why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

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The really technical part of "Heart of the Sunrise" is killer.

Wobbly, if you're out there, tell your Jon Anderson at NAMM story . . .

best

Drew

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

actually I'm all tulled out tonight.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)


Was this NAMM in Anaheim in like 96? At one of those shows I heard rumors that Jon Anderson was there and I was pissed that I never saw him. But for all I know he goes to all of them...

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay I guess he's not so here's his story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/entertainment/0208/gallery.yes/yes-atl-10.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god, Drew -- that story is amazing! I think I would die on the spot. Such a voice.

What is NAMM, anyway?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The biggest US musical instrument trade fair.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't is just late at night in the US the Brits arrive, and drive the whole thing stupid?

___ (___), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
REVIVE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks Eisbar, I loved this thread.

I just watched some of that DVD "The Future Is Wild", the cheezy computer animated forecast of what freakish species will dominate this planet in 200 million years. It was very Yessed out too, CGI supercontinent-formation footage and giant global oceans (topographic tales of .. .)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

um, i was just listening to the following yessed out record:

http://stat.discogs.com/R/262506-1103102672.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

does not matter!

Olias of Sunhillow Critical Edition, with commentary track guest starring the 'scientists' from The Future Is Wild

sharkopath (Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

maybe a little like the trevor horn yes (or maybe i just wish it sounded more like trevor horn yes).

it's basically arp-heavy metronomic 1978 eurosynth cheese.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

This should have said "North America" to include sundar.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i still have yet to consciously hear a yes song

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

not purposefully or anything, i mean, i'd like to hear a yessong i guess

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh, side A of 'close to the edge' has really been doing it for me lately. i love all those drum fills that go right through the first ONE beat and splash back in somewhere in the middle of the bar. anothe reason of why i like it so much is because it kind of reminds of this local band here called form of rocket that does similar type things (fast, frenetic parts / churning, odd time signatures / that drum fill thing)

6335, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

I always see a Dean landscape, or some Art Nouveau P. Craig Russell planet landscape whenever I listen to Yes. Except for Yes mach-90125 and onward.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, my posts on this thread from last week got deleted :(

I guess the only interesting thing in them was that apparently Eddie Jobson was in the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video. They tried to edit him out when he ended up not being in the band, but couldn't do it completely. The edits are one reason why the "plot" is so hard to follow.

wetmink (wetmink), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it got swallowed up in the great 2004 ILM purgee/eraXor, but here's the link to the long-form video for "owner of a lonely heart," on the director's webpage.

and yes, there ARE maggots on the dude's eyes.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I get up! I get down...

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 27 December 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
ok, last lame-o thread revival for the night ... because I am going to bed.

BUT! just guess what my classic rock station is playing right now on their so-called DEEP CUT weekedn at this ungodly hour ...

yup, STARSHIP TROOPER!!

good god what a tune.

and i'm out

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
OK, i just got tormato. and yes, it IS as bad as its reputation. e.g., "arriving ufo" is one of the GAYEST, TWEEIST songs EVAH -- did someone slip some angel dust in rick wakeman's beer, or what?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

and where IS drew daniel these days, anyway?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Tormato is rough going. But you need to hear the demos Yes made with Roy Thomas Baker right before Anderson & Wakeman quit. Other than "Run Through The Light" they make Tormato sound positively macho.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Hey dudes, Relayer is only three bucks on itunes.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

what a fucking awesome thread.

I found my mint LP copy of Relayer for a dollar in a used bin.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hipsters!

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 20 January 2007 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

"Hi, I'm Patrick Moraz, cuz I get More Ass. I'm a continental type with really high hair. I hope you enjoy my noodly jazz prog."

http://www.drjazz.ch/album/bilder/Moraz30.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 20 January 2007 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

damn, and i'm not even close to being drunk tonight!!

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/Eisbaer29/be70040c-9265-47c2-ab7b-0dc6abe418a.jpg

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'm yessed out on poppy pod tea and I just played guitar for an hour. Yes!

