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after _live '77_, i recommend:
_french demo tape_ (this is really my favorite, i think)
_sunset glow festival 1975_
_live et studio 67-69_
the mizutani solo/rallizes split

there are a couple of things labelled variously "mass studio demo" or "mars studio demo" that are somewhat different - one features two versions of "romance of black grief" (i think) that are surprisingly subtle and have some nice tape-delay messing about. the other (september 9th, 1980) is atypical rallizes stuff with some noisy guitar.

the "red" cdr is pretty good, too, but as with all rallizes stuff they generally just did the same batch of songs again and again.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 March 2003 08:12 (twenty-three years ago)

what recommendations do you all have for good sites to download mp3s of their LIVE stuff?

slsk!

thanks, your null fame; btw, are you on slsk? cos i'm d/ling rallizes stuff from someone whose user name isn't all that far from yours.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 March 2003 09:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a CD boot of Live '77 on the way to me from Midheaven Mailorder in SF, CA. Check to see if they have more in stock quickly! The periodic piracies of this elusive jewel always move fast! Scratch Records had another CD in stock which I did not get, as I'm waiting to "live with" the Live '77 thing for a bit before I take the full plunge.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yeah - I think the thing Scratch had was Heavier Than A Death In the Family, and I do not think it is the same as Live '77 - but I'm not positive.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Update! Midheaven was, in fact, out of stock. However, Yod records lists both Volumes of a thing called "Fucked Up & Naked". Two different 2LP sets. I have e-mailed them regarding actual availability. Seems every time I try to order something by Rallizes, it ends up being out-of-stock. Julian Cope's Head Heritage site shows an item called "Blind Baby Has His Mother's Eyes". At last check, Scratch Records was showing "Heavier Than A Death In the Family" in their catalogue... Oh, and Soulseek has several MP3s...

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The Live 77 Double CD sounds quite good. I got one at Aquarius. It's the same as the first boot LP but in the same order as the SIXE release.
As far as the second boot LP goes, does anyone have a track listing? I'm paricularly curious about the side long Motorhead / motorcycle-like track on there. The rest of it is 80s Rallizes which I'm not as down with like they're using transistor amps.
Oh yeah, way up above I saw a reference to Takayanagi Masayuki. Does anyone have any of his stuff from 1975? I'm looking to hear:

Eclipse [Iskra 001]
Axis Another Revolvable Thing 1 [Offbeat ORLP-1005]
Axis Another Revolvable Thing 2 [Offbeat ORLP-1009]

- Holly

holly jupiter, Saturday, 15 March 2003 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
The translations for the 1st 2 songs on the second disc of the Live '77 bootleg CD I have, which is Le 12 Mars 1977 a Tachikawa, are:

1. Strong Out Deeper Than the Night (no, it is not supposed to be "strung")
2. Reapers of the Night

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:15 (twenty-three years ago)

''Oh yeah, way up above I saw a reference to Takayanagi Masayuki. Does anyone have any of his stuff from 1975? I'm looking to hear:
Eclipse [Iskra 001]
Axis Another Revolvable Thing 1 [Offbeat ORLP-1005]
Axis Another Revolvable Thing 2 [Offbeat ORLP-1009]''


yeah if anyone has this stuff and is up for tape trading. gimme gimme email.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 08:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Rallizes merch update: The 2-LP item billed as Fucked Up & Naked Vol. 1 is in fact yet another reissue of Live '77. The good news is that it sounds great! A bit better than the most recent 2-CD version I think...

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
Went to a Japanese Rallizes discography page & was alarmed & depressed to see how much bootleg stuff is out there. There are several 10-disc bootleg sets listed, in addition to the boot/pirate versions of '77 and '73 that are floating around..........

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

you're not the only one who was 'depressed' abt the amount of bootlegs listed on that site (I wonder abt the guy who runs it).

They are the japanese grateful dead but like better than that. hopefully some shit will appear some day.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey! Yes, I'm hoping to see some of that stuff emerge in more readily available form. Speaking of which, its about time somebody reissued Live '73 again, isn't it?

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

yes it has benn 'reissued' (its all boots really). I haven't found a copy. good luck.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

is anyone familiar with the Rallizes' Cragale CD-R? (FND-S1). 6 tracks, from '73, '76, '80 and '81. track listing?

summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

hey gimme a copy. let me take a closer look and I'll find out for ya ;-)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

cragale was a japanese label - i think originally in the 80s they did some super-rare vinyl stuff and more recently they reissued some stuff on cdr. dunno if they ever did any rallizes stuff (only connection i can find between the two is an ebay auction).

