Lindstrom & Prins Thomas are the shit

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Yes vahid you are right about the disco tradition, but as futurism and innovation (though not experimentation for its own sake) is what I demand, the disco tradition is just as likely to stick to tradition (boring return to live instruments or old 90s sounds etc) as to throw down something new and exciting like say the best of Relief records. I don't think music has to be stripped back or minimal to be new. And I don't really get what's actually new about exciting about this cosmic disco revival. It doesn't sound much different to say El Chocolates records from about ten years ago.

Re the pop thing, I'd probably rather listen to the neptunes or sugababes or hard-fi, or something that's unashamedly pop 40 than some sub-recreation of 80s pop by Richard X or whatever. In the case of the neptunes it's probably more new sounding than an lot of dance music these days.Electro seemed a breath of fresh air after domination by funky house, but now it's just another boring mainstream sound.

― shiny star, Monday, 27 February 2006 07:10 (twenty years ago)

I'd probably rather listen to the neptunes or sugababes or hard-fi, or something that's unashamedly pop 40 than some sub-recreation of 80s pop by Richard X

this makes no sense. richard x produced a lot of the sugababes' stuff, incl. their biggest pop hits!

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:14 (twenty years ago)

ok i'm back from kinko's

as far as neptunes/sugababes go, maybe you do "get" pop. i'm not sure anybody (even ivan smagghe) would argue that what they're doing is as "new" or "exciting" as the human league - if you had lived through it. don't get caught in the trap a historicism. it'd have been just as easy for frank zappa to lampoon the ramones or new york dolls or whatever in the 1970s by recording "ruben + the jets" ("redundant piano triplets"!!!) (he lived through it, too, after all, cruising el cajon in a bread truck blasting bubblegum) and it would be just as wrong.

as far as stripping back / minimalism / tradition go ... not sure how you are going to defend relief here ... whatever cajmere wants to say about it (mr "i've heard a million acid tracks and frankly it's boring now") i'm not sure how you could characterize relief outside of sticking to tradition, functionalised

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:23 (twenty years ago)

i think L&PT are tying up loose ends from way back when and really are working in the past and maybe just using the unbias from the present. you could have imagined this going down in the 70's/80's - which i think is why its so immediate for alot of us...but it never did happen b/c even though disco and rock melded there were certain places where it did not intersect. i might get bored soon, but its nice to see this finally realized. and i don't think they are completely happy just making those connections, but also kinda try to build from that as if they have rewritten history...the further they go the more wobbly it gets, but some of it sounds like innovation to me. but just in why they go to the past ... it seems different that other dance artists using old stuff (re: those trends, i half agree with you/half with Vahid and really haven't heard enought stuff to know for sure how i feel....most of it seems boring though).

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:45 (twenty years ago)

You may like it or dislike it but I think the er hyper-maximalism of a lot of current "minimal" is not really retro, a lot of these records don't sound like they could come from any time except the last two or three years. Meanwhile the hyper-commercial electro-house at the moment isn't particularly "retro", or at least that's not what people are getting out of it... it's all about rock-riffs and eurobeat style rapping, not sure it's reviving anything except (inadvertantly) "Another One Bites the Dust" and The Real McCoy's "Another Night".

As far as L&PT go: how many people on dancefloors have actually heard (heard of, even) the "space disco" it rips off? I don't think I have! And as I said upthread I think it's pretty different to Faze Action or Nuphonic, a lot of which I also like.

Also... I love Villalobos but I'm now getting really really sick of him being namechecked as the "token" innovator in current electronic music, he is quickly becoming the German Kanye West or even Outkast in this regard.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:54 (twenty years ago)

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), Today.

i half agree with you, tim. villalobos may be on his way to token innovator status like kanye & outkast but i don't think that they have ever really taken solid ground and tilted it at a 45 degree angle with their music the way that he has.

― lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)

read one "hey ya!" thread

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

this leads me to a question: not being "old enough to remember the 90s" or even the first part of this decade, just how new is the scene documented on kreucht und fleucht? or does it fall to the sort of criticism levelled at l&pt by shiny star?

also, vahid, i can't find the hey ya! thread. google searches are fruitless and ilm searches don't work on queries with all words under 4 characters.

― lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Believe it or not, you guys have convinced me that I'm off the mark(although I am sick of the hyper-commercial electro-house).

I do think the new hyper-maximal minimal stuff is the most interesting stuff around now, but ok I'm being too purist and theoretical about cosmic disco.

― shiny star, Monday, 27 February 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

I've been listening to tons of this stuff (Lindstrom and related) lately and love it ... but I do sometimes find myself thinking that it could easily go the way of downtempo or whatever and become safe / boring restaurant background music ....

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)

"electrohouse" is straining under the weight of things that want to be called "electrohouse" by now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

""electrohouse" is straining under the weight of things that want to be called "electrohouse" by now."

Ha ha yes this is totally OTM. I don't know if this has ever happened before in quite the same way, maybe not since erm "techno"! Or "hardocre" maybe?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:06 (twenty years ago)

more live L&PT goodness from Japan:

Live at Mago pt. 2
Live at Mago pt. 3

part one hasn't been posted yet...

― something less threatening (heywood), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

thx. (also, got Mighty-thx!)

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

there's a lindstrom remix of franz ferdinand on the feedelity myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/feedelity

i'm guessing this is new as the only place i've heard about it was pitchfork a few days ago.