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:41 (eighteen years ago)

karaoke, yes-style!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwoE9r11a-c

gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgH7Oec__s

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing succeeds like excess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF1-OEZYBE

Watching Bruford in that clip makes me think of the story (perhaps apocryphal) of the Genesis tour he was on when he'd get bored and start playing different beats just to screw things up.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

DIG IT! (the "it" being really bad stock footage, apparently)

as much shit as tormato gets, i do like squire's bass sound on that
and wtf with wakeman's synths? the birotron - cheesy to the max
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gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

LOL cheesy late 70s video effects -- also, it reminds me of the "i want candy" video.

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

"don't kill the whale" is actually an OK song, maybe the best thing on tormato. and the really painful wakeman synths are in the beginning of "arriving UFO" (maybe the worst yes song of all time?)

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

The Birotron was an ill-fated tape replay keyboard conceived by Dave Biro of Yalesville, Connecticut, USA, and funded by Rick Wakeman of the progressive-rock group Yes in the late 1970s.

The Birotron was a keyboard instrument that used 8-track cartridge tapes to play sounds whenever a key was pressed on the keyboard. It is similar in concept to the Chamberlin and Mellotron, and was a forerunner of digital sampling. Keyboards like the Mellotron and Birotron were mainly used for strings, choirs, brass, and flutes; sounds not easily reproduced on the synthesizers of that era. The major innovation of the Birotron was that it stored its sounds using 8-track tape loops, which allowed it to play the sounds indefinitely, a great improvement from the 8-second limit of the Mellotron.

History
Dave Biro invented this instrument and showed it to Rick Wakeman, who was so impressed by the idea that he offerred to fund its manufacture. It was developed by Birotronics, Ltd which was one of Wakeman's Complex 7 businesses. The Packhorse road case company was under this umbrella as well. Birotronics apparently made a very limited number of these instruments (David Biro says only 17 were made, including the original and 4 prototypes, while Rick Wakeman claims 35.) 4 of those were owned by Rick Wakeman, who noted in an interview in 1999 that 2 were stolen and 2 were damaged beyond repair. Only 5 or 6 Birotrons are accounted for today.

Two major factors led to the Birotron's demise. The most direct cause was a lack of necessary and consistent funding. The Birotron also suffered from poor timing, being introduced very shortly before the arrival of the digital sampling technology (such as the Fairlight_CMI) which would render it obsolete.

gershy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

OOooooh the band Yes... I thought you meant high.

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

Squire on "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5KQIaHFma4

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

The world of Yes tribute bands on YouTube is very strange, but I gotta give them points for trying...

The packs of Marlboros in the foreground totally makes this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lvjkG5EgFxA

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:34 (eighteen years ago)

OOooooh the band Yes... I thought you meant high.

-- trashthumb, Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:29 AM

OMG I AM YESSED OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A COON'S AGE

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 08:53 (eighteen years ago)

A raccoon killed my pet rabbit. It grabbed the thing through the cage, and smashed it again and again through the rails, and a lot of its body that the raccoon couldn't get dropped down into the plastic tub that captured its feces. So be careful what you say BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, or you might totally ruin my yes sesh..

trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Utterly ridiculous, but Howe really kills it here.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 08:25 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

OMFG. "Awaken" sounding transcendent right now really LOUD after a night of bourbon & Guiness. On headphones, mind.

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 09:21 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

interesting that they covered "america" -- the beginning of "el condor pasa" sounds a lot like the beginning of "roundabout"

kamerad, Saturday, 16 January 2010 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

my wife and I were playing Yessongs after we got home from a show last night around 2 A.M. and I was telling her about this thread.

sleeve, Sunday, 17 January 2010 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

so far my main impression is that it sounds awful - it's one of those albums you can tell was mostly completed over DropBox, where none of the elements seem to gel and its got this dull lifeless sound to it, outside of the orchestral bits. if I didn't know better I'd suspect it was AI-generated, not just because of the compositions (which feel like they're just stringing things together) but also because of what sounds like a bunch of digital sludge (especially on the drums, which sound particularly bad), or maybe because they're using a lot of flat digital reverb, or maybe it's new Jon, who sings everything the same way and also writes such bizarrely generic lyrics. amusingly the long track has the line "In the age of AI, there goes you and I"...wtf ???

lotta little runs by Howe and Downes here, occasionally on time with the music in fact. Howe sounds like he's lost a step but some of his playing is decent. Downes is still using his presets from his Asia days. kinda wonder who is really at the wheel here. is it new Jon?

frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:10 (two days ago)

only track I kinda liked is "Jambustin" mostly because its so fuckin stupid, "Don't Kill the Whale" heads can rejoice

frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:15 (two days ago)

Got about halfway through some 14 minute track called Countermovement and bailed, and that's me done with the new Yes album. Not that I had any expectations for it. Why does this record even exist? An excuse for touring I guess, I'm not sensing a vast enthusiasm for the music.

pax ramona (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:25 (two days ago)

it's abysmal. even the last two Davidson albums were better than this. Really surprised to see people online saying it's their favorite of his run. I think this beats Heaven and Earth for the slot of 'worst Yes album ever'

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:35 (two days ago)

more auto tune than a T-Pain album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:38 (two days ago)

I basically dropped out of listening to new Yes music with Anderson Bruford Wakeman and Howe, which isn't even that bad in retrospect (though some is very bad). I'm very cautiously dipping my toes into the records I've missed, starting with the Keys to Ascension releases, which could have provided an enjoyable LP-length studio release. Probably The Ladder is next for me. I may get to Aurora in the 2050s maybe.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:45 (two days ago)

I'm out after 90125, which I kind of like against my better judgement but it's not really Yes anyway if you ask me. Don't think I've even heard Big Generator all the way through, best to focus on the good stuff rather than the warmed-over attempts to recapture former glories (and make some $$$).

pax ramona (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:51 (two days ago)

even the last two Davidson albums were better than this.

I haven't listened to the new one yet, but I liked Mirror To The Sky.

wipes chooser (unperson), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:58 (two days ago)

the only post 90125 stuff I ever listen to on a regular basis are a handful of songs off Generator and ABWH, and all of Fly From Here, which is really very good.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:58 (two days ago)

They premiered Big Generator on the syndicated radio call-in show Rockline, when they played the title track I thought, "oh, that's funny, they put in a bit of the 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' bassline as a humorous callback". Then I realized with horror that's the actual bassline.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:59 (two days ago)

I'm very cautiously dipping my toes into the records I've missed

Try Magnification (the 2001 album they made with an orchestra). I like it.

wipes chooser (unperson), Thursday, 18 June 2026 14:59 (two days ago)

yeah that one is pretty good too, I dont' listen to it very often but it's better than Talk and Open Your Eyes which you can just skip

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:01 (two days ago)

My boss has a copy of that signed by the guy who did the arrangements.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:01 (two days ago)

The Ladder has some good stuff on it - the opening track definitely has a full-throated "Yes is BACK!" feel to it in the chorus at least. Magnification is pretty good as well. Fly From Here ain't quite Drama, but it's decent. The Davison albums you could pretty comfortably write out of Yes history however. as bad as Heaven & Earth was at least that one had some hooks on it, I can still remember how half the tunes go, while the last three are completely indistinguishable from one another. Yes have certainly had their ups and downs but they never made the same album twice, even the Rabin albums all sound pretty distinct to me.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:12 (two days ago)

Probably The Ladder is next for me

the ladder is really good! there are a few duds, but the two epics -- "homeworld" and "new languages" -- completely rule. "face to face" and "to be alive" are decent prog-pop, and "nine voices" is as fine a latter-day closer as they've ever recorded, up there with "take the water to the mountain" and "into the storm." and there is no talking me out of my theory that "lightning strikes" inspired anco's merriweather post pavilion

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:16 (two days ago)

and frogbs you are doing hero work taking the bullet for us with aurora. i'm pretty much done with 'the davison era'

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:18 (two days ago)

only track I kinda liked is "Jambustin" mostly because its so fuckin stupid, "Don't Kill the Whale" heads can rejoice

Okay, you've got my attention

qualmsley, you too! Haven't tried The Ladder yet (or almost any actual Yes -- been so happy with Olias, Tales from Topographic Oceans, and Tormato for now)

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 18 June 2026 15:23 (two days ago)

Don't Kill the Whale is a great song

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 18 June 2026 16:10 (two days ago)

You've gotta dig it (dig it)

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 June 2026 16:11 (two days ago)

There's so many fun solo albums and offshoots that I won't be listening to those post-Jon albums any time soon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 June 2026 19:00 (two days ago)


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