Boards of Canada: Classic or Dud?

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and into a world where synthesizers coexist with hundred-year-old willow trees.

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love this. Also the term 'soccer children' = beautiful, somehow very BoC. Ah well, that used to be me ;)

Omar, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Agree with alot of what you're saying Matthew. The pastoral aspect seems very undervalued in their work. Although they sound nothing like them,I'm always reminded of the Incredible String Band when I listen to them. It could be the beards of course though.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh yes Omar. It's an evocative phrase. And how. Sounds better than "advert children" which I was playing with a while ago.

Since one of my earlier threads seems to have been resuscitated, I'll just add that I probably rate BoC higher in terms of *magic realism* than I ever have. I can sort of see where Billy's coming from with the ISB comparison, as well: if you're looking for the halfway point, Bill, I'm waiting with a C90 of "The Fourth Dimension" ...

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

_Music Has A Right To Children_ is an album that grows in magnitude the more I hear it. It's an astounding piece of work, mixing repetition with warmth, emotions pinned firmly to to senquencer pads.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
This summer I inherited a huge batch of CDs (many of them which could be classed as electronica) from a former friend I was communicating with again during his last few months. This CD was in that batch. Despite the intriguing name, title, and graphic design, I consider it a dud, though I did give it a few listens before consigning it to the discard pile. (As I've said elsewhere though, this is a genre that I rarely like.)

DeRayMi, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Reevaluate?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

is that a command?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

no that would be RE-EVALUATE!!

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bilderberg.org/chpsyco.jpg

The 70's BBC children's television series, The Changes, is an
indisputable influence for MHTRC. Robin Carmody is well aware. His BBC Radiophonic Workshop essay is outstanding.

IABP and Geogaddi are minor shifts in the BoC sound. The whole David Koresh theme is creepy, but I love it.

I say they're ace, hands-down, CLASSIC. They make beautiful textures, tones, and melodies with very few synths and outdated samplers and that is no simple feat!

Any ILXors ever been to the Pentland Hills area or met the BoC or any of the music70 collective?

Cub, Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

pentlands, yeah.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Twoism = Good Idea
Hi Scores = Great Execution
Music Has the Right to Children = Classic
Geogaddi = A Step Back; loss of innocence?

Boards of Canada = Near Classic; depends on what they do next.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I find the early material too simple and lacking the gauzy warped projector feel that MHTRTC has, I thought IABPBTC was very weak (only listened to it 3 times), haven't heard Geodaddi enough to comment...

re: the "british sound" as mentioned above: stirmonster (v. occasional glaswegan ILM poster) once mentioned elsewhere [heavy paraphrase ahead] that he found the prettiness of BoC's music a sharp contrast to the dreadful starkness of the north coast of scotland.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

roy g biv sounds better when ine kamoze sings the hotstepper over it
*ducks*

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been to the pentlands, they're rubbish.

Not in the north of Scotland though, just next to Edinburgh. The Pale Saints recorded some of their records near there.

Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

ah okay, my horrible paraphrase caveat stands.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

look how polite everyone is upthread! i swear, it's that george bush setting the tone of ilx discussion recently.

anyhow, classic, "geogaddi" included.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
so, what about now?

in some ways i think much of their back catalogue is a bit tainted by the beats. as in, they seem unnecessarily leaden. they certainly date the records to a particular time period (its less apparent on geogaddi i guess). i like pretty much everything still, but the beats detract for me, or, at least, are the worst parts of most of their stuff

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

they should do 8 more remixes, and then release a remix album.

jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm looking forward to a new one but they may have left it a bit long between releases for people to put up with yet more of their schtick (a lovely schtick as it is). They could do with going for a new but not totally new sound/angle if you see what I mean.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't disagree charltonlido, but then again it was never the BoC's beats that did it for me, more their exquisite off-kilter melodies. They still sound strong.

stevo (stevo), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a brainwave that Geogaddi might sync up with the movie The Wicker Man. And it did for the first few scenes - very nicely too!

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

They should have made more tracks like "Telephasic Workshop" - that still astounds, lots of it is great (though i never found it innovative) some of it is decent and "Geogaddi" i actively dislike.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Geogaddi would've been a lot lot better if they hadn't had that horrible track that sounds like a kid being mauled in a threshing machine quite near the beginning of the album. Asides from that it is a properly moving body of work that gets better even after a few years. Normally when you haven't played it in a while and then stick it on there's a whole lot of new stuff that stands out. MHTRTC was great too of course but on Geogaddi they make some of those synths "sing" with a proper passion that is rare in electronic-based music.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to 'Nlogax' last night and started thinking about how they made it. i imagined it as them letting that 'Radio Ga Ga' beat run for hours while they recorded various other things live (the 808 bell, the electro bassline, that trademark BOC organ melody) and then edited it all down but not in a totally calculated precise way - i kept hearing what wasn't there if that makes sense, what could've been included but wasn't, and why...but i think 'Nlogax' has a good beat, tho if anything it's too soft/light.

i can't think of many examples of tracks where the beat seems a real problem to be honest - anyone have any specific examples? it seems like a bit of a shot in the dark otherwise. i can think of many examples where the heaviness of beat compliments what else is going on - 'Whitewater' from 'Boc Maxima' for example - but i can see what is meant by the suggestion that more could've been done with the beats - they just come in and seem to trundle from A to B without varying much of the time, but somehow they manage to seem quite deft rather than leaden (Orange Romeda! Amo Bishop Roden!). it may just be the tempo of most BOC songs that makes the beats seem leaden rather than the sounds used to construct them (muffled, dirty, retro - to match the overall sound).

