basic channel/maurizio/chain reaction, s&d

these guys just had a showcase on this stuff

http://hypnotic-breaks.blogspot.com/

s: basic channel t-shirt

QUADRANT

s: basic channel t-shirt

-- haitch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 05:23

if i saw someone in a basic channel t shirt, i'd give them a little nod and then maybe they'd nod back or grin like "'sup".

is that site giving away entire EPs (indeed, practically entire catalogues)? if so, that's pretty fucked.

they're sort of working off the same idea as Discogs Report, but with even more downloads of more stuff.

which is pretty fucked.

also pretty fucked: i was going to do a little thing on the basic channel family on my blog. now i have to stick to chain reaction stuff.

i'm all in favour of music blogs posting up some digitized old vinyl that's been out of print for 10 years or whatever but this is all still available to buy, isn't it?

and given that the only way to download all that is to give rapidshare some money this is like, illegal x100000 - also i hate rapidshare, have i mentioned that?

@_@

i be like damn

new model 500! cool!

that deepchord album (coldest season) is probably the best electronic lp from this year

Yeah, but the echospace stuff like vahid linked above pisses me off with it's extremely limited availability. I haven't been able to get any of them yet and I've wanted them all. Still haven't even heard a rip of the CV313 and I need to!

Well I guess I should've looked at the blog Jena linked above. They're all there. But I still want the vinyl! And I agree with the others, giving away readily available releases in their entirety just pisses me off.

next time you feel stupid for wasting time arguing on ILX, consider that some people address their need for attention by stealing music and posting it on the internet

wow i just clicked over to that blog! a mint original pressing of the quadrant ep on r&s is going for 50 euros on discogs..

i have slowly been collecting all of the basic channel releases from hardwax (on fat colored vinyl even)

hong kong by monolake is going for 100 euros in the metal tin

someone paid $30 for *JUST THE CD* on ebay last month

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

I feel bad for posting that link now :/ I've got about 15-20 of blogs like this in my bookmarks, and I'm not even really looking.

the dude who sold "just the CD" = first case of the metal tin breaking the metal tin

i liek 2 downlode

are the echospace 12"s different from the cd's tracks in any way?

Something I read seemed to suggest that the cd tracks were actually extended versions (or maybe different mixes) of the 12" tracks in certain cases.

Got the Scion "Arrange and Process" in the mail yesterday. Overall it's more upbeat techno than expected, but it sounds great. So far it seems BCD1 is a deeper listen, and wish the vinyl series was available on CD or official download.

those echospace detroit releases aren't particularly limited. they keep on repressing them. they are, however, ridiculously expensive.

i sold my monolake metal tin for in excess of $80 last year. it's getting reissued so get on it.

wish the vinyl series was available on CD or official download.

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the vinyl series mp3 rips i've heard on soulseek are horrendous quality

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Yeah, I've seen the blog link upthread but the old-fashioned warm fuzzy feeling of supporting the artists really adds to my enjoyment of the music.

i LOVE that arrange & process record. at first i wasn't so into it, but i came to it over time.

the vinyl series mp3 rips i've heard on soulseek are horrendous quality

-- resolved, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:01 AM (21 minutes ago)

i must have the good rips then :_)

who knows, i'm comparing to how the records sound through an ok stereo so it's never going to be a fair contest. real master-sourced mp3s would be so much better but i highly doubt it's ever going to happen.

"sound quality" is sorta missing the point w/r/t basic channel, no?

way xpost

You know I just saw that the cv313 echospace was re-pressed resolved. I'll definitely try to get one of those, but it's kinda weird they're doing that after all the talk of these limited pressings.

xp, i always thought the point was a kind of hi-fi lossiness. you are gonna lose the hiss with compression!

no i don't think saying vinyl rips of basic channel aren't up to scratch is missing the point. obviously the series is imperfect sounding but it's a calculated imperfection, widescreened and bassy -- both of which are lacking from VINYL RIPPED 192 mp3s. although clearly they're far better than nothing if you don't want to buy a turntable/all the records.

it all depends on the 12" anyway. if you're saying superior sound quality doesn't add any extra value to eg bc04 we'll have to agree to disagree.

