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I'm anxious to hear the album, which apparently does not have "House of Jealous Lovers" on it. (way to keep that mystique going, guys!)

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 3 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a little lost on the appeal of "House of Jealous Lovers". I'm trying to find "Olio" now...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 March 2003 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

"Olio" is way better than "House of Jealous Lovers", particularly the acid-inflected dance version.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 March 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

which apparently does not have "House of Jealous Lovers" on it.

if this is true their label can go fuck themselves

I do think however that it is being included on a DFA compilation.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 3 March 2003 22:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan Perry in a likes-the-Cure-soundalike better shockah!

ESOJ, I gathered that the album is closer to "Olio" in nature so they decided not to disrupt its sound. I do hope there's a comp soon, though.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw the Rapture last week & once again they've seemed to make another quantum leap from the previous time I saw them (which would be a mere five months ago, in this case). There seems to be plenty more where the Olio remix and House of Jealous Lovers came from, so here's hoping that the album does indeed come out in April, as has been reported. If you can listen to the last two singles and pinpoint exactly where they're ripping all of their ideas from, then I suppose you can do the same thing for "Screamadelica" (I'll spot you George Michael for free). If you need "Jealous Lovers" on CD and can't wait for the DFA 12" comp, there's a promo CD version (same tracks) that the band's been flogging. Happy hunting...

R. Lim, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Isn't Olio over four years old now?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

RATPURE!

dave q, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I thought the story was that the Ratpure were languishing on SubPop and DFA saved them and produced the HOJL 12", which is why Olio sounds nothing like how they sound now. Or something.

So anyone ever heard the pre-Rapture project the Calculators?

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

HAVE YOU, Aaron W?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I want a copy (CDR even!) of the Insound tour support CD. Anyone want to make a trade for something?

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe, Andy K!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, "Olio" was first on Mirror, and that version is better than the 12"... the love here confuses me, unless yalls talking about the original version.

I have not heard the Calculators, but I'm guessing it's not too great, since Mirror, by and large, blows. But spill it, Aaron!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

If you check the Rapture site on dfarecords.com, you'll see the old news update from August 2002 that says that both "House of Jealous Lovers" and "Olio" will be on the full length when it comes out.. so's you know...

tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Both the original and the remix are great, Yanc3y.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: Calculators. No they're good... in my past life when I ran a label I put out a 10" by them. Sounded a bit like the Faint in a good sort of way. Anyway, drummer split to join keyboardist/guitarist (who had already quit the Calculators by the time I put out the 10") to form the Ratpure. I think there were like 300-400 of those 10"s sold... I have three left.

I like the Morgan Geist remix of HOJL the best (does anyone else???).

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the Morgan Geist remix of HOJL the best (does anyone else???).

Maybe, Aaron W!

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

to quote a great (fictional) T shirt I saw in Chunklet fanzine: "Gang of 4 Is Not A Genre, A$$holes!"

roger adultery, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Ratpure are touring in the next couple months! Yay.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 7 March 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

"Gang of 4 Is Not A Genre, A$$holes!"

ehheh genius!
rapture however r dud

schnell schnell, Friday, 7 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

they stayed at my house once, but weren't very nice.

john fail (cenotaph), Friday, 7 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Ratpure are touring in the next couple months! Yay.

That time is now. revive? reviews?

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

god the new album is so good

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

they were excellent (tight, fun, funny) live and seem like nice guys, too. we all went to the same post-show bar and my friend gave the singer an aaliyah pin (how cute). the final encore was louie louie which was fitting as they came across as a total party band...there are some nice surprises in their set that i don't want to spoil...i'm definitely looking forward to the album now.

disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:12 (twenty-three years ago)

judging by the show i bet jess is OTM.

disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

it's not quite the disco/nu-wave album we (?) had all hoped for - a bit of the old skronk, check the "careering" vocal grab on the title track fer instance - but "i need your love" and the re-recorded "olio" and the last-few songs are total mope-pop-disco genius. also, it DOES have "hojl".

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Grrrrr I want it I want it I want it!