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any chance some could yousendit Boc Maxima? I’m curious.

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

im not saying they should have done more with the beats, i think they should have done less, or, perhaps what i mean is, have them less prominent. they're a bit domineering and heavy handed.

i think the drums on something like Mort Garson's Plantasia would have been a better approach

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dawn Chorus" is simply one of the most gorgeous slabs of noise ever committed to record. Total fucking ace!

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll try and YSI some Boc Maxima shortly, Orange

i nearly always find the beats a welcome addition, and BOC always seem to have valued electronic rhythm to a fair extent and they tend to prefer it heavy. it's usually one of the last things to come in, which can give the impression the track has been built to support the beat rather than the other way round, no? which is an understandable criticism if true, only i don't hear it as a big problem myself - i don't think it would make a significant difference to how i hear BOC. 'ROYGBIV' seems as good an example as any of the beat being useful, if only for the bit where the bassdrum drops out again just for 4 bars - that's possibly the best bit, but it couldn't work without the beat beforehand.

how about Autechre or Biopshere? do their beats sound better because they're complex or 'modern', or 'lighter'?

what are the drums on 'Plantasia' like (hint)?

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, that would be awesome.

It’s pretty coincidental; I listened to Music again last night and it didn’t work for me as well as it usually does. (I believe) I too felt the beats slightly lacking. But hey, some of my favourite moments are things happening to the beats. There is a wonderful bit in ‘Kid For Today’ where the heavier beat enters and plays two snares in a row (so that one is on the spot of a bass drum). And the lo-fi drums at the end of ‘Aquarius’. And the fantastic beat fucking in ‘Pete Standing Alone’. And the sonically beautiful drums in ‘Roygbiv’, ‘Turquoise Hexagon Sun’, ‘Last Walk Around Mirror Lake’... yeah, they’re not so bad after all.

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

here's 'Whitewater' from 'Boc Maxima', one of my personal favourites, tho it may be a bit of a 'grower': http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1V3D8YRVAAONM3F266TA58BUFD

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Dud. Dullsville. Dudsville.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

huge dud.

f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

oh goody, i thought they would be such a shoo in for classic status on here, good to hear from disapprovers - but why?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I love them. Find their stuff moving, emotionally centered...melancholy, even. "Geogaddi" is a record I was quite obsessive about for a while, back in 2003.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The best way I could describe them would be "surprisingly predictable"

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd agree with that description and yet despite that i still dig "geogaddi"

Amon (eman), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i tend to like the shorter filler stuff more than the longer tracks ("dandelion" is one of my favorite tracks on geogaddi, no joke), but still: classic.

joseph (joseph), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Turquoise Hexagon Sun" is one of the 100 greatest songs ever recorded.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The other day I heard BoC on a French TV show about the ocean.

as for BoC, they're like one of those artist everyone Loves and is influenced by, but justifiably. I Love Boards Of Canada, and I don't care what anyone thinks.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Monday, 11 April 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Just heard a Beck remix which was very good. More orchestral and sounds like a french soundtrack or something.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 25 June 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Last time I heard (friends copy, borrowed) MHTRTC I found it too boring to want to actually keep. There were some moments in the last 1/3th of the album that seemed to hit the a good spot though (Roygbiv and Aquarius I think).

But I'll say that some of their tunes stick in the head alarmingly well for 'ambient' music. Is there a reason I haven't gone and re-investigated them since? Yes, it's that I actually find their music a little creepy and disturbing.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 25 June 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dawn Chorus" is simply one of the most gorgeous slabs of noise ever committed to record. Total fucking ace!