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Julio, Apparently all of the Live '73 boots are old and not readily available now. I was publicly wishing for a new one to pop out that I could order from Eclipse or Aquarius or somebody... I have seen tons of Rallizes stuff on Soulseek. Might have to go to that.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 25 April 2003 12:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't download but I'm hoping some of this stuff will turn up. cheers.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i just got an announcement for this release. anyone heard anything about it?

QBICO Label:

OUT NOW QBICO 09/10

ARTHUR DOYLE/TAKASHI MIZUTANI/SABU TOYOZUMI- Live in Japan, 1997 (QBICO 09/10) 2LP folder cover, Qbico 09: black&red vinyl (very few pink&black or brown vinyl)/Qbico 10: black&yelloworange, liner notes by Ilya Monosov, cover artwork by Qbico, 450 copies only. $25.
26 copies only with hand-made covers, numbered from A to Z, price: $59 each

Arthur Doyle- tenor sax, flute, voice/Takashi Mizutani- electric guitar/Sabu
Toyozumi- drums

Rec. live November 14, 1997 @ Manda-la2, Tokyo, Japan

info at http://qbic.web.planet.it/QBICO%20RECORDS.htm

b zuraw (bryan zuraw), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:49 (twenty-three years ago)

ilya monosov has really managed to wedge himself in to things, apparently. and gotta love that pricing - "it's $25. why? because you'll fucking pay it, sport!"

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Crazy political stories abound around the Rallizes camp. Guitarist was allegedly involved in a plot to hijack an airliner (he didn't go through with it, but others did) -- the French thing is definitely worth seeking too after the double live discs.

Anyone interested in Japanese psych/scuzz should seek the Gaseneta disc on PSF. 1978-era total punk garbage guitar that influenced High Rise later (who apparently shared some music on a cassette release with Gaseneta). Imagine speed-psych acid mothers minus the reverb, with a lot grottier production and a guy plowing through solos ultra-fast with gloves on...hits the spot for me!

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:20 (twenty-three years ago)

This just in! Eclipse Records has 2 Rallizes items not seen in a while (I think). December's Black Children (2 discs recorded live in December 1980) and another reissue of Heavier Than a Death In the Family, which is Live '77 resequenced & with a 1973 cut called "People Can Choose" added.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

... Ed is also apparently well stocked on Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes as of now.........

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

REcieved my order from Ed @ Eclipse today. Have listened to part of "December's Black Children." It sounds very good, but the performance is more subtle than what I'm used to from Rallizes. Hypermanic guitar spazz has been minimal thus far... In further news, Ed has a new Rallizes thing in his bag of tricks. Its an LP called "High Or Die" which does not overlap with the 2 recent double-LP sets... Seems as though the Rallizes Denudes stuff is beginning to come out hot & heavy. Wo! As I'm writing this Mizutani has ripped into a solo that sounds like a very drunk Neil Young. In a good way.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:06 (twenty-three years ago)

''ARTHUR DOYLE/TAKASHI MIZUTANI/SABU TOYOZUMI- Live in Japan, 1997 (QBICO 09/10) 2LP''

got this last night: its pretty good in a sort of blue humans vein (I suppose its more to do with instrumentation and the fact that doyle is there). I'll have to hear this a few more times before i can say more on it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:32 (twenty-three years ago)

New assessment of December's Black CHildren:

The fact that I first thought it was "subtle" only shows the depth of my guitar-noise jadedness. It pretty much singes your eyebrows off. The tempo is slower overall. There is a very cool one-chord blues vamp that sounds a bit like John Lee Hooker on moonshine & ayahuasca, and though it claims to all be from one source, I suspect it may not be. THere are differences in sound, songs fade a bit too slowly, revealing the beginning of the next song to have actually been another one.

Thanks for the report on the Doyle disc Julio.........

Also, Ed is already out of High Or Die. Happy hunting.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been doing some heavy DLing & burning lately from Soulseek. SOme recommendations:

Wild Party 1975 (quite possibly the most intense guitar noise barrage in human history)
Studio & Soundboard 1975-1978
France Demo Tape
Red
Blue

you might want to avoid Mars (or Mass) Demo. Pretty pedestrian...