― jaime, Saturday, 4 March 2006 13:54 (twenty years ago)

So I got the re-pressed Feed 000 and Feed 001, and I wanted to ask if you folks agree that the "Music (In My Mind)" original is pressed at 45 and the Prins Thomas remix at 33? At points the remix sounds too slow (cosmic on purpose?) but it certainly sounds too chirpy at 45.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

the original 12" was pressed at 45, guess it's the same with the repress.
anyways, the remix starts up in the same tempo as the original.
I guess you should have found out by now as Isabelle's vocals would sound like Barry White when played at 33...

― major swellings, Monday, 27 March 2006 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Major Swellings. I'm gonna have to try that tonight, but really there can't be a question when it comes from the source. Thanks for posting.

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

btw SF folks - we've had the Magnet Lindstrom remixes for about a week or so now at Amoeba...come buy one!

also Forced Exposure says Eskimo is having a problem stocking the album and that it now should arrive in May.

― something less threatening (heywood), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

Lindstrom and Prins Thomas have nothing on trentemoller i think they lick there mum then suck there dads cock

― jim morison, Monday, 3 April 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

That's some imagination you've got there, jim.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

well at least he's alive.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:53 (twenty years ago)

people need to talk more about "Another Station", the original and Todd Terje's remix. Easily the best 12 on Feedelity apart from "I Feel Space", IMO.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

the terje remix is great! moroder/bruhn style, it could be 1978:)

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

I agree Ronan. I really, really enjoy both the original and the remix. They're right up there with Monsteer (which may be my single favorite Lindstrom track so far), I Feel Space, and Mighty Girl.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

the remix completley and utterly pwns the original!! the entire LPT oeuvre even! i guess Another Station is this years Sky Was Pink / Love Dose in that respect

― fez, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

when the pianos come in, on the terje remix of another station suddenly reminds me a lot, of the club mix of happy mondays hallelujah. in fact, shades of that whole madchester rave one ep, something kind of slouching 89 groove. yea

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

he has a forthcoming 12' coming called 'serious syntoms' which is the rawest thing he's ever done. endlessly repeating, slighty modulating moog bassline, live snare and hi hat and a bit of arp synth. sounds like it was recorded live in one take. mega.

did this ever come out? it sounds amazing!

― haitch (haitch), Monday, 10 April 2006 10:45 (twenty years ago)

nope, hasn't come out yet. yep, it's awesome!

― something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

anyone have the track list for mago, posted in feb? how about part 1 from this set. thanks in advance for any help.

― hully, Friday, 21 April 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I just got the "Violent Group" 12" in the mail, and I'm loving the A side it, not so much for the disco version though.

Does anyone know if this is any good : http://www.discogs.com/release/478681

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:50 (twenty years ago)

yes, it is. worth the price of admission just for 'flavoursaver'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Maybe I'm just in a good mood, but the moment when the choirs come in in "Breakfast In Heaven" (does anyone else have this?) is the most sublime thing...

Really, I am longing to hear this out.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 May 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

I like the way it toughens up at the end, like it's turning into Richard X's Rock Jacket or something.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 May 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

breakfast in heaven = treat on repeat.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

The fuzz electric guitar at the end of "Mighty Girl" is great. It's so live, it's like if Tortured Soul were actually, you know, inventive and had a techno edge to them.

Anyway that's my favorite so far.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Am finding it hard to listen to "Breakfast in Heaven" due to my brane making an irritating connection with Andrew Lloyd Webber's music for "Cats" arrgh

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

the breakdown is gorgeous, though

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

"Mighty Girl" almost has a latin vibe to it.. a gesture towards Villalobos, Luciano..?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Prins Thomas is playing Horse Meat Disco this Sunday.
http://www.southcentrallondon.co.uk/Nights/horsemeatdisco.htm

― davidsim (davidsim), Friday, 19 May 2006 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Everybody's gone microhorse.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

I loved the Mungolian Jet Set remix of "A Blast of Loser" (on the recent Feedelity Remixed 12" - the slow balearic Brennan Green remix of another track on the flip is ace as well) so much that I went in search of the Mungolian Jet Set myspace page and listened to some stuff there.

Anyway, turns out they're some sort of "future jazz" group - which seems to mean bizarro sampladelic percussive jazzy meanderings which sound great but not what I was expecting.

What i was expecting though was matched and exceeded in the "Lsb Ohd Mungolian Mix" - not sure what this track is, I think it might be a remix of LSB's "Original Highway Delight", the original of which I haven't heard, but was out recently on 12" on Eskimo.

But just play it, it's this astonishingly huge psychedelic italo-disco track, with bona fide ridiculous high-pitched vocals lurking somewhere towards the end. I can't stop listening to it! Who the fuck are these guys?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Our new heroes?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

tsk ned now I sound like the street teamer engaging in stealth marketing.

But yes! I dunno. Depends. Do they do more mind-expanding disco than these 2 remixes?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I really like that kreeps remix of theirs.

I nearly bumped this thread meself as there's a lindstrom comp called it's a feedelity affair coming out, comprising most of the 12" releases.

― genital hyphys (haitch), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

excellent, tim

― glen kim is fucking me over (vahid), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

the"mungolian" thing is all "flash gordon" references, right??

― glen kim is fucking me over (vahid), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I am playing this loud at work. Good thing all the noon-time swimmers already came in.

*snaps fingers*

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Seconding the love for the Kreeps remix - I think Ronan wrote about for Stylus. Also know they did a remix for Pizzy Yelliot on Trailer Park - in fact I think they are (or at least partly are) Pizzy Yelliot.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

tsk ned now I sound like the street teamer engaging in stealth marketing.

No no, that was meant to be positive! I hope.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

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