I inexplicably forgot to include "First Time" on my ballot, where it would have placed around, well, #3. Relieved that it didnt affect the rankings.....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW63vnU7yPI
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think I realized "This Is Hardcore" was so beloved; I had the impression it was just me!
― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
I *adore* TIH, personally. I've no time for Common People, having heard it a thousand times. It's great, yes - but not anymore, to me.
#1 - COMMON PEOPLE - 21 votes, five #1s, 641 points
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't vote for it. Brilliant lyric, but I'm sick of everything else. This Is Hardcore was my #1 - I'd hoped it might just pip it.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
Actually kind of surprised at how well that did.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
Common People, that is.
Here's the full list!
Rank Row Labels # 1 Votes Sum of Score115 I Never Said I Was Deep 0 11114 Grandfather's Nursery 0 11113 Don't You Want Me Anymore? 0 11112 Angela 0 11111 Weeds II 0 12110 Further Complications 0 12109 Blue Glow 0 12108 Aborigine 0 12107 We Can Dance Again 0 13106 Being Followed Home 0 13105 Fairground 0 15104 Heavy Weather 0 16103 Billy Jack 0 16102 Two Little Boys 0 17101 Last Day of the Miners' Strike 0 18100 97 Lovers 0 1899 You're In My Eyes (Discosong) 0 2098 We Are the Boyz 0 2097 tv movie 0 2096 Last Man in Space 0 2095 Fuckingsong 0 2094 We Love Life 0 2193 They Suffocate At Night 0 2192 The 1st Man In Space 0 2191 Morning Dew (cover) 0 2290 PTA 0 2389 Maureen 0 2488 Don't You Know 0 2487 Deep Fried in Kelvin 0 2486 You're A Nightmare 0 2585 Separations 0 2584 Someone Like The Moon 0 2783 Birds in Your Garden 0 2982 Everybody's Problem 0 3081 The Birds in Your Garden 0 3180 Roadkill 0 3179 My Lighthouse 0 3378 Cocaine Socialism 0 3577 The Facts Of Life (The Chocolate Layers Remix) 0 3676 I Love Life 0 3675 Happy Endings 0 3874 The Babysitter 0 3973 Love Love 0 4072 I Will Kill Again 1 4071 Death Goes to the Disco 0 4270 Sylvia 0 4569 I'm A Man 0 4668 First Man in Space 0 4867 Dogs are Everywhere 0 5066 David's Last Summer 1 5165 Street Lites 0 5264 Stacks 0 5263 She's Dead 0 5262 Big Julie 0 5461 The Day After The Revolution 0 5560 Wishful Thinking 0 5659 Seductive Barry 0 5858 Ciao! 0 5957 Walk like a Panther 0 6256 Set the Controls for the Heart of the Pelvis 0 6355 Synchronize 1 6554 Have You Seen Her Lately? 0 6753 Sliding Through Life On Charm 0 7252 Monday Morning 0 7451 Weeds 0 7650 Love is Blind 0 7749 Ansaphone 0 7748 Styloroc (Nights of Suburbia) 0 8547 Little Girl (with Blue Eyes) 0 8846 Bar Italia 0 8845 Running the World 0 9144 I Want You 0 9143 Pencil Skirt 0 9642 Party Hard 0 9641 Live Bed Show 0 9640 Don't Let Him Waste Your Time 0 9739 Glory Days 0 10138 Inside Susan 0 10737 Mile End 0 11436 Blue Girls 0 11635 The Night that Minnie Temperley Died 0 12434 Countdown 0 12433 Joyriders 0 13832 Death II 1 14331 Bad Cover Version 0 15030 Sunrise 0 16129 Wickerman 1 16328 Sheffield: Sex City 0 16627 His 'n' Hers 1 17326 The Trees 1 17425 O.U. (Gone Gone) 1 18924 Your Sister's Clothes 0 19623 Dishes 1 19722 Like A Friend 1 21121 She's A Lady 0 22220 Sorted for E's & Wizz 0 22519 The Fear 1 22918 My Legendary Girlfriend 1 23317 A Little Soul 0 24116 Mis-Shapes 0 24215 I Spy 1 24714 Acrylic Afternoons 0 25713 F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E. 0 26412 Help The Aged 0 27911 Underwear 0 29610 Lipgloss 0 3099 Razzmatazz 0 3198 Something Changed 1 3267 Seconds 2 3276 Disco 2000 2 3655 Babies 2 4744 Pink Glove 3 4743 Do You Remember The First Time? 0 4772 This Is Hardcore 2 5591 Common People 5 641
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, that was a great clue photo. Common People wasn't on my ballot. I still like it after all these years, but I've just heard it too many times, and I think Pulp have plenty of songs that are just as good or better.
― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
Ironically - Seductive Barry and Ciao!, which I was manically pulling for, in with a bullet at ...59 and 58.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
"Ansaphone" and "Running the World" were top 50. That's pretty good.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
oh dammit, if I'd voted I MIGHT have been able to get "Seductive Barry" onto the countdown
― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks Alicia! I was feeling inspired :)
Bar Italia is one I definitely thought would place higher.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Great poll, thanks for running it!
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, Cheers Lex!!!
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, this was fun!
― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah thanks for putting this together, the clues were a lot of fun.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for playing along! I had fun watching the guesses roll in!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks Lex!
I've gone through plenty of love/hate/bored cycles with Common People, but I couldn't imagine not voting for it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
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Same minus the hate. I always always love it but do get bored of it sometimes. That said, if I'd chosen anything else as my #1 I would have been lying to myself and the world.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
Gukbe otm upthread, the lyrics to CP thread woke me up to it again after years where it had felt played out & you know an event to be dreaded when heard in a room full of ppl liable to sing along. The 'who is this narrator anyway? What's he so angry abt?' questions made CP & other things breathe a bit - I think I'd once just enjoyed triumph-of-the-loser identification that he invites, but some of JC's best years' songwriting nods at the latent cockfarmer: spiteful, posturing, narcissistic, resentful – the way losers triumphant can be.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
& yes THANK YOU Lex. That really enlivened a couple of long, hopeless days at work.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sad now! I missed that Common People thread.