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

nice. I might be getting a copy of some of those coloured CDRS soon-ish. will report in a week or two.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

here -- i'll get some friends together and record pointless misreadings of psychedelia on a handheld cassette recorder. twenty-five years from now i will sell you all a copy and you will be very excited about it, having heard how "legendary" my band was.

maybe i'm missing the point, having only heard '77 live, but i can't help that thinking people can get a bit overexcited when something is a) japanese b) noisy and c) hard to find.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)

''pointless misreadings of psychedelia''

unless you start explaining the 'pointlessness' of it all and in what way it 'misreads' psychedelia you will end looking a fule.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

pointless: again, having only heard '77 live i can say quite honestly that there is little distinguishing les rallizes denudes from what results in any basement or garage anywhere on earth where there are a) teenagers b) marijuana and c) electric guitars present. hackish, bluesy guitar solos, bass parts lifted from hendrix, barely competant drumming. no attempts at developing "a song" or taking the opposing road that lets the freeform develop into something trancelike (the guitar playing is too obtrusive). it's just crappy stoner jamming. sorry.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

''again, having only heard '77 live i can say quite honestly that there is little distinguishing les rallizes denudes from what results in any basement or garage anywhere on earth where there are a) teenagers b) marijuana and c) electric guitars present''

you are gonna have to give me examples of this. I think what rallizes do (two guitars feeding back and virtually bleeding into each other) with constant bass/drum pattern is something that no band I've heard of sounds like.

what is so 'hackish' abt their 'bluesy' guitar solos? You see, they are lifted from the blues but its not menat to be exactly like blues and so what if the bass parts are lifted from hendrix. The only thing you can say abt bass parts is that they are repeating pattern. Its mixed high up and it heightens the 'body blow' effect but its something to hang onto as they throw these formless guiatr shapes for 10 + minutes, same with the drums, which sound competent to me.

And song isn't their strong point but its a mix of song and jamming. its psych rock so you're gonna get that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 06:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that what distinguishes Rallizes from other bands (perhaps unjustly)pigeonholed as "stoner jamming" is the extreme level to which they take the whole guitar-noise aesthetic. It isn't intended to be "trancelike" (which, I have concluded, often translates as "boring as shit artsy meandering"), it is intended to be jarring & "intrusive", to excite & disorient the listener. So far in my exploration of Rallizes I have found very little that is crappy, but you have to be one who is more attracted to the intensity of the performance than the fidelity of the sound, because, as has been mentioned, much of the material is culled from audience tapes.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm gonna find '77 live and throw it on again.

i think people have overintellectualized responses to this band, i really do. if it was just a tape of your brother-in-law's pick-up band you'd probably toss it in the bin (but discreetly, so as not to offend the brother-in-law). i will, however, give les rallizes denudes another chance just so i'm not guilty of condeming something without trying to understand it first.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

um, I don't think we are overintellectualizing anything (or at least i don't intend to). Its well executed at times and not so well at others.

When its done well, its exceptional.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I never heard a blues musician emit the ear-splitting freedelic onslaught that Mizutani was capable of & often pulled off with such panache. Leigh Stephens from Blue Cheer came close, but even his most 'out' venture ('Out of Focus') didn't quite get there. And he & Mizutani were contemporaries. Lou Reed's offerings on 'I Heard Her Call My Name' and the live versions of 'What Goes On' are more in the ballpark, but I've never heard a blues player go that far out. And this didn't require a lot of thought, of overintellectualisation is not a factor. It was more of a gut reaction.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
while i enjoy rallizes a lot [my girlfriend's dad turned me on to them on a visit to japan a few years ago—he actually knows some of their "associates" or at least fixed their motorcycles—total speed freaks! one guy's tooth came out eating a cookie] but i don't really hear a connection to blue cheer or the velvet underground—if anything they're like crazy horse. speaking of which, has anyone read "shakey"? there's a part in there where they're playing a show in japan and frank and billy are on acid and frank talks about how every time he touches his guitar rainbows come out of it—neil even leans over and comments on the night's overy psych feel. does anyone have a tape of this? was mizutani there?

libbey adams, Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

''[my girlfriend's dad turned me on to them on a visit to japan a few years ago—he actually knows some of their "associates" or at least fixed their motorcycles—total speed freaks! one guy's tooth came out eating a cookie]''

heh.