I Need Your Love was on a Jockey Slut free CD, it is fucking great. They are playing here in July.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I just "got" them the other day. I now want said album. It must be great.

Re:The Ratpure. gaz started a thread about this the other day. But I'm not going to tell you how to find it.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

The Rapture recordings I've heard have been pretty lackluster (I haven't heard much, though). I did see them back in December at the Bowery and really enjoyed the show. Of course they followed the completely obnoxious LCD Soundsystem (i think that's the name), so they may have benefitted from the "concurrence to shit" correlation.

Will (will), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sure it's not as much fun as starring in Old School, Will, but both the Rapture and LCD Soundsystem are great...

(and my feelings on the rapture album are well documented)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

the new litmus test for all music = is it better than starring in Old School?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy shit music sucks!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

hey, I'm always willing to give a band another listen. They just rubbed me the wrong way that night. And easy on the name, I've been WF since 1976 (and Pops before that). Damn you Roxbury Bros.!!

Will (will), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Gotcha, Will. Sorry about the name. It's just that J1mmy Fall0n trashed this place a few months ago.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

i love the album so much.

u+k - has anyone got the cat's cradle show from a couple of months ago that's floating around on slsk?? the few tracks i've managed to grab are fantastic...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a feature on the Rapture in this weeks SF Bay Area Guardian (along an article on Richard Thompson, the British folk scene, and that Texas funk comp.... good week)

they're playing next Tuesday the 13th at American Music Hall. i can't wait

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course they had to come to my town the week before finals. Fuck!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 9 May 2003 07:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm digging on Echoes.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Me too! I've been even downloading it with a crap snail dial up connection.

So far I have "I need your love", "heaven", "olio" and "hojl", and almost have "open up your heart".


I didn't expect it to be quite so rocky. Still loving it though. Are there other electronic songs besides Olio and I Need Your Love.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't have the tracklisting with me. Damn it. I love the one with the cowbell solo in the middle. Brilliant.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha! i'm just having my first listen Echoes right now, i'm a sucker for the Gang Of Four/PIL thing, i like it when the singers voice does the crossing betwien Tom Velrain and John Lydon.

rexJr., Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:34 (twenty-three years ago)

when I first heard "House of..." I was annoyed. Im totalling loving it now though. I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I feel like I'm very late to the party, but this new ILK is pleasing me very much and I am hoping it is because it is the right direction for music to go in and not just because I have a developed a nostalgic fondness for the very early 80s music this resembles. Not nostalgia for being there, nostalgia for just not being there (I mean I was listening to music then but I was under 10 so it wasn't in the same way as being a teenager).

Anyway yeah - I saw the Ratpure at Optimo a few weeks ago and it was a blast, and I love the LCD soundsystem mix of Le Tigre that RJG put on a tape for me, and some of the Radio 4 I heard was good. It's all just so invigorating.

Does this ILK have name or not?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

do you mean ilk without capital letters?


It's being called "punk-funk" as far as I can see. I like the Le Tigre remix too. I think you're still early enough to the party in some sense N, if the Rapture are to get as big as I reckon they will.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Punk-funk is fair enough. Yes - ILK=ilk. I just liked the look of it in caps.

What other tracks should I look out for?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I like "Give It Up" by LCD Soundsystem quite alot.


I also am quite into the Playgroup album (called Playgroup) which is slightly older than the Rapture et al. I know some others here aren't into that but it's very cheap at this point and I think worth a purchase. It's a bit more funk in places than punk but it does have a pretty broad smattering of everything.