Here are just the #1s, for reference. I can see E's point about lying to yourself if it's not your #1 - that's definitely how I *found* Pulp, but it's not one I ever put on anymore. That said, I rarely change it if it does come on.
Rank Row Labels # 1 Sum of Score72 I Will Kill Again 1 4066 David's Last Summer 1 5155 Synchronize 1 6532 Death II 1 14329 Wickerman 1 16327 His 'n' Hers 1 17326 The Trees 1 17425 O.U. (Gone Gone) 1 18923 Dishes 1 19722 Like A Friend 1 21119 The Fear 1 22918 My Legendary Girlfriend 1 23315 I Spy 1 2478 Something Changed 1 3267 Seconds 2 3276 Disco 2000 2 3654 Pink Glove 3 4745 Babies 2 4742 This Is Hardcore 2 5591 Common People 5 641
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Oh. I don't know if there's been talk about this elsewhere, but seems sensible to ask here - anyone read Owen Hatherley's recent book on Pulp? Any good?
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I really want to, but I haven't yet. I need to order that at some point.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
encarta, wow
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
That Common People Lyrics/Discussion Thread
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
I found Pulp pretty late to the game because it was either 1997 or 8 when I first heard them. A boy in my writing class took me to a brit pop night on the top floor of a a long since closed down rock club on St. Marks Pl. in NYC. It was very late and near closing when the DJ played "Do You Remember the First Time" and I pretty much thought it was the greatest thing I'd ever heard. I pulled him close and yelled in his ear over the music "Who is this?! I LOVE it!". I still remember exactly how awesome and happy I felt dancing to that song in that moment. The next day I went out and bought everything I could find.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
I got into them around that time a well, in 1998 when I saw the video for "This is Hardcore" on 120 Minutes. Around that time my parents had divorced and my father bought a mustang convertible and got a 26 year old girlfriend and I was all "lol Help the Aged" so I got him the album for Christmas.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
Then I got Different Class and to my teenage brain that was some sexy shit
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha.. reading that CP thread now. Kinda happy I missed it the first time it seems! (I grew up poor; I would surely have ended up butting heads against KDT)
My Pulp story is that my whole class adored Common People when it came out, and I was all "pfft, I hate popular music." Then the hype faded and I heard Disco 2000 and thought wait, maybe these guys are for me. So I got Different Class and the next thing I was able to find was the DYRTFT? single (with Street Lights, the Babysitter). God, the pre-mp3s days in Canada were so dismal - I must've spent $20 on those three songs alone. I scoured Toronto and eventually got everything except It - still don't have it! But I did find mp3s or something along the way. Then one day Ned sent me a CD-R of live songs and rarities and whatnot, and made my life!!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
(Class was not a pun - it was my grade eight class!)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
A whole class full of kids liked "Common People" in Canada? You guys had it all sorted out there. I was scowering malls for import singles in Alabama.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Well, we were Gifted.. so we were the Mis-Shapes of the school. I remember we used to bring a TV into our classroom during lunches and watch music videos that people had taped off of Much Music, and that was a big hit.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, "hate" is too strong a word, I never hated CP but I bored of it to the point that I started resenting it (as silly as this may sound) for getting all the attention when it was only the 7th or 8th best song on DC. I still prefer "Disco 2000" or "Something Changed" on most days but CP is the essence of DC and I realized I'd be kidding myself if I tried to argue that they wrote any more than a small handful of better songs.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
"Babies" would have been my #1 if I'd voted, now wish I had!
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
I was one of the two who put "Seconds" at #1. I first heard and liked "Do You Remember The First Time?" when I saw the video, about a year later "Common People" was everywhere and a girl I knew lent me a taped copy of it at a party where I got drunk for the first time, rode an inflatable whale down a flight of stairs and jumped in a pool fully clothed and had my first kiss to boot. Took the tape home, realised that 10 of the other 11 songs were JUST AS GOOD (Never liked "Pencil Skirt" as much as the others though), gave it back, and was fortunate enough to grab a copy of "Different Class" with the Second Class B-sides CD.
"Seconds" was the one that completely slayed me and told me to buy all their records.
― unskinny blap (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Nice work Lex!
I guess "Babies" was my "Common People" then. The former was the first Pulp track I ever knowingly heard (it, and then "Do You Remember..." were their first tracks to get major airplay here) and I'd be lying to myself if I'd not voted it #1.
Pleased to see that the only other track I could have honestly put at #1, "Little Girl (With Blue Eyes)", was not all that far out of contention.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
Nice poll with unpredictable results. Thanks Lex.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
"Mis-Shapes" seems really shockingly low to me!
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
i mean fun poll, obv, thank you for doing it -- that's just the first thing i thought looking at the final lineup
Meaning you thought it would do better, right? Me too
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
I had a lot of fun bringing a little "Seductive Barry" boosterism to the results!
― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
it was in my top 10!
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - My ballot is on my work computer but I'm nearly certain it was in mine too.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
Lex, thanks so much for doing this in such an enthused way. I was smiling all the way to number 1, thanks a lot! :)
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
This may be true of others as well, but I noticed that E's ballot had all top five songs in the top five-she just switched around the order of do you remember the first time and babies IIRC. Nicely done!!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
And you are almost definitely welcome. I had so much fun doing this!
*all most not almost lol
lol
I said I knew my choices were obvious!
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link