The Police: Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy

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One of my favorite Ozzy quotes: When asked how he thinks his life has turned out so far, Ozzy (pouring some sugar into his tea) goes "Could be worse. I could be Sting."

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'all're still too mad at Sting to acknowledge how fuckingBAD-ASS the Police were

No, we're mad at Sting because the Police used to be so "BAD-ASS", considering how fucking indisputably CRAP he is now.

Don't tell me how, why, when and what I'm mad at, godfuckingdammitalltohell!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. You ARE mad!

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the first response on this thread = OTM

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
Don't really know or like the Police very much, so when Truth Hits Everybody came up on shuffle, I was like, hmm, should probably skip it. But then I didn't and it rewarded me by being great. So search Truth Hits Everybody.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Wohoho!

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 13 October 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

OK, now I'm curious: can ANYONE vouch for "Born in the Fifties"? About the only good thing I can think to say about it is that it's fun to mishear it as "We were bored, boring and filthy," but that's not much. It's tedious, forced, uninsightful, and wracked with bad, bad, bad lyrics. "WHEN THE BEATLES CAME!!!!" Yeah whatever. Defend the indefensible, anyone?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 October 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

no, it's terrible - but I am awaiting the Police revival. I think they've missed their chance to be retro-cool, more likely they will one day be retro-kitsch, like lounge music from the 60s. certain people will think they're underrated geniuses, everyone else will wonder what the fuss is about

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 14 October 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

"Born in the Fifties" is awesome and hilarious if you read it as Sting (Born: 1951) trying to present his credentials as a Vital Punk Dude birthed in the closing seconds of 1959, as if he wasn't an ancient deputy headmaster or something.

For all that, the Police were classic!

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, how fantastic is this?

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

o.g version of "don't stand so close" to me and "voices inside my head" are two of my favorite songs ever. and yes, stewart copeland is magical.

buboclot, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

That ain't nothin' new. Copeland was never afraid to use studio technology to build drum tracks. "Every Breath You Take" was half live, half programmed - the kick & snare were Linn Drum, with Copeland overdubbing the high-hat & cymbals seperately.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh god. I can't STAND "Born In the Fifties". Not only is the song itself awful, but the way he SINGS it is just...not suited to his strengths as a vocalist at all. Pushes too hard.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

from the above Copeland interview,
Copeland has of late also probed The Police catalog with what he has dubbed "derangements." "They are Police tracks lobotomized to concoct new recordings," he explains. Mixing live and studio versions, instrumental tracks of an original with the vocals from a later version, the jam from mid-"Roxanne" with the lyrics to "So Lonely," and so on, these derangements are expected to be heard as bonus tracks on new reissues

auto mash-up !

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

I was *really* into Ghost in the Machine when I was a kid. The cover was awesome.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

It took me forever to realize that the cover art was meant to represent human faces. (Mind you I had the same reaction to the Glider EP.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag. Since I first heard the song, it's been among my 3 favorite Police tracks. I like the chorus of "Born In The Fifties," and I've never once considered it to be bad, although I pretty much always skip it just because I'd rather get to the better songs.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

They dropped the bomb on us
While we made love on the BEACH
We were the class they couldn't TEACH
Cuz we knew BET-TAH

I thought that song was great when I was about 11, even though I had no idea what he was going on about. By the time I was old enough to realize how silly it was my fondness for it was firmly entrenched. Totally stupid, but not a bad hook. As fake as fake-punk got.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

the lyrical whatever is horrifyingly embarrassing but the police had a great overall sound, all those thin sharp totally un-analog recordings w/o being too baroque or over-orchestrated. come to think their records sound almost exactly like zz top from the same era but with the guitars played a little different.

geoff (gcannon), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag.

Because it's a hopelessly pretentious sack of tepid, runny DUNG wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably, whilst coming up with some of the worst couplets of his already pock-marked career. It's AWFUL!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm one of those who never took their lyrics too seriously I guess.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably

Very interesting.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Is doom nigh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

We've all got our tickets!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that Sting:

Then after performing the works of Elizabethan lute master John Dowland for US TV last weekend he was asked about the rumours.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

He grumpily retaliated by saying that the interviewer must be mixing him up with the fleetwood mac.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

But, will they play "I Burn for You"?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

COMPLETELY CLASSIC!

I'm listening to "Bring On The Night" right now and I'm kinda freaking out about it.

I also just listened to "Born In The 50's." My God.

"My mother cried
When president Kennedy died
She said it was the communists
But I knew better"

AGHHHHHHH!

