<i>this is more punk than punk then back to punk then past it again and then back to it.</i>
I love how SY has made fans think this is what's going on -- that it's some nod/wink Warholian punk thing, when in fact they've been marketing whores for years now. No diff than all the mindless commercials on television.
-- QuantumNoise, Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:06 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
you are an idiot.
― andi, Saturday, 16 June 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, that's what it looks like, celebrity picks and one new tune: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/43669-starbucks-to-release-sonic-youth-celebrity-compilation (xpost)
I hope the new song is good! I like the idea of them doing a one-off song between albums that won't be some half-assed instrumental thing for an indie compilation. Also depending on what celebrities they ask, the song choice could be pretty interesting.
― Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 16 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)
oh well fuck me then, bring it on starbuck youth
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
-- andi, Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:30 PM
Putting aside the fact that QuantumNoise is picking on you, do you think he's wrong?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 June 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)
I drink drip coffee only, black, a lot of it, and Starbucks is above average.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)
I like the idea of them doing a one-off song between albums that won't be some half-assed instrumental thing for an indie compilation.
covers aside, I can't think of a time SY has ever used their whole ass for a comp track.
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)
Thurston's "oh yeah we gotta get around to that" tone doesn't promise much either.
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)
She knows how to make foam for me She know how to make foam Starbucks-power, Starbucks-power, Starbucks-power Over Me
― dlp9001, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
yes! very much so! really. i haven't played sy in years, but shit like this just reminds me why i kind of love 'em. it's just a laugh. get it or don't (which is fine, if you don't). just don't laugh at someone for laughing.
― andi, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)
Or, with record/CD stores closing with alarming regularity, SY might just be exploring another possible venue for selling their product.
― Binjominia, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)
And I can't blame any band for that.
I wonder if they've heard of the internet.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)
I'm sure they have.
― Binjominia, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)
You're suggesting that bands looking for alternatives limit themselves to Internet retailers?
― Binjominia, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)
i wonder if they've heard of making a living for years now, off of what they've been doing.
― andi, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:07 (eighteen years ago)
i've always wondered if the sonic youth apologists (contorting themselves into explaining how all these commercial endeavors are, um, "punk") are the same people who think a band like the Who are hopeless corporate sellouts for doing essentially the same things.
― Lawrence the Looter, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:05 (eighteen years ago)
-- dlp9001, Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
Please stop it.
― Mr. Que, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.moviesoundscentral.com/sounds/vanilla_sky/cum.wav
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)
What was jaw-dropping to me was just that Starbucks would have seen enough commercial potential to be interested in doing this.
― Sundar, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)
Sundar making the only sense on this thread so far.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)
Starbucks, above average?? Are you fucking kidding me? Did you see the study in Consumer Reports magazine where they tested four different coffees from Starbucks, McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts and Burger King? It turned out McDonald's was the best(?!) and Starbucks was the WORST of the four -- and come on, they are the ONE ACTUAL COFFEE SHOP in the study!
Seriously Mr Rich@rdson, I shit you not: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003553322_webcoffeetest02.html
― stephen, Sunday, 17 June 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)
it's just coffee, dude, and it looks like you should drink less of it
― river wolf, Sunday, 17 June 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)
larf
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)
haha, starbucks sucks and CR is like guaranteed non-LCD reliable. what else do you get wrong?
anyway, this is awesome, in no small part because of how many people it will piss off.
― gabbneb, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)
LCD reliable?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)
he means Consumer Reports sucks too
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)
it's not necessarily that the fact that sonic youth are DOING it pisses me off.
a conversation: STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE A sentimentalist, pimpled. JOHNSON BRADDOCK A man with a stroller, a goatee, a brownstone.
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: So, that was non-fat soy caramel green tea mochalatacino frappe? JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Yeah. Hey, what is this? STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: This is from Starbucks' newest CD, by Sonic Youth, called "Schizophrenia is Taking Me Home." I think this is "Catholic Block," picked by Jeff Tweedy. It's only 10 dollars with any drink purchase. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Huh. STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: I think it's pretty good. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Well, let me take that too then. STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: Great. (purchase is made with Gold card, and JB leaves) STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: *sighs* Kill me.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)
i mean, it's just unfathomable to me that this could actually work.
Consumer reports does suck too. What is "LCD reliable" tho.
xpost table, I'm annoyed by the fact that drunks will bring this up with me for the nest 18 months.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
i mean, it is a nice big joke. if i were a starbucks employee and these people walked in, i'd think, "great, now we're getting acid casualties coming in"
http://blogs.walkerart.org/offcenter/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/sy.jpg
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)
three acid casualties and an elf on heroin
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)
NON lowest common denominator reliable? He was making fun of dude for citing CR.
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, that would make sense.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)
When did Renaldo turn into Stuart Smalley?
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 17 June 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)
Sounds like I need to try that McDonald's premium coffee! But where does it say Starbucks came in last in that CP test? If Burger King's "tasted more like hot water" drink scored higher than Starbucks' "strong, but burnt and bitter," I think we have different ideas about what makes good coffee.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 17 June 2007 05:01 (eighteen years ago)
"three acid casualties and an elf on heroin"
Could be the best SY album title this century!
― Soukesian, Sunday, 17 June 2007 08:45 (eighteen years ago)
thurston goldblum
― gabbneb, Sunday, 17 June 2007 08:49 (eighteen years ago)
OTM.
