shit shit shit went out of my way to nominate Erik Jacobsen and even posted a sample clip and then forgot to vote for him. Doubt he'd have made the cut even with my vote though. Shame....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for Marley Marl, CC, Swizz Beatz, Prince. Should have voted for Whitfield, but I forgot about him! I've never even heard of these guys:
46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)41. TIE Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)
...I guess because they're all "rock" producers.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 20 October 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
Unfortunately, all too many "rock" fans don't know these rock producers either....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
Floyd did go back to Boyd for "See Emily Play", so I guess they would have kept with him had Syd (and Jenner etc) continued to be part of Floyd.
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
"See Emily Play", and the whole of their first LP, were produced by EMI staff producer Norman Smith.
― harveyw, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
Marley Marl was number 7 on my ballot
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
34. Chris Thomas (117 points, 7 votes)http://s.dsimg.com/image/A-150-31213-1105374800.jpgCredits: Pink Floyd, Roxy Music, Badfinger, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Pulp, The Pretenders, Sex Pistols, INXS
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Slightly to my embarrassment, Razorlight's 'In The Morning' was where I first noticed Chris Thomas's craft. Aw hell, I'd like it anyway, but there's a beautiful clarity to it that really shines among the other indie stuff of my acquaintance.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Thomas was one of a handful of entries I was previously unaware of. He also did Cale's Paris 1919 (which I mistakenly omitted above), big points for that one imho
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
First of mine to place, his work on NMTB alone is enough to justify his placing.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
The first time I noticed his name was on INXS's Kick, but then he surfaced on a lot of older albums as my tastes deepened. He didn't make my 20, but the man does good work.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
33. Pete Rock (118 points, 5 votes)http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/n/w/nwj9ts41mpj44j1.jpgCredits: Solo and w/CL Smooth, every rapper and rap group ever
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
First of my votes to place, a little surprised he's not higher.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
just becuzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRJC47y1G-8
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Glad to see Thomas make it -- I won't say "too low" or anything like that, #34 seems about right. Great work on the early Pretenders records and Bollocks -- he seemed to understand that Punk Rock and Rock and Roll were different animals that shared some language in common, but maybe not quite as much as conventional wisdom had it.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
32. Les Paul (122 points, 4 votes, 2 #1 votes)http://pulmyears.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/les_paul_01.jpgCredits: INVENTED MULTITRACK RECORDING
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
just look at that lovable goofus
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
Thomas' work on Stranded is his high-water mark for me.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
Pete Rock above Marley Marl?
my other two votes (apart from MM) so far are Gary Katz and Norman Whitfield. great list so far
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
fuck. I shouldn't post drunk.
31. Tom Wilson (124 points, 6 votes)http://www.streamingoldies.com/content-images/SOP/TomWilson08.jpgCredits: Bob Dylan, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, Simon & Garfunkel
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
... produced Sun Ra too!
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
Musicians he worked with not always too complimentary about ol' Tom tho. Accusation that his attention was apt to wander if a pretty girl walked in the room.
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Sun Ra production is just that Batman thing, right...?
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
No, "Futuristic Sounds of Sun Ra" too, I think? 1961? It was Wilson's idea to record him.
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
He's on the cover of "We're Only In It For the Money" too
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
xp Yep, Wilson produced Futuristic Sounds and Sun Song, as well as Cecil Taylor's epochal debut Jazz Advance in 1956(!)
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
hmm yeah the Batman thing is somebody else apparently
Cecil Taylor debut is news to me, that's pretty nuts
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
30. Thom Bell (131 points, 5 votes)http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/TSOP%20Thom%20Bell1a1.jpgCredits: The Delfonics, The Stylistics, The Spinners, Billy Paul, others
Was going to vote for Thom Bell, but I had a total brainfart and left him off.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
29. Martin Rushent (134 points, 7 votes)http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jul10/images/ClassicTracks_02.jpgCredits: Human League, the Stranglers, the Buzzcocks
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
thank god Thom Bell made it. but still, TOO LOW!!
