Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

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I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Those Big and Rich harmonies sounded particularly thin last night. Gretchen Wilson repeatedly blew them away when her songs came up.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

beside the point. Compared to my favorite albums of the decade that have a specific worldview (Desaparecidos, Good Charlotte, Nellie McKay for instance), Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade (hell, maybe if the Black Eyed Peas got their shit further together).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade

wha? huh?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah that entire post made absolutely no sense to me. What is an "open worldview anthem"?

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

sting - "brand new day"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that was a clumsy post, I apologize. The Big & Rich album strikes me as a very inclusive, anthemic album that, unlike most of the albums I prefer over it, don't come from quite as personal, subcultural or as youth-oriented a context (except for the few songs that are about being Big & Rich). I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

and fuck a sting

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency." - ok this has me baffled

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't think of an album that's as solid without being more distinctly personal, youth-oriented or subcultural. As I said earlier, please feel free to nominate others.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the beatles - sgt. peppers

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

cute

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so basically, what you're saying is: "it's not indie. it's well-produced. it is also a better album than anything else that is not indie and is well-produced that was released so far this decade."

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

noooo way....krisofferson's voice just sucks....waylon had a great voice! it was manly! just i'm surprised you don't like his outlaw stuff like "are you sure hank done it this way" and "don't you think this outlaw bit's done got outta hand"....god waylon was great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

if you actually read what I wrote earlier, frankE, there's plenty of non-indie stuff I like more. It's just that most are blatantly written from the perspective of someone in their early 20s or written in a personal "this song is about ME" way. So if somebody over 30 wants to say the Big & Rich is the best album of the decade so far I've got no beef with it.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kseger/confused.gif

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry I'm wasting your time

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the album of the decade has about 6 people calling it that

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ever voted for a third party candidate, gear?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

that's an option?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Not in our voting system. But in one designed to deal with more than two candidates, such as the Pazz & Jop poll, yes. Next question.

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so does this mean I can vote for Horse of a Different Color for president?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

well you could arguably vote for big or rich as your write-in candidate.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i suppose my favorite waylon song is "luckenbach, texas." but i swear, i've had a couple ten-song greatest hits CDs by the guy sent to me in the past couple years, and they were both really really hard to get through, his voice is so fucking draggy and ugly and leaden. the individual albums were even *harder* to get through. (i DID buy *honky tonk heroes* on vinyl a couple years ago, and I liked that one a lot - maybe because it was all billy joe shaver songs? I dunno...)

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

FYI, Roots, Rappers & Rednecks - Nashville's New Sound, a documentury featuring interviews with Big & Rich and Gretchen Wilson, is starting on BBC Radio 2 now.

― Richard C (avoid80), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

heh this is a great typo: "tobacco chewing, beer drinking beer drinking Wilson"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"did we mention that she drinks beer?"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish i could like big & rich. gretchen wilson is pretty cool.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

So.

*Big & Rich's Super Galactic Fun Pack* -- second best album of the decade?? (Just kidding. I think. But EP/DVD Dualdisc of the Decade for sure. Even Lil Jon himself might have to admit that.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oops. Fan Pack, not Fun Pack. (Piracy Fans Terrorism.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

btw perhaps the most revealing moments of the dvd are the parts where (1) john rich says (i'm paraphrasing, so check dvd for actual words) that big kenny "keeps trying to touch me, and i let him" and (2) when big kenny says (i'm paraphrasing here too, so ditto) that when they first met they were like "two bird dogs sniffing each other butts, and we didn't know whether to fight or fu......um, chase down some lady bird dogs." wow. they do some crazy new songs as well, by the way (both on the EP and on the DVD itself). and john rich reveals that he knows who twista and busta rhymes are, and the footage of north carolina and wyoming is quite beautiful and spectacular indeed.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice. Is this out or just a promo so far?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

it's been on the billboard hot 100 and the country album chart for two weeks now, so i assume it's in stores, ned.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Works for me!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

amazon isn't carrying it (yet, i guess). the only place i've seen it is on the b&r site...

― john'n'chicago, Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Big & Rich vs. Pontius and Steve-O

I still haven't fallen in love with the album (though I like a few of the singles), but they sound like they'd be a complete fucking blast to hang out with, and sometimes that's more important.

― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

album of the decade for those who find kid rock to be not quite cartoon-y enough.

― billy mcbob, Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still a holdout on actually checking out the album, but "Holy Water" is helping to win me over. the violin melody on the outro is beautiful.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 20 November 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Fuck Big & Rich.

they are crap, ive heard the album, fuck them, fuck their accountants, fuck that fat Gretchen Wilson as well.

this is one issue im totally fine with being an out of touch snob on.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

what does gretchen wilson's weight have to do with anything?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy oh boy, do I ever hate Big & Rich. I mean, I would really like to enjoy it even as much as I like Shania Twain and Faith Hill (i.e. semi-ironically), but it simply cannot be done.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

yawn

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i still don't really get these guys (nb i haven't heard the album yet). are they supposed to be like the barenaked ladies of country music?

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Close. They started out as a zydeco group- Grosse et Richard.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

and prior to that they played Breton music as Grand Et Riche

― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"the barenaked ladies of country music?"

BINGO!

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I put it to you that the Barenaked Ladies couldn't actually find a groove if their lives depended on it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish they'd find one and ride off into the sunset.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The verdict's still out on B&R around my house. I thought JBR's comparison was apt re:joke content and rhyme execution. Now I must go to wokr before somebody accuses me of being tin-eared & humorless.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I can barely remember whatever the jokes were, but I liked the riffs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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