ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

I hope that /mu/ will respect my privacy.

it is certainly possible that the email came from an overzealous fan of Odd Future, and not from the group itself

that does seem possible

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so, what lessons did we learn from this entire phenomenon?

that people like to argue with each other?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH2_HW7HVvE

can't wait for Earl's triumphant return next month

that people like to argue with each other?

― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fairly confident this is a constant on ilx & this thread doesnt draw attention to that more than most

was the point of this revive to fan the flames again?

cuz if so, let me grab my deck chair real quick

why don't you start by telling us what "lessons" you learned

don't think i learned any lessons as such tbh

hmmm let's see

we also learned that it's possible to still stage dive with a broken foot

i learned that critics really fetishize teenagers

we learned that steve albini prefers his airport shuttle rides as quiet as possible

yup. teenage BOYS

we learned that mos def likes to say "swag"

you'd think soulja boy's sputtering grasps for relevancy, or bow wow's nonexistence, or the fact that all of the dominant rappers right now are, at the youngest, in their late 20s, might mean something, yet i feel like writers just chase new artists, and forget them when they actually develop.

tie in with 'firsties' but its really started to infect hip hop now

we learned that the website tumblr can be an effective means of distributing music to your fans

j0rdan are you feeling defensive itt

i feel like rap writers are really overly obsessed with hype and popularity atm, or maybe just SEO

obsession with youthful performers has dominated popular music since, what, the 50s at least...?

well, that's culture in general.

i would argue that lots of writers are confusing "New Artists" with "New Stories" which aren't actually the same thing

what would i be feeling defensive about

obsession with youthful performers has dominated popular music since, what, the 50s at least...?

― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:51 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm not talking about the public's obsession with young pretty faces, i'm talking about critics' obsession w/ image over music. the most popular rappers out right now...Drake is on the young side, in his mid-20s. Ross has to be well into his 30s. Jay is what, 40? Kanye, 30s, T.I., probably around 30, Jeezy, probably around 30. Gucci, into his 30s.

etc

take it to the lana del rey thread

what would i be feeling defensive about

― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i would say you've pulled back a bit from your earlier enthusiasm, i thought maybe thats why your posts were primarily joeks about why we havent really learned anything

we learned that magazine editors will put controversial artists on the covers of their magazines

we learned that the website tumblr can be an effective means of distributing music to your fans

― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:49 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

only white fans though http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

judging from all the year-end polls everybody has pulled back from their earlier enthusiasm about these corny little shits. but it's pretty hilarious how deej wants SO BAD to make a clusterfuck right now.

i still think they put out a lot of good music... they haven't really released all that much since the big hype wave broke anyway. 'earl' is still an amazing album and the mellowhype record is still very good.

the tyler record was overly long and just not that great... it's not really uncommon for an artist to really gain popularity in the real world while falling out of favor critically

they're first 'major label release' is coming out in a few months and i guess we'll see if earl ever puts anything out

and "yonkers" was seen as one of the top rap songs of the year

judging from all the year-end polls everybody has pulled back from their earlier enthusiasm about these corny little shits. but it's pretty hilarious how deej wants SO BAD to make a clusterfuck right now.

― some dude, Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually i do kind of want to talk about hype cycles & etc. in general. there are a lot of young artists getting written up in various places now & I'm kind of wary of it all, feel like lots of people are trying to discover their own odd future's

tyler's album really allowed for a huge feedback loop critically even tho their careers are kind of progressing at a normal, if not a tad slow, pace

they're still touring all over the country/world and this new tour they're doing w/ a pop up shop in every city is pretty brilliant imo from a marketing and sales standpoint, i'm surprised more ppl aren't talking about that aspect of it

you sound like carles right now, just for the record xp

ok

i mean, i'm being serious & putting my voice up front when i say this stuff, i'm not hiding behind a mask of does he really mean it so i don't think that really describes me here at all

i'm not even sure it's hype cycles in this case

i def love the early mixtapes and lots of other stuff...but then the tyler album that was gonna be their "breakout"...just wasn't all that good

it all might have been different if earl had been around and was the first out the gate with a "proper" album

tyler just isn't that great of a rapper

but overall, they just seem like an underground group and i don't think the way they do things was gonna make them like a for real commercial force like drake or rick ross or w/e

i think part of this is just like, i don't really find 18 year olds to be all that interesting or capable of translating what makes them interesting into rap music very often. maybe this is about me getting older, but there's a reason i like when artists get a chance to grow & mature, and why I think Big K.R.I.T. is just starting to come into his own style, or why i like the cool kids & used to think they were bad, and why i'm drawn to a 29 year old rapper like boldy james over someone like tyler. its just an artistic sensibility that feels less juvenile

didn't we all say this stuff a few months ago?

deej hanging this on a "teenagers just don't make good rap music" hobbyhorse is some sad shit

i dont think teens dont make good rap music, that's absurd

did we talk about this a few months ago? where?

some dude hanging onto his 'im going to try to cause a clusterfuck with deej' hobbyhorse is a lot more depressing imo

but overall, they just seem like an underground group and i don't think the way they do things was gonna make them like a for real commercial force like drake or rick ross or w/e

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:03 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sure, but that's not what everyone was saying about them months ago, or even last month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHFkydc5CUA

I am not everyone! I am not a hip hop blogger! I am a man!

in march

• new album
• tour
• adult swim cartoon

j/k ;)

and why i'm drawn to a 29 year old rapper like boldy james over someone like tyler. its just an artistic sensibility that feels less juvenile

lol u old

(me too)

i think part of this is just like, i don't really find 18 year olds to be all that interesting or capable of translating what makes them interesting into rap music very often. maybe this is about me getting older, but there's a reason i like when artists get a chance to grow & mature, and why I think Big K.R.I.T. is just starting to come into his own style, or why i like the cool kids & used to think they were bad, and why i'm drawn to a 29 year old rapper like boldy james over someone like tyler. its just an artistic sensibility that feels less juvenile

as a dude who's a couple years older than you let me just say you can synthesize these two approaches i.e. it's incontestably the case that young dudes bring a degree of fire & newness that is the exclusive domain of youth & it's always exciting when it's on point, but as you mature you also learn to listen for other things, like depth of expression etc. but c'mon man 18 year olds do amazing shit all the time and it's awesome. however (and this an error lots of old dudes make) just because it's young & irritating that doesn't mean it's any good