― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah. Like, that's what he's really singing...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)
1>2>3>4
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
If I say I like Nerve Net will everyone hate me?
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.astralwerks.com/eno/reissue.html
― rh, Thursday, 3 June 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 3 June 2004 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 June 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)
"Becalmed" is my favorite on AGW.
"Kings Lead Hat" is not dumb. It is a perfect pop song.
But like kjoerup I'm tired of reissues. I'd much rather spend my time learning about and chasing down things that are new to me. And one wonders...will these things just get released again in 10 or 20 years when technology is even better? And will we still buy them?
― Bimble (bimble), Thursday, 3 June 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, it's Eno, that might well be what he's singing
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm not tired of reissues. If it's a choice between Here Come The Warm Jets (in whatever sonic state) and the Junior Boys, then I'm happy to be content with "old" things.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Sorry if you've already seen this.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)
petridish reviewing the four eno reissues:"Throughout pop history bands and artists have insisted on making arty records with no tunes, as opposed to what people want to hear... (introduction drones on for another 500 words, namechecking Kid A, Faust Tapes and Metal Machine Music) ...and there are pop stars who can't play any instruments (crawls on for another 500 words, namechecking Sid Vicious, Bez and Lena Zavaroni before saying that Eno's solo albums aren't worth bothering with because all classical music sounds the same)"
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Unbelievable comments from this Petridis... it's not music writing, I'm afraid, of any kind I would acknowledge.
One would have thought that these Eno albums would have been good enough on t' tune front - it's great, displaced pop music - for such Luddites, yet clearly he's not listened to them at all. Or is playing up to some sort of image; sounds a rehash of his PJ Harvey 'thoughts'.
― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)
in reality he'd probably give the grauniad review to someone like adam sweeting to write 100 words of nothing about.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Sounds a real waste if they've messed up the remaster of AGW, as it's just about my favourite 'pop-period Eno', mood-wise at least.
― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 3 June 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 4 June 2004 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― John 2, Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Some 'ANG' tracks appear in slightly different versions. Some of the tracks are barely distinguishable 'alternate' mixes of pieces from 'Music For Films' volume I, the last few tracks are rough versions of the drones from 'Apollo'. Incredibly annoying liner notes, 43 minutes long.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 4 April 2005 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007GFFVG/qid=1112633362/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-0855610-6327942?v=glance&s=music&n=507846
― John 2, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)
$15 new version or $10 used old version?
Or are there some albums that are worth getting the reissues of, and some that are not? Hopefully someone with a keen ear can lend some advice.
― JBC (flamingrev), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
These jewel case Eno CDs I imagine are the same remasters? Anyone found them or or the digipaks going cheap anywhere>
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 10:13 (sixteen years ago)
Yup, the jewel case CD's are the same. I managed to grab a couple of them for £7 in Fopp recently. Amazon had the whole bunch for around the same price the last time I checked.
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 10:45 (sixteen years ago)
Go for the jexel cases if you can, the plastic sleeve surround on the digipaks is so tight it's practically impossible to extract thge digipaks without fucking them up slightly.
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:25 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, thata a fair point. Those plastic sleeve's are murder!
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:33 (sixteen years ago)
2017 half-speed LPs? Are they a bunch of hooey or what?
― bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:27 (seven years ago)
have not heard them, but...
CONSUMER ALERT!!
Apparently the reissue of Another Green World is messed up. The "Rosalie" line is mysteriously edited out of "Everything Merges With The Night" acc. to some who bought the reissue. I'm not sure this is the case with ALL of them... and I sadly missed this the first time around to listening to the reissues.. and I don't have time to check for myself.
So, um, those of you who HAVE the reissue of AGW, check it and note it, if that's the case. Surely, they are working on rectifying this, one would hope.
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:55 AM (fourteen years ago)
what the fuck, now I gotta check for this stupid mistake
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:01 (seven years ago)
They fixed the AGW mistake after the first pressing of the remaster.
I haven't heard the half-speed reissues, but reports vary pretty widely on the Hoffman forums: a lot of people like them, but some have noted dropouts and other defects that didn't used to be there, while faulty copies aren't uncommon (as with seemingly most vinyl releases in recent years).
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)
Has this half speed stuff not been debunked?
― Duke, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:59 (seven years ago)
this is one of my favorite steve hoffman forum posts ever: "Half-speed mastering is a two-edged sword. One one edge, for a response of 20-20,000, the cutterhead only has to go up to 10,000, so if there are any nonlinearities in the upper range, they will be greatly reduced. Plus, if you were going to, say, 30,000 Hz (and you can, with both analog masters and vinyl) you'll have that much more "breathing room" up there.
On the other edge of the sword, and this is a pretty sharp edge, you have to apply only half the RIAA curve when cutting the lacquer, and that's not always easy to do. Plus, now your response for 20-20K has to go down to 10 Hz. And to make things even more fun, the response of playback heads is slightly different at 15 IPS than at 30 IPS. That's why, generally, you'll find 15 IPS machines set to NAB, and 30 IPS machines running IEC.
Half-speed, when done well, is very good. It's just not easy, and my kudos to those that can pull it off."
what????
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)
wow, good find, that's fascinating to me (I also had no idea what NAB/IEC meant, looked it up and they are EQ standards)
I already have these albums on OG vinyl and the remastered CDs, so I have no stake in this but I'd be wary if I was in the market
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)
wary of the half speed versions, I mean
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
― Duke, Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
GO FOR IT
― brimstead, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
Apparently "Apollo" is being reissued in an expanded edition, with a second disc of music. What's unclear to me is if the second disc is unreleased old material or new music inspired by revisiting the soundtrack.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:56 (seven years ago)
Cool, love Deep Blue Day.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:17 (seven years ago)
the second disc is a newly recorded album, according to Eno's facebook post (which makes it sound like the Eno brothers had been estranged, lol):
Apollo – Atmospheres & Soundtracks – Extended Edition’ out July 19th. Eno reunites with brother, Roger and Daniel Lanois on 11 new tracks accompanying the seminal remastered album. On 2LP gatefold vinyl, limited numbered 2CD with hardcover book, + standard 2CD. Enoshop and uDiscover each have 250 copies of a free limited ‘Apollo’ A2 print for vinyl and limited CD versions.
it was previously remastered in 2005, so I'm not sure why his site claims it's being "remastered for the first time". the new material should be interesting though
― lispectah deck (unregistered), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 14:16 (seven years ago)
blah, I just recently hunted down a nice copy of this on vinyl to replace my shitty one. guess I'm buying this again this summer.
― akm, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:02 (seven years ago)
Awesome, really looking forward to this. I have a copy of Apollo but it’s a little beat up and skips sometimes. Plus I think Eno is currently making the beat music he’s made since...Apollo
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 03:47 (seven years ago)
^best^ music, I meant. So I’m looking forward to the new tracks!
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 03:48 (seven years ago)
Roger’s second record, Between Tides, is exceptional. Apollo is maybe a bit overrated but I’m looming forward to this.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:39 (seven years ago)
Song here: https://open.spotify.com/track/7jUONYw71MlhFeEC7IZKQd?si=NMEx-Iw5SZCOhc__204X7Q
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:41 (seven years ago)