well, i know that the original pressing of round two sounded like utter crap and not on purpose. and there was sand or dirt on the stamper for the repress of lyot reshape. i don't think the poor sound quality was always calculated.

but you are right about them wanting to sound imperfect. the best description i ever heard of their sound was "like hearing a dope warehouse rave from a couple blocks away"

yeah some of the pressings are quite sloppy, i'll give you that -- but the clear version of bc04 -- oof. one of the best sounding records i own.

i dunno about the crackly press of lyot remix being unintentional though... i actually think it sounds better that way! as hardwax notes about its dancehall: "Most of these are Jamaican pressings, with crackle and dust built in. This is how it’s supposed to be!"

rhythm and sound no longer together?

http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2007/08/04/sad-news/

i'd say moritz von oswald doing a remix of 2raumwohnung is a fairly strong indicator they're on a break at least. whatever happened to that luciano remix he had scheduled on ostgut ton?

holy blargh.

Anyway, if the warehouse rave thing is true of Basic Channel, then I feel like Fluxion is hearing a dark warehouse rave from inside a gigantic tank of water.

also. UR mix of Ploy is great, had never heard it before a few days ago.

they both did separate remixes of Tony Allen this year too.

yeah i know but the relative insignificance of 2raumwohnung just set the really set the alarm bells ringing for me...

-1st set the...

no offence intended to 2raumwohnung particularly. i'd just never imagine them getting a basic channel family remix.

i still haven't heard the full m-series, just the comp. cd

who's loss? your loss!

resolved, you are right about bc-04. the way that first track sounds, that way it moves me... i think my favorite basic channel song if i picked one. funky, dark, moody, uplifting rhythms, perfect timing, pumping bass

and the UR mix of ploy! that's what made me listen to UR. probably my fave UR song besides amazon and transition.

of course the remixes tell you more about the remixers than r&s! they take the minimalism and turn it into dance music. soundstream one is so enjoyably bouncy.

i don't hear dread in either "king in my empire" or "queen in my empire", i hear spiritual triumph and jubilation. not sure which of the other vocal tracks might feel more dread-y. but reading back what you said, i get you on the volume and the singular presence of the sound, it's very powerful.

It's a me thing, once you really get into dub territory I miss all the beautiful & detailed drumming (and bass playing) that's as much a part of the appeal for me as the dub mixing. But I know this has its own thing, it's cool.

i feel you on liking 'actual' dub more than these records tbr

the dread is in the suffocatingly thick prescence of the sound, the power comes from how methodically it rolls out and sets a scene that stays still as it moves. in 'king in my empire' the lyrics describe the whole world in jah's hand but the vocals don't rejoice, they leer and promise a comeuppance, 'i'm like a burning fire, leave me you old vampire'

damn, nice read. there is definitely comeuppance in it. i love that track to pieces. campbell is so amazing on it.

i feel like the vocal versions of the see mi yah riddim are generally more "dread" than the king in my empire version

i forget exactly which it is but one of the remixes is really sparse and scary. maybe the sleeparchive "dem never know" mix?

the one about the lover cheating with the best friend, i can't remember the title, that one i remember feeling spooky, a little like a ghost story.

the carl craig "poor people must work" is pretty haunting imo.

that carl craig remix is stunning and eerie, also love the sleeparchive. despite both being dated by some clicky 00's percussion, that might just be my hangup though

yeah pretty much all of those remixes sound a little dated tbf

back in style in five years, when mnml revival happens

i'm fine with that just please no clicks this time

how about some roland hand claps?

eternal

Definitely get that sense of dread from Rod of Iron’s vocals on Lightning Storm

I think Pole is the closest comparison to sound the Basic Channel guys achieved with R&S, but even more faded, degraded and glitchy.

the dubplates & mastering-centered group of the time

LOL at Paul St. Hilaire titling his new album "w/ The Producers", but also it's excellent.

I can't believe over 2 years passed since this thread was last bumped

Thanks for the heads up re. St. Hilaire. The album's indeed excellent. Shall purchase tomorrow (Bandcamp Friday).

Listening to Basic Channel stuff more than ever at the moment. The Chain Reaction records, particularly the Various Artists album are perfect at this time of year (any time of year, really),.