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whatever byron

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

you're right though - boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces = the best journalism you'll ever read, esp with musicians who god knows definitely deserve respect and have interesting things to say.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

is the article still online anywhere, the links above seem busted

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

ethan there's a gulf of difference between making shit up and being needlessly deferential as i am sure you know.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

what about being needlessly dickish and getting everything wrong?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pERKO8MDWugJ:www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0609,sylvester,72342,15.html+sylvester+voice+strauss&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Agree that pulling it down was an error in judgment. It's not the crime, it's the coverup, etc...

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

where the fuck did i praise 'boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces'?

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

"captain save-a-hack" haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realize Blount and Jess had so much respect for Riff Raff interviews.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

haha i won't start naming who i think nick is a better writer than when he tries

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

i highly doubt any egos will be bruised

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

"when he tries"

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

failing to kiss musicians' asses is hardly a crime

we're drafting legislation though

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

i respected his interviews more than the 'plz plz get me out of the rockcrit ghetto' lifestyle zeitgeist 'i saw a hipster in a gym' sub-gladwell crap. they made better reading than the groupie/publicist sycophancy trife is upholding as a model. suzy slobjobs writ large as hardly something to aspire to.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

its one thing to 'break the rules' to be disrespectful to kanye or paul mccartney or some other asshole the press takes seriously, but we're talking about a new york hipster ivy league asshole shitting on a member of dem franchize boyz, dehumanized to the point of not even naming him. yeah bout time somebody took franchize down a notch!! thank god someone was brave enough to put the 'celebrity fluff pieces' on dem franchize boyz to an end!! hey maybe dude actually had something to say, or maybe another rapper might have something interesting to say, but we'll never know cuz nick gives every interview subject the same disrespect, infantilization & self-serving horseshit

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i've ever read a rekkerd review by the dude. i only know him from the fake voice blog. i will have to investigate.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

blount where am i upholding 'groupie synchophancy'?? ive personally told interview subjects i think they should do more than glorified drug raps, more than sylvester's ever asked

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

whatever suzy

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

perpePUA

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

to be fair boring groupie puffpieces probably are a good career move if you want to stay just a music 'writer' and you're more concerned with making yr subjects happy than yr readers. you can make a living at it definitely.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

would you rather see dick cheney have an exclusive sitdown interview w/ seymour hersh or ted rall? is the worth of journalism measured in who can say 'fuck off' the loudest??

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

next, people are gonna be telling me that catucci doesn't actually watch all that porn! (i kid, nick, if yoo r a lurker, i know yoo watch tonz of porn and i love you)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

ted maul?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

would you rather see dick cheney have a sitdown with seymour hersh or fred barnes? is the worth of journalism measured in who can slurpslurp the loudest?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

i cant believe im being accused of being a careerist compared to NICK SYLVESTER! do inane questions & smarmy self-obsession count as hard-hitting journalism now?? believe it or not sometimes ppl actually say interesting things when you treat them respectfully instead of mocking them outright

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

and, as many other ppl have noted, making up quotes

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm with ethan, I've never understood the mindset that sez "the only good interviewer is a TOUGH interviewer" (at least where music writing's concerned) - though mark s has interesting things to say on this subject w/r/t john lydon & possibly others

anyhow ethan isn't advocating sycophancy & doesn't practice it, he rather seems to take a highly controversial "make your interview subjects comfortable" stance & that hardly amounts to blowing yr subjects

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

really the only groupie/publicists i see in this thread are the sylvester fan club pretending its just all a big misunderstanding/genius move on the part of the new messiah

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

blount claims everyone is a careerist for chrissakes. i guess miccio was a careerist in the end but it turned out to be propane and propane accessories.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

and most of my interviews in the past year & a half are for local mags like crunk, get'em, etc w/ no online content or distribution outside the south, i recognize my early pieces come off kinda charlie & the choc factory-ish but i think ive gotten alot better w/ this shit - oddly enough for a cynical opportunist i havent been posting them online or pitching them to village voice tho!

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:50 (twenty years ago)

ethan, where can i read your stuff?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

you should do a blog for get'em

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

you can interview fall out boy and hawthorne heights and make up quotes

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

lol @ reverse racism

im going to lunch now

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

PDRANK: KANYE CALLED YOU "THE WHITE CRUNK." DO YOU LIKE WHITE CHOCOLATE?

ALEX KAPRANOS: YES, WE LIKE WHITE CHOCOLATE.

PDRANK: HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A SLAVE?

ALEX KAPRANOS: ...

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

i have a Black Crunky chocolate bar from Japan.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:55 (twenty years ago)

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/43/f6/7bea8f2c497ec8bbc30216620d38c155.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

PDRANK: DO YOU LIKE "BLACK CRUNKY" CHOCOLATE BAR FROM JAPAN?

FRITZ WOLLNER: YES I LIKE BLACK CRUNKY CHOCOLATE BAR FROM JAPAN.

PDRANK: DO YOU ALSO ENJOY ANAL SEX?

FRITZ WOLLNER: ...

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

haha i am beginning to understand what the appeal of this was for nick

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

for the record, i never said "...". Jess is suspended.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

i think blount's just suffering from guilt by association

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

otm.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Artists will be more likely to share exceptional/suprising/interesting things with you if you make them comfortable.

When an artist tells you, "I didn't think I'd ever talk about that," it's a lot more rewarding than being on the offensive end of some some gonzo gotcha

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

yeah nick's much loved "...." response offers nothing journalistically

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

aidin vaziri pulls off both, which is pretty impressive, which is why you shouldn't compare him to nick

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

hack: 'i luv writing fawning puffpieces about you'

subject: 'i luv it when you write fawning puffpieces about me'

hack: 'are you comfortable?'

subject: 'a little lower'

hack: 'how's that?'

subject: 'yeah that's it, that's the spot'

hack: 'when's yr new record drop?'

WHAT GREAT 'JOURNALISM'

to be fair it is better than 'i saw hipster in a gym'.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

o vaziri's MUCH better in every way than nick, just that that seemed very much the style he was biting. definitely preferable to the ethan/suzy school of questioning by which definition stewardesses and waiters count as hardhitting journalists.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031015/w2.jpg

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

i have no idea why you're pulling this bullshit with ethan, blount

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

after all this time on ilm?

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

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