Sasha Frere-Jones: Really?????

so much of the shit being claimed as a new look by usbm is stuff that the major players in black metal did literally over a decade ago and what writers mean when they attribute newness to it is "I give a shit now that the bands play at the Bell House"

isn't this the case for any subgenre of music that eventually garners mainstream/highbrow attention

(imho praising things for their "newness" is always a mug's game that just exposes yr ignorance about predecessors/antecedents)

try saying that next time you're trying to sell dishwashing liquid

well, just speaking of the arts here...

I'm sure the newest dishwashing liquid actually is an amazing breakthrough in soapbubble generation technology

Has anyone in indie rock ever killed anyone though, for real?

besides themselves?

I hear Ryan Adams stabbed Chuck Klosterman once

heard that sufjan killed a dude w/ his bare hands once just for looking at him

Bon Iver eats babies

That Sebastian guy from Belle & Sebastian killed someone sometime, too

Only thing I can come up with is the drummer from the Housemartins:

In 1993, Whitaker was convicted of assault after attacking his former business partner James Hewitt with an axe, and firebombing his house after Hewitt had seemingly cheated him. He served 5 years in prison. After his release, he moved to Leeds. In 2004, he was playing drums with a local band called Percy

Thurston Moore killed Robert Christgau iirc

the hold steady almost killed me

Hoodie should've said STOKED FOR THE MADNESS tbh

Noir Desir anyone?

~think about it~

"the violence" is just a weird way to describe the black metal situation in Norway - one murder IIRC? a friends-business-beef murder in point of fact, not really v. genre-related? - and then the church burnings, which are a totally different deal & which haven't crossed over here because the only ppl in the US who might burn churches with the same (ostensible I guess I should add) impetus/rationale as the Norwegian dudes would be Native Americans & there's only one Native American metal band I know of and they play death not black

fwiw p. 329 of Lords of Chaos, The Electric Hellfire Club has some fans who have vandalized churches and they explicitly encourage fan to burn churches down:

"For them, it's a revolutionary act, it's not an act of vandalism. It's a statement. The church is the legacy of the people that stole their heritage. By all means -- burn, baby burn!"

btw, if that quote isn't clear, he's approving of church burnings in norway. later he says that he'd smile approvingly if there were similar burnings in the US

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/14113m1.gif

the hold steady almost killed me

― mookieproof, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:23 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Uh Mr. Unborn Whiskey, the article did say a "fair amount" not "all".

i definitely realize that but i have been working on a piece about leviathan for a feminist blog, so i was necessarily sensitive about it

Well, please make sure you see my follow-up comments where I realize where it came from, due to my misreading of the original article.

totally did, but you're still kind of otm. i was mad.

also aero otm regarding how "one murder" = "black metal is full of violence" is a kind of casual, irresponsible link.

xpost Well, there was that one Shins guy that beat up his girlfriend, and the Isaac Brock rape charge that went away. But indie murder? Dunno.

why hello mr. unborn whiskey

tbf a native (North) american black metal band would be tres badass

May I introduce you to Gyibaaw...

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gyibaaw/3540271446

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=181925428

""the violence" is just a weird way to describe the black metal situation in Norway - one murder IIRC?"

Well the lead singer of the self-same band did kill himself in fairly violent fashion and the soon to be murdered guitarist did photo it for the band's next album, drummer of other famous Norwegian BM act killed a gay man, lead singer of big Swedish BM act involved in murder of another gay man, plus arson is a fairly violent act. Although I guess with the Leviathan thing USBM now has their own monstrous act of violence to unite around. Ick.

fwiw i know next to nothing about underground metal and i know allllll about that one guy who murdered another guy so you can't really blame just one writer for playing that up

http://theamericanreader.com/sasha-frere-jones-is-a-white-man

(via maxxx)

i'm xposting to the rolling racist thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Woman

Alice Randall is a black woman.

the hilarious thing about this is that sfj's homie joshua "jane dark" clover is ACTUALLY guilty of misleading readers in such a way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz04BwDgRkI

David Grann expose in next week's NYer about how Frere Jones *is* actually a black woman and has been playing an elaborate game of identity shifting with the magazine. mind blowing.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/reggie_cleveland_autograph.jpg

is that article serious

i can't even tell

is joek

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0RbegJ8Qz0Y/Rqx7UAL8PUI/AAAAAAAAAMc/0vnbVozY5kc/s400/moe_angry.JPG

"Maya Angelou is black?!?"

still want to know how hot dominique leone and jessica harvell are in person

Jacob Savage.

not really a savage

shocker.

Just going to assume that he's the brother of the guy from The Wonder Years.

Jacob Savage is the son of Fred and Chantay Savage.

His gig annotating lyrics at Genius.com didn't last long

http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/357901/sasha-frere-jones-to-launch-entertainment-vertical-at-la-times/

Sasha Frere-Jones, the former New Yorker music writer who left that magazine for the annotation startup Genius, will be a cultural critic at large for the Los Angeles Times, the newspaper announced Wednesday morning.

At the Los Angeles Times, Frere-Jones will launch an entertainment-focused digital vertical, according to a memo from Editor Davan Maharaj and S. Mitra Kalita, managing editor for editorial strategy.

Frere-Jones, who was most recently executive editor at Genius, reportedly dropped his full-time contract at the startup earlier this year to work on other projects. He was a contributing editor at the New Yorker for a decade and before that wrote for Village Voice, Spin and The New York Times, among other publications.

The Los Angeles Times memo has scant details on the forthcoming entertainment vertical that will be helmed by Frere-Jones, but says that he will report to Kalita and work with various colleagues throughout the newsroom.

wow. if i had to guess i'd say it was his decision to leave, them genius boys are a mess

lol

"entertainment-focused digital vertical"

how could this fail?

I was going to ask what a "vertical" meant--I honestly didn't know. But I looked it up myself. Really, really unnecessary term...