Best tracks which fit the "punkfunk" thing off that IMO: Overflow, Make It Happen. My favourite Rapture track is "I Need Your Love", also recommended is the DFA mix of Metro Area, I forget which track they've done but it's good, probably easy enough to download somewhere.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan: Download Sister Savior next. You'll love it.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"Killing" is total jeep music

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Agreed, Blount. That's what I said in my DFA thread a while ago...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

"open up your heart" is the stunner -- totally reminiscent of bowie's "five years".

mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

RIP bros, good times.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 9 March 2014 02:31 (twelve years ago)

did see them back in December at the Bowery and really enjoyed the show. Of course they followed the completely obnoxious LCD Soundsystem

ha i was a gd idiot 10 years ago. that was a good show but LCD is way better than these dudes

condo associations are people my friend (will), Sunday, 9 March 2014 04:49 (twelve years ago)

also maybe my first ilx post. wtf am i doing w/ my life

condo associations are people my friend (will), Sunday, 9 March 2014 04:50 (twelve years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.self-titledmag.com/2018/10/03/luke-jenner-interview-the-rapture-meditation-tunnel/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

^^^really good read imho

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:12 (seven years ago)

Isolating highly pure rat spermatogonial stem cells in culture.
Hamra FK1, Chapman KM, Wu Z, Garbers DL.
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Methods are detailed for isolating highly pure populations of spermatogonial stem cells from primary cultures of testis cells prepared from 22- to 24-day-old rats. The procedure is based on the principle that testicular somatic cells bind tightly to plastic and collagen matrices when cultured in serum-containing medium, whereas spermatogonia and spermatocytes do not bind to plastic or collagen when cultured in serum-containing medium. The collagen-non-binding testis cells obtained using these procedures are thus approx. 97% pure spermatogenic cells. Stem spermatogonia are then easily isolated from the purified spermatogenic population during a short incubation step in culture on laminin matrix. The spermatogenic cells that bind to laminin are more than 90% undifferentiated, type A spermatogonia and are greatly enriched in genetically modifiable stem cells that can develop into functional spermatozoa. This method does not require flow cytometry and can also be applied to obtain enriched cultures of mouse spermatogonial stem cells. The isolated spermatogonia provide a highly potent and effective source of stem cells that have been used to initiate in vitro and in vivo culture studies on spermatogenesis.

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:26 (seven years ago)

http://www.self-titledmag.com/2018/10/03/luke-jenner-interview-the-rapture-meditation-tunnel🕸/


That wás a really good read, thanks for the link!

willem, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:58 (seven years ago)

Brilliant read, thx. Never cared that much about Rapture but the codependency childhood story really resonates. Glad to see he made it to the other side

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:42 (seven years ago)

yeah same. loved some of their singles but not really a fan of the albums. that was an awesome interview though. cool to see a musician so into being a Dad. also the stuff re: James Murphy matches up with what I've heard about him.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:51 (seven years ago)

That's a pretty amazing interview.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)

Cool to hear that these guys have reunited since that interview. Pretty much with frogbs that their best moments are excellent, even if the albums are patchy

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:55 (seven years ago)

saw them last night. still one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Like most bands, they should never play a space larger than where I saw them last night. They were amazing, the crowd lost their shit, the various phases/sounds they've played with blended great, and even stuff that I like the least on the albums sounded totally killer live and loud. Amazing energy, great show.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)

can't believe I haven't posted on this thread before?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:42 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

I WAS THERE!

21 years ago at the SFSU Caesar Chavez Student Center next to the dorms, opening with this GO4 cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf8trAog_5Q

might be one of their first shows after the Gravity single?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 17 October 2020 18:38 (five years ago)

the Ratpure at Caesar Chavez Student Center -- or the Rapture at Cesar Chavez Student Center?

I was in grad school there at the time, did not see this.

sarahell, Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

Do not fret, there were not many people there, perhaps one other ilx0r besides myself.

8/4/99 The Dialectic, Casiotone For The Painfully Alone, Subtonix, The Rapture

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 17 October 2020 20:18 (five years ago)

lol some of my friends were in Subtonix (didn't know them at the time tho)

sarahell, Saturday, 17 October 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

Sutbonix

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 18 October 2020 04:21 (five years ago)

four years pass...

https://thequietus.com/news/the-rapture-announce-european-and-north-american-tour-dates/

willem, Wednesday, 9 July 2025 07:12 (eleven months ago)

^ Luke Jenner and no other band members, Portola festival and a San Diego the day after are the only west coast dates in NA

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 07:28 (eleven months ago)


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