Davey D (Dave Depper), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

OMG! Sting says they'll do all lute versions of the Police songs on the reunion tour!

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

It begins.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Fear it.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Annie Lennox should join'em too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

If there is a god, please let them start the show with 'Mother'.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Sting vs. Miles

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Floridian_20/PoliceSynch.jpg

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

Just about the best mother fucking thing from 1983. Beware. I don't care if John D. jumps on my ass. I really don't care. I'll willingly take a beating for this record.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

There's a little black spot on the sun today.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

something i remember: sitting in 8th grade art class and telling john crichton (who wasn't a particular friend of mine, just the kid sitting next to me) that synchronicity was coming out the next day. he looked at me and said "so what?" i said something like the police were the best band in the world and he just kind of shook his head.

in retrospect i think it's the least of the police, but that's a relative measure and i'll defend most of it on one ground or another.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

(but it's not the best thing from '83, even if i thought so then)

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

KING OF PAIN

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

Listen to the fucking BASS on that!

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

"Synchronicity I" is pretty underrated.. and I still love "Oh My God" and "Tea In The Sahara."

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

and then there's 'mother'

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

yup..

"Mother" adds character. Police albums aren't complete without at least 1 huge WTF moment.

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

And I like that "Mother" is in 7/8.

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

many miles away
there's a shadow on the door
of a cottage on the shore
of a dark
scottish lake
many miles away

kamerad, Sunday, 10 August 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

oh scottish monster please listen
don't devour me

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

I WILL LISTEN HARD TO YOUR TUITION

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

ska horseshit is horseshit

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

four years pass...

I know they get no respect these days but I still feel - walking on the moon - if it comes on in public. I love the double snare hit near the end and the subsequent hi hat solo of sorts

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 20:22 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

So I was watching the Fire Aid thingy and in "Message in a Bottle" the guitar player* interpolates the plinky bit from "Spirits in the Material World."

Just a tiny quote, a dozen notes, and you have to be such a Policehead to even recognize it and yet there it is.

* = Dominic Miller, apparently

the real slim pickens (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 February 2025 14:46 (one year ago)

I watched a whole video of one of their more pompous shows yesterday, and: destroy. I just don't get any enjoyment out of their music. They're enormously individually talented, granted! I wish they'd done something else altogether, it grates on me terribly.

Matt Riedl (veal), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 17:50 (one year ago)

I'm really enjoying this. jam after jam! I haven't listened to them in forever. Feel like they deserved a Stop Making Sense of their own. This was the show on VHS back then, right? Synchronicity Tour or bust for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSt06JAk0A

scott seward, Friday, 14 February 2025 01:25 (one year ago)

i like the opening act list for that tour. Talking Heads! Ministry! R.E.M.! my heroes Kissing The Pink!

Joan Jett & The Blackhearts (Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, New York City, Philadelphia, Indianapolis)
A Flock of Seagulls (Chicago, Rochester, Foxborough, Tallahassee)
The Fixx (Fresno, Chicago, Toronto, Rochester, Foxborough, Lexington, Knoxville, Miami, Tacoma, Inglewood, Atlanta, Orlando)
Ministry (Chicago, Minneapolis)
Stevie Ray Vaughan (Montreal, Honolulu)
Peter Tosh (Montreal, Toronto)
Talking Heads (Montreal)
Blue Peter (Toronto)
King Sunny Adé (Toronto)
James Brown (Toronto)
R.E.M. (Hartford, New York City, Norfolk, Philadelphia, Landover)
Madness (Philadelphia, San Diego, Phoenix)
Thompson Twins (Fresno, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Phoenix, Tacoma, Inglewood)
Oingo Boingo (San Diego, Fresno, Oakland)
The Animals (Orlando, Miami)
UB40 (Denver, Kansas City, Dallas, Houston, Austin, Oklahoma City, Champaign)
Passionate Friends (St Austell, Birmingham)
Bryan Adams (Sydney, Melbourne, Honolulu)
Australian Crawl (Melbourne)
Sunnyboys (Sydney, Melbourne)
Kids in the Kitchen (Melbourne)
Split Enz (Richfield, OH)
Berlin (Inglewood, CA)
Re-Flex (Syracuse, Providence, Memphis, Williamsburg, Buffalo, Carbondale, Cincinnati, Greensboro)
Kissing the Pink (Baton Rouge, Biloxi)
China Crisis (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Blackpool)

scott seward, Friday, 14 February 2025 01:28 (one year ago)

They made $418,990 for their two nights in Atlanta.

