WAKA

i wouldn't really call it 'amateurish,' just ... it is what it is. rhythms dont have to be 'intricate' or w/e, or consciously considered, even, to be effective or do what they need to to attract a listeners attention. your distinction seems arbitrary

well yeah if we can only talk about whether his beats are distinctive and nothing else than i'll say i don't think they are

thats ... crazy though. if you cant tell a luger beat (or a luger-imitator) a mile away....

well if he had just had that one hit then yeah I'd agree with you. but since he made an entire album with a distinct sound that didn't vary too much within his parameters, and has made hits for other artists using that exact same sound palette, then yeah I'd say he's laid claim to that 'style' in narrow terms, even though countless southern rap producers have done beats in that style before.

he didn't invent low horn riffs, or even stuttering hi-hats, though. obviously certain things are more common in his beats and his imitators' beats, but nothing that wasn't in the air before that. (xpost)

i mean the fact that i've seen people randomly credit songs like "o let's do it" and "lose my mind" to him makes me think that all the talk about how unmistakable his style is is kinda fronting tbh

'lose my mind' is a really luger-ish imitation tho

people say lil lody beats sound like luger but thats because they try to sound like luger

ppl only say 'o lets do it' is him because its waka's breakthrough, but it sounds nothing like the typical luger track

he definitely has a sound, regardless of whether or not it's pioneering in any way (i could go both ways on that) but it's without a doubt reigned over hip hop for over a year, he's definitely a notable producer

i think 'pioneering' is kind of meaningless, who's really 'pioneering' -- he's popularized a distinctive flavor of an already-popular sound, and popularized that toddering rhythmic feel to such a degree that he's the go-to auteur behind it. i mean, i think he's overrated to a degree by ppl who ignore southern production bcuz hes an easy name to grab onto, but there's no question that the sound of contemporary rap is closer to his than to drumma boy's. do you know any lil lody-type dudes for drumma, who are trying to imitate 'no hands' instead of 'bmf'?

Maybe thats part of the appeal of luger's amateurism and why he's had such a huge impact -- drumma boy is TOO skilled, he's hard to imitate, whereas luger's amateurism makes him MORE influential because its an easier sound for other artists to replicate

the thing i'm most interested in is this tension between what lex wants to do and what rappers want from him, and whether or not rappers now are being less adventurous or open minded than in the neptues/timbaland days because of how tenuous the industry is right now

"lose my mind" was released before "hard in da paint" or "bmf"

Maybe thats part of the appeal of luger's amateurism and why he's had such a huge impact -- drumma boy is TOO skilled, he's hard to imitate, whereas luger's amateurism makes him MORE influential because its an easier sound for other artists to replicate

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, November 5, 2011 8:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, drumma boy and shawty redd and all the others have definitely had luger-style beats but they've also had plenty of other kinds

luger got big on one type of sound, he's been pigeonholed, hence the nyt article

i was surprised that he did "that way," and the somewhat atypical stuff like "grove st. party" is my favorite shit on the flockaveli, so i'm definitely good with him at least trying to get outside his signature sound.

ah i just listened to 'lose my mind' again, altho the structure / feel of it is similar to a luger beat the actual sound of the beat really is not luger-ish at all, texturally

it kinda has that lugerish stomp, but yeah it doesn't really sound like him. there's too much space in the beat.

honestly, in terms of the beat alone, "BMF" dwarfs "Lose My Mind," although Jeezy makes up for that to some degree. like, in a club, the luger beat just sounds 10x as huge

jeezy's energy is much larger than rick ross's, though

'lose my mind' isn't really a club beat tho, tempo is so slow

I would never have pegged 'lose my mind' as a luger beat in a million years tho

jeezy's energy is much larger than rick ross's, though

"larger" may be a poor choice of words when comparing anyone to rick ross

btw, I think I know the answer already but is ciroc any good

2. Ciroc: the world’s best ultra-premium vodka…enough said.

Kenan said "waka flocka skeet skeet" on SNL while you losers were liveblogging the A$AP Rocky tape

we liveblogged snl on the snl thread too fyi

xp damn, ilm street rap fans really falling out of touch with their roots

ive decided i dont like drake because he's not authentic and i prefer my rappers authentic. thoughts?

oops rong thread

is that a joke

idk i guess thats up 2 you

So Waka is opening for fucking Drake in the Bay Area. So conflicted...

i have a new co-worker named WAKA

(after getting a co-worker last year named LULU.)

at this rate i expect to be working with someone named GRIMES by summer

I went to school with a kid named Grimes (his last name)

http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/e/e5/Frank_Grimes_as_a_child.png

So Waka is opening for fucking Drake in the Bay Area. So conflicted...

go for WAKA, leave before drake

stay for drake, take pictures for the drake thread

https://p.twimg.com/Aos6TWXCEAEA64F.jpg

: o

: o

― come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Friday, March 23, 2012 9:52 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is he smashing your head with an empty container of hummus?

it was full :(

oh, lol

https://p.twimg.com/Aos5_lvCMAERdwP.jpg

oh my god

nice pomplamoose tshirt

i lold

beard + tied up dreads is a good look on waka

so how did this come to be

we got in a fight over pita chips