Oh yes these are most certainly manifestos.
Once an honest man could go from sunrise to its setWithout encountering agents of his state or governmentBut a sorry cloud of tyranny has fallen across the landBrought on by hollow men, who did not understandThat for centuries our forefather have fought and often diedTo keep themselves unto themselves, to fight the rising tideAnd that if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
ah, it's like the Levellers never came into their inheritances and took up seats in the House of Lords
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
And that if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
Conservative Party manifesto right there.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
I know what NV means. Normally I reserve disdain for artists but with Turner/Sheeran/Mumfords their passionate fans are actually more annoying for thinking this is any way profound and not ghastly and wrong.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
You've got a generation raised on the welfare state,Enjoyed all its benefits and did just great,But as soon as they were settled as the richest of the rich,They kicked away the ladder, told the rest of us that life's a bitch.
― antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:48 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
interesting definition of "us" here
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
A few things wrong with his history of the welfare state there.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
i blame his education
― mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
id never heard of him until today idk
― Vampyroteuthis Weeks (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
i hadn't heard of him until last night.
great days.
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
rockist git is a thoroughly unamerican pejorative it's like calling him an infernal bounder or sthing
― Vampyroteuthis Weeks (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFEa7pRO1o
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Infernal bounder would be taken as boosterism by any red blooded English person. Like, ah, gangsta for instance.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
if in the smallest battles we surrender to the stateWe enter in a darkness whence we never shall escape
so he sticks to the anarcho-syndicalist bits of the NHS, that's cool. This is my new most-hated music. Looking forward to my gf's tween daughter's inevitable move from her current Ed Sheeran fixation to this git. I accept that youth has to make its own mistakes.
Most I can say is that enjoy the awkwardness of the hmhb cover not coming off or making any sense to the audience, except one bloke at the back. Haven't punished self by watching shellac one yet.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
For a start, you can't bang on about "fuckin' rock'n'roll" and then pump out that kind of limp guitar pop
Yeah, I thought of that Mr. Show sketch about the rap musical with no rap.
― David T. T-Pain? I guess? (CharlieS), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
btw what's the deal w/ M@tt using the phrase "rockist git" in the title of this thread
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, October 21, 2011 6:39 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol i thought about asking if i was using it right! i mostly just wanted to convey that he was from the UK and get UK ppl to comment since i had never heard of this choad before and i figured he was a big deal over here...
basically i wanted stuff like that eton background and all that
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
upper mississippi sh@kedown tomorrow: "'Ere, what's this geezer up to? 'E's avin' a larf, innee?"
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, October 21, 2011 8:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oi mate....full stop.
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
you should just have called him a cunt in the thread title then we would have got it
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 21 October 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
had assumed this guy was american. guy in my work who listens to flogging molly and shit likes him. has a t-shirt with the black flag logo and frank turner written on it. eugh.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
also this is the only "i still believe" worth listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw3MO4E9gVA
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
You know I was WAITING for someone to reference that. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 October 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
OI MATES SOME PLAID SHIRT PONCE IS ALL OVER THE NEWSY WEWSIES, COVERING RISE ABOVE BY BLACK FLAAAAAG, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
^ Luke Haines lyrics
― oppet, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
I for one, would not be surprised if Mr Haines formed a band called Blood Sausage Taliban.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
up the irons!
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
damn jam in glasgow and Ned mindmelding sweaty sax guy...
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Turner would be a great name for a grillmaster.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus what a fucking horrible voice that man has
as you were
― how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 21 October 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
This is me speechless.
― Matt M., Saturday, 22 October 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfvPk4_hBdc
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 22 October 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
KeyboardsThe Hold Steady
ahahahaha
― |III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Saturday, 22 October 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
I now realise that the most stuck-up, pretentious dickheads I meet on my way through life are far more likely to achieve success than anyone else, because that's what audiences respond to. Why, I don't know, but there it is.
― |III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Saturday, 22 October 2011 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
somewhere - somewhere that's definitely not Wembley - New Model Army are crying :-(
― Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 22 October 2011 09:30 (twelve years ago) link
The keyboards part of that rant is funny because he pauses for half a beat, because he really doesn't believe in keyboards but he quick realized he has some sclump playing keys for him and he has to say it.
if the guy that comes out to play harmonica with the cutoff sleeves and trucker hat is english I don't even know what to say
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
I've not seen the clip but there's every chance that's Ben Patashnik editor of Rock Sound, who is, for the record, an extremely nice guy, as much as we have differing views on music.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 22 October 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Tutor on a music course I was in this morning told students "I'm really into Frank Turner at the moment". Chewed lump out of my lip.
― Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 November 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:55 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol missed this booming post
― We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 November 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link
this Voice of the Youth thankfully seems consigned to the backwater of public radio over here, along with most of our own homegrown "roots" doofuses.
but i'm still a little worried.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 4 November 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah hopefully he'll be like sub-shooter jennings big
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
THIS MACHINE WAS SUPPOSED TO KILL FASCISTS BUT IT'S JUST MAKING THEM SNARKY
― bendy, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
man I was really really hoping this would be a Brenda K Starr cover
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
wow. really wish I could un-see that video.
― dmr, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/frank-turner-interview-short-stories/
This is pretty old but... wau.
How comfortable are you having your name next to Relentless Energy?It’s fine. To be honest with you, I’m more comfortable with having that than having something that was state funded. As of my personally ideology, I’m much more comfortable with private companies than I am with something that basically backs up its funding with the threat of imprisonment. So I’d rather do this than something at the BBC.
In the film you say that you’re punk rock and you’ve come from DIY background. Do you think some people might question their enthusiasm for you when they see your face next to the Relentless brand?They might do. I can measure out in one hand exactly how much I give a shit. It’s their problem, not mine really. Delving into political philosophy here, but I get very frustrated with people who publically have issues with private companies and then have no problem at all with the state funding stuff. The bottom line is the British Film Council [sic] gets its money out of threat of violence towards citizens, which is why it’s infinitely worse than money that comes from some fizzy drink. At the end of the day, I don’t actually give a shit, but if you made me choose between those two methods I think that state funding is much more of a greater evil on society.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
boil this motherfucker alive
― electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
I know I certainly consider Sex Lives Of the Potato Men to be a cultural threat of violence, but not as much as Frank Turner's terrible music or thoughts.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
What a surprise, rich "anarchist" actually libertarian douchebag shocker
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
what does he mean about the violence?
― how's life, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
He means wah wah I don't like paying taxes
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Except for defence!
― ledge, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know why e.g. Billy Bragg is so tight w/ this fellow
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link