Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread

just got a recording of lou + laurie anderson performing some of these lulu tracks in 2010. should be interesting! will probably post on the blog soon.

― tylerw, Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

whaaaat

I'm going to be feverishly hitting refresh on tyler's blog for the foreseeable future.

Some of that stuff is on youtube. I thought more people knew about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0

yeah i think it was even posted upthread. not sure if this is the same gig i've got now...

here ya go! http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/12605700875/the-greatest-disappointment-heres-something-for
it's pretty good, some cool versions. "Junior Dad" is the only Lulu tune. might like the Lulu version better though! just a duo show as far as i can tell. zorn-free.

They just don't care who they alienate do they!
http://thequietus.com/articles/07370-metallica-to-play-black-album-at-download-2012

What next???

Metallica - the Raoul Moat of stadium metal - have followed up releasing their 11th best album by announcing that they're going to play their sixth best album in its entirety.

(Had to google Raoul Moat, and still don't get the reference)

idgi it either! also:
i am not too up on metallica fandom, but ... people really hate the Black Album? It's still seen as the ultimate sellout?
Just seems like at this point, for a good amount of their fans, that would've been the gateway. maybe i'm wrong.

Doran to thread, plz to explain wor Moaty reference.

Wasn't Moat the steroidal killer Geordie?

went crazy, killed himself embarrassingly?

that's the fella, also a folk hero for the stupid.

Impulsive, self-destructive, should have stayed in the sewers and never show his face again.

Pal of Gazza's too, iIrc

i am not too up on metallica fandom, but ... people really hate the Black Album? It's still seen as the ultimate sellout?
Just seems like at this point, for a good amount of their fans, that would've been the gateway. maybe i'm wrong.

It was the gateway for millions of fans, but for those of us who were older, a) it was a surprisingly weak collection of songs (good singles, loads of filler) and b) off-puting to see mainstream audiences embrace something that just wasn't anywhere near as good as the first four albums. It's trite looking back, it's an immaculately produced record, but it was a bitter pill back then.

Pudgy angry-man face, gingery mohawk, does a terrible version of White Light/White Heat

White Light/ White Moat

i listened to all of "junior dad" on the way home last night (lulu version) and kind of had a moment, got actual chills

love the strings at the end so, so much

yeah it is great. lou's vocal is fab -- wish he'd chill out and sing like that more often.

black album = 5th best surely?

yeah it is great. lou's vocal is fab -- wish he'd chill out and sing like that more often.

― tylerw, Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:50 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for a lot of the album it sounds like he's really straining to be heard over a band as muscular as metallica...which sometimes works, esp on the really hard/fast songs like the "supreme violation/oh jack i beeseech ya" parts etc...but yeah on jr dad he's voice doesn't sound shot and i think it's because he could relax and not strain

It already made the bottom 100 at rate your music, sneaking in at #98:

http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/bottom/album/all-time

Metallica & Lou Reed : Lulu est un flop commercial
‎Jeux Actu MUSIQUE - 1 day ago

Megaflop af Metallica
‎Ekstra Bladet - 20 hours ago

Lulu di Metallica e Lou Reed: un flop annunciato?
‎Newnotizie - 2 days ago

Il flop 'n roll dell'anno
‎Lettera43 - Nov 1, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cHesdP5BxY

earlier today, I was playing legos with my 3 year old son and kind of repeatedly singing the lines "I am the root" and "I am the table". My son thinks I'm crazy.

Lou Reed and Metallica both seem the sort to pride themselves on a flop like this for all the wrong reasons. That is, they'd probably think it's because they were too avant garde, pushing the boundaries too hard, too far. Challenging fans too much. Because they won't play according to your rules, maaaaaan.

For some reason it all brings to mind this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIhIwSqt-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdrgdh5U3z0&list=PL7CDDF3296CD889DA&index=3&feature=plpp_video

I still can't believe this is happening.

like a dream

i've been reading an Ellen Willis anthology that has a lot of great stuff about Lou Reed in it, makes me really wish she was alive to write about this

Lou seems really happy in that clip. Who is the dude on keyboards?

Poor Lars should pull a Neil Peart and relearn how to play drums, since the way he does it now looks like it really pains him or something.

lars is really not looking the rockstar part these days. kind of get the impression that in all other facets of life he's moved on from the metal thing, but the whole metallica thing is too much of a juggernaut to shift away from.

Ending on that one ^^ is nice.

Opening to this one needs to be added to one of the ILX Dragons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuPBNP1ON7E&feature=relmfu

lars is really not looking the rockstar part these days. kind of get the impression that in all other facets of life he's moved on from the metal thing, but the whole metallica thing is too much of a juggernaut to shift away from.

― charlie h, Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:39 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

so he's the new charlie watts basically

Charlie Watts never looks like he's working! Lars is, like, struggling.

well yeah, i just meant in the sense that he's maybe mentally checked out and is just plugging away at the thing that pays for his next yacht or whatever. lars has ALWAYS been kind of an awkward and unpleasant drummer for me to watch (and to a lesser extent listen to).

Looks like Lou in those clips is the only one not wearing any pussy-ass in-ear monitor.

lou could've gone deaf and learned to lip read years ago and nobody would have noticed

i just meant in the sense that he's maybe mentally checked out and is just plugging away at the thing that pays for his next yacht or whatever. lars has ALWAYS been kind of an awkward and unpleasant drummer for me to watch (and to a lesser extent listen to).

i dunno, he was the only member of the group visibly committed to BEING IN METALLICA in Some Kind Of Monster, with James busy keeping the Hulk at bay, and Kirk playing luke-warm water. Plus if he was just in it for the yachts this Lou Reed thing would not be happening, and St. Anger wouldn't have been so bold. That was his baby.

he is a horrible drummer to watch and listen to, though

Lars has always had an inferiority complex, as a drummer and as an Artist. He has always whined publicly about his perception as a drummer, and as the movie underscores, he clearly craves acceptance on several fronts: from his dad, from his bandmates, from the art world. He sees his former bassist's shitty band and says "this is the future." He sees Sigur Ros and says "this is what the cool people like." He gets a chance to work with Lou Reed, and surely somewhere in that busy Scandinavian brain of his he recognizes the potential to get something he thinks he does not have.

The interview Lars did with Howard Stern in September was fascinating. He had to take drumming lessons before recording Ride the Lightning.

i found that interview on that german show they posted on pitchfork a little bit depressing. think it was due to a combination of the presenter's woodenness, hetfield's inarticulateness and lou's churlishness. lars, thanks to a predictable turn of verbal diarrhea, was by far the most interesting to listen to.

on the question of lars, yeah i do think he has kind of "mentally checked out". obviously not in a passive way like charlie watts, given that he remains the most outspoken and effervescent member of metallica, but more in terms of how he seems to connect and engage with the music, which really seems to be at increasing odds with his public persona. there is definitely an element of celebrity and self-awareness in how he conducts himself, it's just that this seems removed from metallica somehow. it strikes me as kind of strange since the only thing he's famous for is being part of metallica.

lol at lou reading his shitty lyrics off of a teleprompter

I wonder if it was equipped with LouZoom.

He's been doing that for 20+ years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZRxjpxccF0

Ha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq4SqGStzE