IF THAT'S YOUR POSITION.....WELL IT WASN'T LAST NIGHT
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)
is that a Drake lyric
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:43 (fourteen years ago)
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lmao
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:43 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
its meshell
so you admit your position is totally incoherent
no, i prioritise what i find interesting, which often happens to be major albums, but not nec because they're major albums
look the thing is the number of copies drake sells is irrelevant here. it's a red herring. if that was the case you'd just be listening to the top billboard albums and there are a ton of those you'll never bother with. it's because you want to be part of the ~critical conversation~ so you follow what other critics are talking to. fucking herd mentality!
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)
how on earth are meshell and drake being set up against each other itt. i def prefer the former but cmon dude. u sound like a rockist talking about how if only the pop charts could understand REAL ART
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)
guys while you are listening to Drake, Me'Shell is playing "Leviticus: Faggot" to EMPTY ARENAS! THIS IS ON YOU
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)
u sound like a rockist talking about how if only the pop charts could understand REAL ART
yep. word for word
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)
it's like all of a sudden Lex is grandpa simpson
they both make moody "soul" records. one has done a fantastic record but critics are not talking about her so you're not either. the other has made a dreadfuk record in line with his dreadful career but OMG IMPORTANT SELLS RECORDS ROCK CRITICS LOVE HIM LET'S TALK ABOUT DRAKE AND NOT MESHELL
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:47 (fourteen years ago)
also i refuse to be cast as the anti-pop one when i am the only one here who wil rep for kim kardashian's single
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too...
xp
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:47 (fourteen years ago)
hey lex i haven't listened to drake :)
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
when meshell's album isn't just streaming on npr.org i'll talk about it. you're really taking this line of argument up with the wrong people tbh
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
m@tt! :)
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2958166658_13f97e7e81.jpg
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:51 (fourteen years ago)
as i've said though commercial popularity is a red herring here. if it's not i trust you've all listened to the coldplay, kelly clarkson, adele and tom waits albums? (hang on, tom waits has a top 10 album in your country wtf?)
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:51 (fourteen years ago)
i wasn't crazy abt the tom waits single but heard the whole album at a friend's house and i really ended up liking it, kinda cool almost 50s sounding recording, kinda odd but it works
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:54 (fourteen years ago)
i haven't listened to kelly clarkson because the genres i care about dont include her. this is pretty elementary, lex!
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:54 (fourteen years ago)
maybe if her album had a rick ross feature or just blaze beats
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)
or me'shell ndegeocello
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, i'm sure at some pt i'll check out coldplay or the waits record. but i have no sense of professional obligation to know what those sound like. whereas, for the genres i do cover, i do.
not sure what's so hard to understand about this
i think boxing yourself into certain popular genres (and off from certain other popular ones) is kind of weird. i mean you like katy perry don't you? why then would you not care about kelly clarkson, who is kind of like if katy perry could sing and wasn't completely intolerable?
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:57 (fourteen years ago)
hang on what you like rick ross that much?
KMFT he is A BAD RAPPER and no amount of stockholm syndrome filling-the-void "popularity" will change that
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
its so crazy that i posted in the Heavy D RIP thread but not the dimebag darrell one!! what a hypocrit
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
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i like 2 katy perry singles. i didnt check her album either
we're going thru the wormhole here
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)
i for one listened had an opinion on drake bcuz he was popular, listened to his first album once because he was popular and powerful and i thought as a critic i should have an opinion on it, i listened to this album and want to talk about it a lot because i think it's great, and i could care less about what it's going to sell. i don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to converse with your critics and friends and thus deciding to listen to an album that lots of ppl are talking about.
& yes i really don't think meshell and drake need to be pitted together on ilm of all places, sheesh
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)
lex you are being weird right now imo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:00 (fourteen years ago)
...like a basketball player
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:01 (fourteen years ago)
okay well i trust i'll see you all on the meshell thread in a few days
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:01 (fourteen years ago)
maybe on the mary j one in a few weeks
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)
when you make listening to the artists you like seem like a chore you're not doing them any favors
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
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you probably will!
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
what is with this zero-sum-gain thinking? it's not like me'shell's music is going to evaporate cuz the attention on the board is going to this album, which is probably the biggest release of the year
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:05 (fourteen years ago)
you didn't think of listening to drake as a chore? i bloody did
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
a chore you began lamenting before hitting 'play'
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
lex how wld u feel abt another critic or even just poster coming into a thread abt mariah carey or idk any other pop star u think has value & criticizing ppl liking or even just listening to it as "fuckin herd mentality!" ? u are being ridiculous imo
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
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darkchild, ester dean and james fauntleroy worked on it fwiw, but those songs don't sound very R&B or anything
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
lex keep fighting the good fight, drake is garbage, y'all are turning into dandelion enthusiasts
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)
hey j0rdan i liked yr pusha t review btw
this m'shell is pretty good! though i guess i'm surprised you like it lex! it seems to have a certain sorta boring respectiblility that i don't associate w/you
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)
if kelly clarkson had a 2 chainz feature
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)
thank you m@tt
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:16 (fourteen years ago)
most of the posters itt were not drake fans and only listened to it because it was this week's critical conversation
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:16 (fourteen years ago)
m@tt remember i love sade
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:17 (fourteen years ago)
if any artist leaves me NO motivation to listen to their album just to 'keep up' it's Drake -- he'll have like 20 songs in heavy rotation over the next year, a quarter of which will be from this album. i really don't feel like i'm missing out on anything.
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
xxxpost j0rdan's been posting about how he's been thinking this might be good for months!
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
you should prob give it a spin, it's pretty great
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:19 (fourteen years ago)
xpost yeah def get the sade thing
it's just sometimes lex i feel like you shit on certain things because they have kind of an "NPR" appeal you know?
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:20 (fourteen years ago)
maybe when it's on spotify i'll put it on but the idea of hunting for a leak and making a point to put it on my ipod and spend an hour with it at work is like NO
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:21 (fourteen years ago)