I'm not pissed that SY are corporate shills. I don't care, really. If Kim Gordon wants to model for companies that reportedly use sweatshop labor (cough: Calvin Klein), so be it. I just tire of how the shilling is framed as something other than it is -- that I don't "get it," if I call it commercialism. There is nothing to get. They're not art performance adbusting punks having an ironic laugh on corporate America. They are shills for corporate America plain and simple. So am I to a certain extent, but if somebody calls me out on it, I say, "You're right." I don't say, "Oh, you don't get the joke, man. I'm punking the system from the inside."
― QuantumNoise, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)
the table is the table OTM.
― 2for25, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE A sentimentalist, pimpled. JOHNSON BRADDOCK A man with a stroller, a goatee, a brownstone.
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: So, that was non-fat soy caramel green tea mochalatacino frappe? JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Yeah. Hey, what is this? STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: This is from Starbucks' newest CD, by Sonic Youth, called "Schizophrenia is Taking Me Home." I think this is "Catholic Block," picked by Jeff Tweedy. It's only 10 dollars with any drink purchase. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Huh.
Why does this bother you so much? Goateed stroller dude is probably just as likely to have bought Daydream Nation when it came out as to not have heard of Sonic Youth, and my guess is you're a younger guy who wasn't old enough to be into SY at the time. Why do you have any more right to it than he does?
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)
speaking of pimping for $:
http://www.richardkern.com
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)
Table, I am sooooooooo confused as to why this thread even exists.
well, i haven't paid SY any attention since Sonic Nurse, so the fact that they'd be okay with doing something for Starbucks (right on paul mccartney's back, mind you) kind of made me go, "whuh?"
There's only been one album since Sonic Nurse. And was that album so avant-garde and/or anti-corporate (it was released on DGC after all) that their link to a(nother) corporation should be so surprising?
And while I dug your little playlet, you're assuming that Starbucks employees are forced to say they like ANY album in the store as opposed to merely pushing an album, two very different things. And for what it's worth, no Starbucks employee has ever pushed a CD on me nor ever made any comment to me about any of the music in the store.
You're also assuming that a Starbucks employee would automatically hate this CD.
Love,
Tim Horton
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)
you're misunderstanding. i have no more right to it than he does, it's just that any conversation of that sort-- whether it be about Paul McCartney or Sonic Youth-- makes my stomach churn.
That and yes, I am a younger guy, who happened to buy my first SY record when I was nine years old. Granted, that was in 1993, but still-- they were as much a band of my youth as any older dude's.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)
And yo - a Jeff Tweedy "Catholic Block" could absolutely work.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)
KJB-- perhaps you should ask yourself why threads such as "5th Best VU Album" exist.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
man what a sell-out. next thing they'll be signing to a major label.
― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)
As far as I can tell, this is one of the dumbest threads ever.
― HI DERE, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)
man, table, what is the big deal? who cares? why are you getting all worked up about this?
― Mr. Que, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)
their shilling in and of itself doesn't bother me; but if pete townshend -- someone who's sold many of his songs for use in ads -- narrated a documentary on the corporatization and commodification of music, you'd think, wtf?! and yet: http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/MoneyForNothing
― Lawrence the Looter, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)
Glad this thread exists, if only to remind youngsers that Sonic Youth's primary demographic these days probably is stroller pushing homeowners. I tried the goatee back in the 90's, but it didn't work out.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)
Ben Weasel to thread
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)
(full disclosure: i own both the Psychic Hearts LP and a similar Ralph Lauren Polo dress shirt.)
― stephen, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
JAW ON THE FLOOR
― deej, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
~~jaw on the floor lookin boy~~
― J0rdan S., Friday, 23 May 2008 21:51 (eighteen years ago)
yes deej, we noticed, thanks for continuing to point it out
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)
ts: repeating lol thread title vs. tedious debate about 'sellouts' and starbux
― deej, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)
horrible, awful, gay, jaw, on, the, floor
― J0rdan S., Friday, 23 May 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)
aaaaaaaaaanyway who gives a shit if they are selling via starbucks, let them get money they deserve it
― J0rdan S., Friday, 23 May 2008 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
and if youre all up in arms psychoanalyzing the cover you need to take a step back for a sec
― J0rdan S., Friday, 23 May 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)
Why are you two douchebags posting on this thread if you don't care so much again?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:59 (eighteen years ago)
cuz i thought the shock and horror in the op was lol ill leave it be now tho, be cool
― deej, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:00 (eighteen years ago)
genuine lols! I wrote to MRR arguing with that letter of his!
― sleeve, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:00 (eighteen years ago)
But I like talking about the cover!
― cherry blossom, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
Reading the Weasel scribe is the gem of owner the Master Dik 12"
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)
owning
Hello, just popped in to say: the funniest comment so far has to be
"What do you mean, Starbucks make above average coffee, didn't you see the survey/test panel results?"
― Mark G, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
I take it they never got round to recording that 'special' track for this, anyroad.
um, they did. It's the last track on the CD.
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
oh yeah.
My only objection is that the CDs Starbucks sell aren't exactly 'discount', even though they look cheap.
― Mark G, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
HI I AM CORPORATE DRONE I NEBER HERD OF SONIC YOUTH WATS DAT IS IT CLASSIC GENIUS LIKE RAY CHARLES OOH PRETTY PICSHURE
cracked me up
I am excited to buy this. At the Starbucks I stopped at tonight for a delicious iced latte, they had a Doors greatest hits CD and a James Brown greatest hits CD for sale by the register.
― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)