Yeah, this is one of the greatest things ever.

sleep (sleep), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

(BoC = classic of course. Geogaddi isn't perfect, but I like it more than Music Has the Right...)

sleep (sleep), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

i love how some of you romanticize the music. it's just music. i bet you're putting more thought into than they did in making it.

fgjfgj, Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

it's just music. it's just poetry. it's just film. it's just beauty. it's just life.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

OMG, my post way upthread is the perfect mix of prentension and fawning. I still stand by it, though.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 26 June 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Music is Math. It's just Math. Y'know, like DNA.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Boards of Canada can be heartbreakingly beautiful or heartbreakingly boring.

nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

I like Boards of Canada. But I don't know that much about new-fangled "techno" musicks. It's pretty and I like to listen to it, though.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I used to like MHTRTC well enough... but not even enough to check out Geogaddi until I'd found cheap + used. And now that I've listened to Geogaddi (many, mang times) I find MHTRTC even more dry and uncompelling, save for a few tracks. The "more of the same" reviews at the time of the release misled me in this respect.

original bgm, Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I love them, but I love the Lord - more than any physical being

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 20 June 2026 06:03 (five days ago)

actual lol

brimstead, Saturday, 20 June 2026 06:17 (five days ago)

I might need to revisit their old stuff but what also strikes me as novel is the pure musicality of the sampled voices. The Father and Son voices are driving the rhythm of the song, while in other songs the samples nearly play the role of a top line melody. Totally love this album

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 20 June 2026 10:52 (five days ago)

cf Telephasic Workshop

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 20 June 2026 14:20 (five days ago)

FYI re: "Father & Son"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQvNlXZhl4

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 20 June 2026 17:53 (five days ago)

was BoC ever POLLed?
― scanner darkly

No, but we might as well - they're probably done for another 10 years at least, if not ever.

― octobeard, Saturday, 20 June 2026 04:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yes please!

chap, Sunday, 21 June 2026 01:08 (four days ago)

i guess the question is, how soon after the latest release is it reasonable to poll to let the new tracks saturate

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testing my husband's patience by occasionally employing "why can't you bring that same feeling home"

scanner darkly, Sunday, 21 June 2026 02:57 (four days ago)

xxp in the track it’s eerie and disembodied, but to see the people makes it terribly sad to me.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 21 June 2026 04:50 (four days ago)

^^yes

Dan S, Sunday, 21 June 2026 23:20 (four days ago)

i think i genuinely love how this manages to sound extremely menacing but also very clean, like a vision of hell in total focus

― ivy., Saturday, May 30, 2026

Naraka feels maybe more resolute than the previous tracks and more ominous but it also has the same very clearly defined cinematic quality

I love that it's followed by the murk and buzzing flies and birds and dark intimations of menace on the short track Acts of Magic... and also then with a cardiac monitor, sighing voices and a sense of resignation on Memory Death. Not sure what it all means

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2026 00:10 (three days ago)

i think i genuinely love how this manages to sound extremely menacing but also very clean, like a vision of hell in total focus

― ivy., Saturday, May 30, 2026

Naraka feels maybe more resolute than the previous tracks and more ominous but it also has the same very clearly defined cinematic quality

I love that it's followed by the murk and buzzing flies and birds and dark intimations of menace on the short track Acts of Magic... and also then with a cardiac monitor, sighing voices and a sense of resignation on Memory Death. Not sure what it all means

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2026 00:10 (three days ago)

I only posted that once, sorry

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2026 00:10 (three days ago)

uh, let's see, I've lost track

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 22 June 2026 00:15 (three days ago)

I love that it's followed by the murk and buzzing flies and birds and dark intimations of menace on the short track Acts of Magic... and also then with a cardiac monitor, sighing voices and a sense of resignation on Memory Death. Not sure what it all means

― Dan S, June 22. 2026

This section brings to my mind those crazy "synchronizer" session sequences in Boorman's Exorcist II.

jvc, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 03:48 (two days ago)

I thought it was a bit odd that people found the religious theme of the album to be too 'on the nose' for them or whatever, as far as I know none of their stuff references mainstream religion much. the Hare Krishna part is something they never would've done in the past. it makes this album spooky in a different way.

also interesting they didn't use any kid voices on this one. obviously there weren't any on Tomorrows Harvest either but it comes off different here since there are plenty of other voices on it. you do faintly hear one on one of the last tracks though, the bit where it sounds like the universe folding onto itself

anyway right now I do think this is the best BoC album

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 03:51 (two days ago)

I don’t know maybe we have different interpretations of what “on the nose“ means. To me in the past any sort of societal critique by board of Canada seems to have been subsumed under oblique references, like the Branch Davidian references that most people would only understand if you read the internet obsessively, (even in the artwork of A Beautiful Place Out In The Country). where here, and I’m including the album artwork, it’s rather out in the open.

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 12:16 (two days ago)

I don't mean things I'm reading here I mean the initial reaction I heard from some people, "oh, another album about God and religion"...I don't think any of their albums have really been about that

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 12:55 (two days ago)

ah

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 13:06 (two days ago)

really, if anything is on the nose it's our current reality, in better times we'd be all talking about oblique references on the new BoC album

scanner darkly, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 17:03 (two days ago)

yeah, true, we live in unsubtle times

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 17:10 (two days ago)

yeah unfortunately the excitement of knowing we were probably getting a new BoC album was undercut a bit by Donald Trump threatening to end an entire civilization on Truth Social

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 17:10 (two days ago)


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