Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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"He's wearing rose-colored glasses instead of swastikas, therefore it's uncriticizable."

HI DERE, Thursday, 29 November 2007 06:33 (eighteen years ago)

lol swinburning its pretty easy to mistake the comments of someone who "is in love with a thing that never really existed" based on a romantic concept of people- or nationhood with a member of the national front because, uh, the national front is all about the romanticization of a people or nation that never really existed in the way they think of it.

max, Thursday, 29 November 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

see: fascism.

max, Thursday, 29 November 2007 06:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, this all worked for Eric Clapton, didn't it?

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:08 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I think Dom is jealous that Morrissey has zinged the NME about ten million times and he never will.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have no idea if he's a racist or not - but he did the smart thing in getting out of England. It's a shithole full of angry, repressed, frustrated, alcoholic, ill-educated people crammed on to part of a tiny island. Give me the US, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, or Scotland any day.

-- Emily S., Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:54 (8 hours ago) Link

now this i can get behind, except the last sentence.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

he's not objecting to immigration per se, he's objecting to the perceived specific consequences of immigration in England (or so i suspect).

-- blueski, Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Link

eh?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

Next year on ILM: Morrissey releases album of Prussian Blue covers. "Clearly ironic/whimsical/nah nah not listening" claim ILMers.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Prussian Blue are just nostalgic for an era when Jews _were_ in gas chambers, they're not saying that they'd like to go back to that time. God, listen to the lyrics in context.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

Prussian Blue are just trolling black people duh.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

England is a memory now. Other countries have held on to their basic identity, yet it seems to me that England was thrown away

http://images.scotsman.com/2002/05/05/0505bnpb.jpg

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:29 (eighteen years ago)

London Bee Enn Pea head in "gay porn film" hilarity

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

Sheila take a, sheila take a bow
Throw your homework onto the fire
Come out and find the one that you love
Come out and find the one you love

http://ict.org.il/var/119/52807-Nazi_Book_Burning.jpg

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

Man, the only reason to get involved with the BNP is for the whole D/S scene.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

said Morrissey exclusively in the NME this week.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/mitfords.jpg

Some girls are bigger than others

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'd let the Mitford sisters kristal my nacht any time they want, hey guyz?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

Dood, it's that whole Posh Women Be Dirty thang again.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

We should have a poll on which other celebrities could come out with "I hate immigration" and have ILMers falling over themselves to defend him.

My vote = Kylie.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

Burial

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

paris hilton

oh, wait.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

cheryl cole

oh, wait

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

That dude from Savage Garden

Maybe more of a Poptimists thing, that.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

I feel a Pole coming on.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

Roald Dahl S/D

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

Thing is, I was listening to George Formby the other day, and nobody's gonna trump him for racists-who-made-the-best-music

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

From what I understand, for all the comedy Chinese stereotypes he made money off of, George's politics were pretty forward thinking.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

Formby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morrissey

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

^^^4-4-2

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

I read this in Sainsbury's last night. There wasn't much to it. Mozzer's comments indefensible really, but at the same time I can't be arsed being bothered about them. Meanwhile, a few pages later is a full page advert announcing the fact that Mozzer's Roundhouse residency has sold out.

I liked the bit in the interview about how because of the internet, everyone's a reporter nowadays. I mean, who on earth is he talking about?

PJ Miller, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

But the change in England is so rapid compared to the change in any other country. If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent

Funnily enough, he wouldn't have heard one in his own house when he was growing up as both his parents were IRISH and IMMIGRANTS. Fucking dickhead.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

Next week in NME: Zucchero moans about the dilution of Italian culture by shit indie expats from the UK.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, at least Ray Davies still lives in Britain! He can boohoo about penny farthings, chimbley sweeps and powdered eggs from day-to-day experience.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

Also when he goes to America he gets shot so this may colour his opinion of abroad.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

Racist?
Bengali In Platforms - questionable, I put it down to bad phrasing myself.
National Front Disco - no
Asian Rut - no, but arguably quite naieve.
Did anyone see Andrew Collins pop up on the SOTCAA forum? He basically said the whole Morrissey = racist thing was the result of a slow news day and a misjudged gesture by Moz himself...

-- DG, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Andrew Collins and SOTCAA = the kind of British culture we must do our utmost to save

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

I find them quaint and amusing. But they are a memory now.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

SOTCAA was the only kind of British culture worth saving.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

Some of the Patos Are Amusing

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

Well put.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them? That works really well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

TBF you can't move on French radio for Hip Hop tho.

Most of it about how shit it is being black in France.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Somebody needs to break into his kitchen and see if he has a Ronaldinho bottle opener. That would clear up straight away whether he's racist or not.

aldo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them?

You mean in the French national football team?

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Saying "immigrants are diluting our culture" kinda clears up whether he's racist or not.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

You mean in the French national football team?

Elephant in room.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

World Cups and Euro Championships in trophy cabinet

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

In my country, immigrants are diluting our culture. For the better.

Please pass judgement on me asap, kthx.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

1p3 is not a country
the noise board are not immigrants

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

I say arrest Noizers and send them where they came from. 1p3 for the 1p3ers!

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)


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