oh, Rihanna is featured on a song?
― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
Of note!:
Lou Reed and Metallica have just released this year’s frontrunner for strangest musical collaboration: Lulu, a 10-song album inspired by the work of German Expressionist playwright Frank Wedekind. We get reactions from Maura Johnston of the Village Voice and Phil Freeman, music writer and editor of RoadRunnerRecords.com. Plus, Maura and Phil help us explore unusual musical partnerships – and they offer their picks of the good and not so good.
(Sneak in a mention of the ILX precovers and happiness will be eternal.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
This will be at 2 pm Eastern Time, FWIW.
i think niels is right about most people not really being acquainted with lou's solo career. the 70s, sure, maybe touchstones like new york or drella later, but otherwise, lou's output for the past 25 years or so isn't much listened to. feel like in order to deal with lulu, you should be at least aware of his (admittedly pretty flawed) later period stuff. lulu didn't come out of nowhere -- he was doing this kind of really unpleasant, twisted/sexual lyrical thing all the way back to "like a possum" and "rock minuet". not that he didn't deal with that type of thing before, but it seems to me those songs are the beginning of what he's doing now...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
I think also he's upped the performance art quotient significantly over time, and Lulu should be understood as fitting into that vein of work.
Looking forward to Hetfield's tai chi demonstrations when they play live...
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
Rob Trujillo squat-stomping around with an electric viola
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
Lars removes his cymbals, plays standing up
kirk is already sterling-like in his quiet guitar majesty, obvs. Hetfield's Nico/Gerald Malanga.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Nico would be a fine voice for Lulu.
Guessing that when Reed wrote the lyrics for Robert Wilson, he meant for a gal to sing them.
― your way better (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
I used to live a couple blocks from Malanga. He was heavy and walking with a cane. No more whip dancing for him. Time's a bitch.
― thirdalternative, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
is that Letterman performance where Lou's only percussionist was a dude wearing leather pants and slapping his thighs on YouTube?
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
really like the allmusic review, seems like the first one that really tries to honestly engage w/lulu (at the same time not ignoring it's flaws)
this is probably the closest to my feelings on the record (though i kinda find hetfield loveable)
http://allmusic.com/album/lulu-r2311356/review
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EBpyyEI5I&feature=related
ecstasy is a pretty cool album tbh
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
xp good review. Interesting suggestions for future collabs too: Sunn0)))! Jesus Lizard! Shellac!
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
That Phil/Maura talk is happening now BTW.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
It was strange listening to actual thing last night after all the speculating and pre-tributing. Allmusic review ia def closest to my feelings about right now, though I think I like more? I don't know, man it is some weird thing.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
I'd like to hear The Hold Steady cover "Brandenburg Gate."
― your way better (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
relevant twitter hastag #LouAtStarbucks
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
I don't really like Lou Reed or his voice in particular, but this guy from Roadrunner Records saying that "Lou Reed never had a good voice" is just unreal.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
Reed's singing was great until the '80s.
― thirdalternative, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
OTOH this Phil guy is claiming that the Judgment Night soundtrack holds up, which I respect.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
"This Phil guy" is noted ILM poster and metal man unperson.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
Ah I see his comments upthread regarding never getting Lou or the Velvets.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
literally 10 minutes before tylerw's post I was in a starbucks and saw I guy I thought was Lou Reed.
~cosmic~
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
yesterday was LULU day, but I didn't know November was going to be LULU month!
highlight: He just came back with another scone (blueberry?). Sitting back down. He looked at me and shook his head derisively. #LouAtStarbucks
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Mustaine indeed wins for once, Megadeth's new album is going to sell nearly four times that of Lulu.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but every person that bought lulu is going to form a band
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
m@tt the correct term is "mob"
― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but every person that bought lulu is going to form a band cover it
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
every person that bought lulu is going to heaven
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
You know, as horrible as most people think this album is, Louloutallica have managed to create a fucking event album that is getting talked about.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Sort of. (People in 'real life' I have heard talking about this album outside of ILXors = zero, zip, nada.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
awesome comment on facebook about a hammett interview: This puts all the haters to shame stating cliff would roll in his grave.... as kirk states that he found velvet revolver through cliff...tisk tisk
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
Different experiences I suppose, but I've heard quite a few people talking about this out and about! Latest example was kids at the coffee shop this morning going on and on about it. Plus I've seen tons of my facebook friends that are usually those "ten album a year" folks going on and on about this.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
It's been kinda neat hearing about Lou Reed from people I know who don't spend a lot of time thinking about Lou Reed
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
Tons of discussion about this record around the office, but also lots of VU-aware folks in my office so ymmv
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
If I wasn't such a VU stan, I'd almost envy people who know him as the "Walk On The Wild Side" guy revered by nerds, who shows up every once in a while on TV singly horribly amid a cast of weirdos.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
Every single IRL person I have discussed this with - including people who are active music fans - had no clue what I was talking about/had never heard of it.
― truth fact and correct (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
i can definitely understand the bewilderment among 'tallica fans who know next to nothing about him. god, i think about lou reed so much.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
lou should make an album with the "heart of gold" guy revered by nerds, who shows up every once in a while on TV singly horribly (Though usually solo or with some generic old farts - no tai chi or pants slappers)
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.bigozine6.com/TRKK/VAvancouver/VAvancouver202.mp3
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
lol I'm in class and had google to "lou reed neil young vancouver" to find out what that might be
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
the internet is magic. i was sort of excited to hear that, but lou kinda blows it. song does not need bellowing.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
i recently heard lou reed's "jealous guy" so I can guess
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
oooooh you know you make me jealoussssss!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe he can reteam with Clive Davis for The Great American Shoutbook
― da croupier, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
Lou Reed Shouts The Classics
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
haha is that the saturday night live band backing him up?
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
maybe? doesn't hal willner do that band?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
lol i was just joking but you may be right!
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)