Simpin Ain't Easy: The Official Thread For Drake's Sophomore Album, TAKE CARE

Uh...

Resisting fanboy posting.

i'm just baiting these two goofs & jordan smartly dodged it

tbf whiney's mag only gave quik 7/10

has whiney been to drake's listening party?

I'm stuck imagining a parallel universe where Drake vocoder-mumbles Quik one-liners while Quik apologises for everything all the time but in his perky voice.

That would be the best album ever, eh Tim?

It's not exactly number one on my dream collabos list

Hahahaa nooo doubt.

speaking of LTTP i totally get now why some people's favorite track on that is "shades".....

I think mine's still "Looking for Love"

jt's drake piss-take on "shades" renders drake himself entirely redundant

listening now, LTTP still blows me the fuck away

LTTP is great besides fucking Diddy.

Diddy is frequently the best part!

SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE

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markers otm

yeah ren ur doin it rong

i hope everyone who thinks i'm an idiot for loving this album at least recognizes what the RONGest post itt is

there's no way to separate LTTP from diddy, anyway. it would be like saying that a clint eastwood directed movie also starring clint eastwood was great, except for clint eastwood's acting. well, he also directed the movie, so it's a pretty tough distinction to make.

ren should have to go get us all some cheesecake just for saying that

otm I like strawberry marble cheesecake

j0rd iyo what's the best produced track on this

chocolate lime cheesecake for me please

oh man there is a market every sunday 2 minutes from my house and the cheesecake stall there a) sells some of the most delicious cheesecake i have ever eaten b) is manned by such a hott boy, who, i assume, also bakes the cheesecakes

well i'm gonna throw out the just blaze track bcuz while it's incredibly dope it's kind of in it's own category. like i'd rather talk about that beat in comparison to shit off the blueprint or something than other beats on this album.

otherwise my favorite two beats are the opening track, "doing it wrong" or "look what you've done"

er, three beats

diddy making a cornball song like "coming home" genuinely emotionally affecting might be one of his greatest accomplishments as a performer

otm

redeeming alex da kid takes some sort of unknowable amount of vision

there's no way to separate LTTP from diddy, anyway. it would be like saying that a clint eastwood directed movie also starring clint eastwood was great, except for clint eastwood's acting. well, he also directed the movie, so it's a pretty tough distinction to make.

― J0rdan S., Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:01 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

Actually this would be kinda OTM for "Gran Torino"?

nah, the kid actors were the worst part of 'gran torino'

fair point.

Ok, I'll get y'all some cheesecake.

I'm sorry, though, I like LTTP a lot, but Diddy is not and will never be "genuinely emotionally affecting" as a performer, to me. He's way too stiff and unnatural.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:08 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

lex's post about the self-absorption of the lyrics/total lack detail about other people is probably the best criticism that will be written about this album & besides the (admittedly improved but still often) awful rapping is it's greatest fault. it's a really repulsive quality, like people who interrupt you when you're talking to them & clearly weren't even listening to what you were saying and then just talk about themselves endlessly. wouldn't be such a problem if the whole thing weren't seemingly geared towards inspiring sympathy? idk, i guess this is a kanye thing. i find drake at his best while either singing or when he's most blasé & detached; i think a big reason he's improved as a rapper is he's ditched (for the most part) attempts at humour or overly emotional delivery. i kind of like his flatter, colder, more angular style; his attempts at dynamic or like, increasing intensity throughout a verse, are usually pretty bad, but there aren't too many of them. the production is obviously the highlight & is best at it's most moody submarine music/noodly sad synths, but it's all really really good. pretty great album on the whole

fav songs are

over my dead body
we'll be fine
good ones go (interlude)
the real her

i know this has been discussed a lot lately on rap threads but: is rick ross the best rapper in the world right now? can't think of anyone who's had as many standout verses or whose features/album i look forward to more atm

Also, is Andre's verse kind of awkward here? Sounds like it would be better read than rapped...

when rawse DIDN'T start rapping in the reema major video i was so relieved

rawse = space filler to me tbh

it's a good qn though but surely nicki/yela/tip, anyway. can see meek mill getting there in time.

your take on ross is so 2+ years ago lex gwtp

i wouldnt go that far but there is an emptiness to Ross that keeps him from ever being 'best rapper' imo

i dont think yela is anywhere near it. agreed about meek mill

he hasn't changed all that much to me! when he pops up i think "oh it's you again" and nothing sticks, ever (apart from a couple of his verses with meek mill)

i really pray he doesn't appear on teedra's album just cuz she's on his label

ross is way ahead of meek mill imo

and yeah, drake's personality is still the biggest stumbling block for me and i don't think i'll ever get over it. or i feel like, if there's ever an album where you'll get over it for the music, it'd be this one, and i still can't make that leap

to me its just that he's chosen hip-hop to be his vehicle when the kind of music he makes doesn't fit into that framework. His whole approach . Hip-hop's language, its way of speaking & of bragging, has always been the language of the struggle & it feels like he tries to co-opt that language and it just comes across as blatant cynical branding imo, instead of organic understanding.

ross is way ahead of meek mill imo

― lloyd banksfein (flopson), Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

as a rapper?? no way. meek mill connects w/ people in a way ross never will

i wouldnt go that far but there is an emptiness to Ross that keeps him from ever being 'best rapper' imo

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

but its all relative, ross has improved & everyone else has gotten worse

what the hell is wrong with you guys

meek mill does not connect with me the way ross does

i'm actually right in between flopson & lex on this one though -- obvi ross has improved greatly as a rapper and i think as long as he keeps up the writerly style he'll be important. possibly the biggest rapper (no joke intended) in the game. but not really the best. he's not tapping into that tier that Boosie did, or the lineage of guys who resonated as real legends imo