so far
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link