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
Ned posted this story on the RIP, but it's worth repeating here:
So the story goes: (as told by him) . . .New York 78/79 can’t remember. he was over there working, he went out with a mate of his to a club to see this guy called ”Grandmaster Flash”Apparently he was doing this thing where he mixed records together live. My dad was blown away by it. He said ‘I �got home and and wanted to do something like that’. Ny 1980 he was cutting up tape together and did ”Love and Dancing” just like he saw Flash do with vinyl.Years later, i’m working at a club in Reading as a sound man. Mr Flash was booked to play. He came down early before doors to check the turntables. I was stood with him pulling leads in and out, making sure everything working.I turned to him and said, ”My dad’s a massive fan of yours” without lifting his head and looking at me he said ”cool”, he was not that bothered. i said ”Yeah, you inspired him to do this remix record” again. �Head down, pulling leads in and out. ”Cool man,’ he said, ‘he in a band?” ”No no, he’s a record producer”. ”Ahh, cool, what’s his names?””Martin Rushent”.He stopped pulling in the leads, looked up at me and said”your dad’s Martin fucking Rushent???!!”I told him the story about New York. He was shocked and excited to hear that he had inspired ”Love and Dancing”.I finished telling the story and he said, very calm, ‘‘get that nigga on the phone now’‘.They talked for about ten minuets complimenting each other. as he handed the phone back to me, he said ”cool guy, you’r a lucky kid”.yes. i am. thanks dad. for everything.”
Apparently he was doing this thing where he mixed records together live. My dad was blown away by it. He said ‘I �got home and and wanted to do something like that’. Ny 1980 he was cutting up tape together and did ”Love and Dancing” just like he saw Flash do with vinyl.
Years later, i’m working at a club in Reading as a sound man. Mr Flash was booked to play. He came down early before doors to check the turntables. I was stood with him pulling leads in and out, making sure everything working.
I turned to him and said, ”My dad’s a massive fan of yours” without lifting his head and looking at me he said ”cool”, he was not that bothered. i said ”Yeah, you inspired him to do this remix record” again. �Head down, pulling leads in and out. ”Cool man,’ he said, ‘he in a band?” ”No no, he’s a record producer”. ”Ahh, cool, what’s his names?”
”Martin Rushent”.
He stopped pulling in the leads, looked up at me and said”your dad’s Martin fucking Rushent???!!”
I told him the story about New York. He was shocked and excited to hear that he had inspired ”Love and Dancing”.
I finished telling the story and he said, very calm, ‘‘get that nigga on the phone now’‘.
They talked for about ten minuets complimenting each other. as he handed the phone back to me, he said ”cool guy, you’r a lucky kid”.
yes. i am. thanks dad. for everything.”
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
[fix]on the RIP thread[/fix]
NP: Delfonics comp on Spotify
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
xxp damn!
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
aw
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
and now, the first entry that I am genuinely ANGRY about placing so low
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
28. George Clinton (136 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://sta✧✧✧.g✧✧✧.c✧.uk/Guardian/music/gallery/2008/jun/18/festivals/PD5365✧✧✧@Funk-Musician-George--8✧✧✧.j✧✧Credits: Parliament, Funkadelic, Fred Wesley & the Horny Horns, Brides of Funkenstein, Parlet, Bootsy Collins, Bernie Worrell, many others
http://sta✧✧✧.g✧✧✧.c✧.uk/Guardian/music/gallery/2008/jun/18/festivals/PD5365✧✧✧@Funk-Musician-George--8✧✧✧.j✧✧
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
goddammit
never thought of Clinton as a producer. a guru, maybe?
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
can't post a URL with an @ symbol in it (it also happens to be a malformed URL)
― do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3488/5793488536_41d8460276.jpg
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
he is definitely a sonic architect/editor type of producer! see: Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, Maggot Brain, Flashlight, Atomic Dog etc
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
27. Jimmy Page (139 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://recordingdope.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/18/jimmypage.jpgCredits: Led Zeppelin
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, never even considered either of these guys since they're so connected to their own music.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
If Page had had much of a producer discog outside Zeppelin, he would have made my ballot, but I couldn't quite go there.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know from P-Funk, but RHCP's Freaky Styley is such a fun record, and sounds great.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
personally I think the Page placement is kind of ridiculous for this reason - but Clinton is another story, not really being a musician. apart from the occasional lead vocal Clinton was more of an orchestrator, and a coordinator of a HUGE stable of musicians with a vast catalog of wildly different material. He would take hours and hours of material and edit it and shape it into a coherent form, often into very sharp, clever and groundbreaking concept albums. He was an idea guy.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link