scott seward, Friday, 14 February 2025 01:32 (one year ago)

holy crap the strobing in spirits in the material world might kill you! its pretty unwatchable on my t.v. maybe if i was wearing sunglasses. i blame godley & creme.

scott seward, Friday, 14 February 2025 01:51 (one year ago)

I want an alternate cut with just shots of the audience

sawdust lagoon, Friday, 14 February 2025 07:51 (one year ago)

Kinda cool seeing the Animals in that list. I guess Eric Burdon was an early Newcastle hero of Sting. Sting shows up as a talking head in the BBC documentary on Burdon from a couple years ago.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 14 February 2025 14:10 (one year ago)

There’s a closer connection than that - Andy was actually in the Animals for a short while

Clock DVLA (NickB), Friday, 14 February 2025 14:18 (one year ago)

For a brief time in 1968, he was a member of the Animals, then known as Eric Burdon and the Animals, with whom he recorded one album, Love Is. The album features a recording of Traffic's "Coloured Rain", which includes a 4 minute and 15 second guitar solo by Summers. The LP also included a reworked version of Dantalian's Chariot's sole single "Madman Running Through the Fields".

Clock DVLA (NickB), Friday, 14 February 2025 14:18 (one year ago)

I want an alternate cut with just shots of the audience

I feel like something like this exists! From the era of DVDs with alternate angles.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 February 2025 14:30 (one year ago)

Aha!

The Police's Synchronicity Concert video, previously only available on VHS has now been released on DVD. It was first released on DVD in Europe and in other regions back in September while the American release was delayed.

The original VHS tape was released in September 1984 and had 15 songs filmed and recorded from two soldout shows at the Omni Arena in Atlanta Georgia on November 2nd and 3rd, 1983.

The DVD has better sound and film quality, plus four songs not on the original VHS tape have been added. Synchronicity II, Roxanne, Invisible Sun, and Don't Stand So Close To Me have been included as extra songs and can each be viewed from four different camera angles(only two for Roxanne). The only song not included from the shows appears to be "Murder By Numbers".

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 February 2025 14:31 (one year ago)

seriously, watch your eyes when spirits in the material world comes on. that hurt!

scott seward, Friday, 14 February 2025 15:08 (one year ago)

Just happened to be reading Peter Ames Carlin's biography The Name of This Band Is R.E.M and, well.

I hadn't known about the role played by the middle Copeland brother in getting R.E.M. their slot opening for the Police when they were very very new.

Maybe everyone here already knew this but I did not: Peter Buck had worked for Ian Copeland in a minor clerical capacity in pre-Athens days.

Leprecan't even (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 14 February 2025 15:17 (one year ago)

Peter Tosh (Montreal, Toronto)

Interesting how a reggae act might set up the headliner in a different way than many of the others on the list.

braunschweiger winter (Eazy), Friday, 14 February 2025 15:41 (one year ago)

That 1983 Toronto show was the last in a series of three yearly summer shows they played in the Toronto area, called "Police Picnics". They were more like festivals than opener/headline shows, as you can see by the six acts on the bill, which might change the dynamic between them somewhat.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 14 February 2025 15:49 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Had a sentimental listen to the first side of Regatta De Blanc this morning (first record I bought, still got my name on the back from where I took it to school so that we could dance on stage to Walking On The Moon during school assembly). Funny the details that jump out now I’ve got old man ears instead of being like 9 years old. Definitely think that a lot of my later musical likes were because of the little things here that became so embedded in my brain, albeit subconsciously…

- that loooong moment of whining guitar feedback and drums on Bring On The Night, such a cool moment when the bass comes back in
- the last minute of the song Regatta De Blanc where it’s just pure motorik music, though admittedly it’s more Hawkwind than Neu
- the gnarly blues guitar solo in It’s Alright For You, very When The Levee Breaks. Why did I never notice that before? Is Andy playing with a slide? And I never really cared for this song but even in their bad songs they sometimes pull out a gorgeous coda - this one sounds just like Echo Beach to me
- how weird Deathwish? dubby raga rock, but this also has sections of the motorik thing too

Clock DVLA (NickB), Saturday, 1 March 2025 09:15 (one year ago)

Deathwish in the fading light
Hitler running through the night

Clock DVLA (NickB), Saturday, 1 March 2025 09:17 (one year ago)

It was among the dozen or so records my slightly cooler older sister had.

Regatta de Blanc
My Aim Is True
Punch the Clock
Cool Places
English Settlement
A Flock of Seagulls
Blinded by Science
Night and Day

All of them still relevant for me, 40 years on

at your swervice (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 March 2025 11:31 (one year ago)


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