Kylie Minogue: Classic or Dud?

that's what i want - hologram pop stars.

YES!

It's amazing how Kylie jumped from my bad books into my good books with such a minute shift in style from the last album.

Both of their music style's is of course not their own, but Britney has this 'thing' about her that makes you want to watch her. She does actually look like what she does in the photos. And when people go on and on, criticising her about wearing skimpy stuff - we have to remember she is only 20 and has to entertain. However, Kylie is nearly 34 and is still prancing around like an old slut with her plastic, pinned up arse and nobody says a word!!! When are the papers gonna see sense and slate her for the old tart she is!!! She is revelling in all of this attention she is getting, and its about time it stopped! OK, Spears is rumoured to have had a boob-job (and propbably has), but when do you see them hanging out of her top, like the goofy- toothed dwarfs??? Those pics from her Fever tour are ridiculous. Her boobs are pushed up sooooooo much, you can see the plastic popping out of the flesh!!! And have you noticed that there's not a smile from the pop- pixie? She is just looking down on herself, revelling in her plasticness. I dont know, I think the country has been brainwashed. It was that song 'Cant get you out of my head' that done it. It must have had some kind of subliminal message saying "MEN: You will all adore Kylie - she is the perfect image of woman; and WOMEN: You will all not care that your men fantasise about Kylie every night in her hotpants, you must love her and want to be her".

Well, I think I must have been one of the few that escaped her propaganda tactics!

Is there anybody else out there??????????????????

Thank god she got rid of the bad perm and reinvented herself....

agree on that last point too.

http://www.cstrecords.com/img/godspeed/mapofevilinvert.jpg

To tell you the truth I put on Fever a ot more than say, Rooty or Under Construction.

Fever is inconsistent. Light Years is all bliss, except that horrid ballad thing in the middle. You skip that obv.

I mean, is her explosive commercial success of 2 years ago now eclipsed?

I finally downloaded it yesterday and I'm obsessed with it now.
It's even better than I remembered - that synth part, that bassline, the whispered backing vocals in the chorus...holy shit, it's the best song ever.

Any thoughts on 'Ultimate Kylie'? Mine are that the first disc is best used as a frisbee, but that the second is really pretty great. I'm surprised by how many of these I like. I can even cope with the Robbie duet and 'Spinning Around' in retrospect.

Otherwise, quite good.

The only Kylie thing I bought was "Some kind of bliss" the nice 7" single. It's not on this.

I am thinking 'I believe in you' might be my favourite single of the year. This is odd, really.

I also liked his observations about pop music & her place in it, getting her to embrace that part of herself & stop trying to be “indie” etc

Also the way he described the Bad Seeds as a group of guys in permanently bad moods or whatever was v funny

I actually had no idea about Locomotion being recorded and being massive first! Here it was just the second SAW single off the album (as far as I knew as a kid, ha)

Yeah that threw me too, "I Should Be So Lucky" is what I remember from her first here.

It was her first single with Mushroom, released as “Locomotion” in Australia in 1987; and then remixed by SAW when she signed with London label PWL & re-released as “Loco-Motion” in 1988 in UK, US, Canada etc

You see, Waterman needed to add the dash to show the level of his creative contribution.

I Should Be So Lucky was her first single in UK & US but for little me back home in Australia it was her second single :) Confusing!

Wikipedia has a bit more insight on the Locomotion/Loco-motion rename & re-recording shenanigans

“…The producers decided to totally re-record Minogue's version of the song, with Pete Waterman slating her original Australian recording, which he claimed was poorly produced.[52] Original producer Mike Duffy instead blamed the decision to re-record on Waterman's alleged wish to claim the prestige and royalties that looked set to roll in from the track's looming placement of the soundtrack of the 1988 film Arthur 2: On the Rocks, starring Dudley Moore and Liza Minnelli.[52]”

LOL
ladies and gentlemen, 1988

So about that ahem “Prestige & royalties”

oh I had no idea about that, I do remember the OG locomotion being a hit in Aus and KM being very winning in the video clip

keen to compare the two versions now to see how SAW managed to elevate it into a masterpiece

i watched the whole thing last night, and it was vv entertaining. Kylie is just a very likable person, one can see how she melted the stone heart of Nick Cave (nice edit on him saying he wasn't a fan or anything, cut to a vintage photo of him sitting next to a Kylie branded fanny pack or whatever.)

it was curious how they barely touched on the Light Years/Fever one-two punch, and didn't give any mention whatsoever to Body Language through Disco, aside from hearing bits of several songs here and there. They really did a yada yada yada all the way from CGYOOMH to Padam Padam.

The big revelation at the end wasn't a surprise, since I heard about it ahead of time, but it was vv moving, and def gives "Story" such a huge clout now.

cut to a vintage photo of him sitting next to a Kylie branded fanny pack or whatever

From the Live Seeds photos IIRC, referring to the live album released from the Henry's Dream tour.

They really did a yada yada yada all the way from CGYOOMH to Padam Padam.

Well I think it's no accident that her personal life during that time was similarly yada'd aside of course from the cancer bout. Did they even mention that one French guy's name? I think it was just a few shots of them on his motorbike.

French guy = Oliver Martinez who I think is maybe namechecked once? And she’s dated or been connected w at least other 4 dudes since then.

Honestly I’m down with the show’s “no one of note since Michael tbh” edit

All of the recent dudes are v handsome so she def still has good taste seemingly

Yeah given the one comment about how she's still searching for someone like Michael to some kind of degree I like the idea that they just simply failed to meet the necessary level, whatever their other qualities. Which, why wouldn't that be the case, she's Kylie, they are not.

Exactly!

I kind of like how she has that Madonna-esque quality in that regard

it was curious how they barely touched on the Light Years/Fever one-two punch, and didn't give any mention whatsoever to Body Language through Disco, aside from hearing bits of several songs here and there. They really did a yada yada yada all the way from CGYOOMH to Padam Padam.

Yes, this is what I mean - these were all HUGE and enduring hits so a bit of music nerdery might have been good - but perhaps that's been done before and I just haven't seen it...

i do think overall this was good but it does suffer a bit from being a documentary which has clearly been made by folks raised on reality TV. there's not much that's allowed to breathe or linger, except for when Kylie pauses for a moment at her house to listen to the quiet.

i would also have really enjoyed hearing a bit more about the music over the last twenty plus years, considering the sheer quality of the work if nothing else. X being a big comeback, Aphrodite maybe being her best, Disco being a pandemic album she had a big hand in producing herself at home, let alone Tension.

Yeah I’d def love a more music-focused, nerdier documentary too

A perfect little bonus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAerJav0xQw