funny you should mention neil young bcz just on wednesday i got hold of the 'red' and 'green' CDRs and I got reminded of Neil Young (guitars not as distorted as live 77, basically comes down to that). I think the blue cheer connection come from the use of distortion whereas the velvets comes from the use of repeating basslines and drum patterns.

but yeah, its a lot of things.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The VU connection also comes from the uncontrolled fuzz & feedback blasts that can hit you with grenade-like force. I can certainly see the Crazy Horse comparisons too, especially on things like 'Shots' from 'Reactor' and the live recordings dating back to 'Live Rust'. The Rallizes 'High or Die' bootleg is out & about again & is a gem. Hiroshi Nar, former Rallizes member, has released some stuff as well.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 27 June 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...
Up-Tight has released at least 2 things. Spoonful has released at least one. These are Rallizes spin-offs. The SPoonful thing is really good, with a vaguely Deep-Purple-gone-garage sort of vibe. Haven't listened to the Up-Tight things yet.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Rallizes: historically important, but little else. If they were to actually allow a legit, easily accessible and affordable rerelease of their catalogue - and everyone from PSF to dodgy American psych labels has tried to get them to allow it - I think that their reputation was sink immediately. Certainly they know this; their mystique remains intact precisely because anoraks go overboard buying up CD-Rs for $40 on ebay!

I like Rallizes but think it's decidedly minor work. Fushitsusha or Kosukuya they ain't.

Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, hush.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If they allowed cheap-ish CDs their 'reputation' would be on the way up: a few bands would try to ape that sound, but whether they would be successful in doing so is another matter.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmmm, I think you two are just feeling a bit defensive 'cause you bought $40 CD-Rs ...

I have a legit 'Live 77' cd. I'll be happy to let it go for, oh, $400.

Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
No, not feeling defensive. Perhaps you are feeling a bit smug because you didn't buy the CDRs due to the fact that you don't 'get it.' Its cool. I don't 'get' Minimikoto.

Watch for Les Rallizes Denudes & Yellow - Sessions at Fussa double disc. Also, I wasn't aware until recently that there were 2 Doyle/Mizutani trio shows recorded... Hiroshi Nar has been releasing a ton of stuff, including a live thing with Nishinihon.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Up-Tight record is grebt. Is this really a spinoff? I thought it was some other band altogether who just enjoyed Les Rallizes.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure Hiroshi Nar is in Up-Tight, and he was in Rallizes.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Is this (still) true? I saw Up-Tight at the last Instal fest. None of them seemed old enough to have been in Rallizes, though I could be mistaken: Big shades and mops all round!

Soukesian, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Rallizes on youtube here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBXLh-v_II&search=rallizes%20denudes

Seems to be some sort of Japanese TV arts show retrospective segment. Any Japanese speakers out there able to clue us in on who is being interviewed and what they have to say?

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.volcanictongue.co.uk/artist.php?art=Les+Rallizes+D%2526%2523233%253Bnud%2526%2523233%253Bs

anger

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

The collection of a typical Les Rallizes Dénudés fan. pic.twitter.com/Ej9gbAaWEa

— Temporal Drift (@Temporal_Drift) June 3, 2024

StanM, Saturday, 2 November 2024 07:59 (one year ago)

Around the 63' mark of The Last One from that show, the bassline drops out of the mix suddenly and gives way to an enormous squall of signature Mizutani feedback more rapturous than any I've heard in the LRD catalogue. One of my buddies is friends with a monkey who was at that show. He managed to get a setlist while the band was breaking down their gear and got it signed by Mizutani.

Ubiquitor, Saturday, 2 November 2024 21:49 (one year ago)

Damn that's one hip monkey.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 November 2024 22:10 (one year ago)

six months pass...

New '76 show now up for preorder!

https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/jittoku-76

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 30 May 2025 09:53 (one year ago)

Great show - and it sounds a lot better than the old bootlegged version (starting at 51:37 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWJE8RIi_90 )

StanM, Friday, 30 May 2025 10:09 (one year ago)

Love Temporal Drift for doing the lord's work with this stuff!

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 May 2025 14:19 (one year ago)

That sounds really good, even just the 45-second sample. Might even buy the 2CD edition.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 30 May 2025 14:58 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Me oh my, I picked up the Azuba Demo Tape '85 for a song the other day and damn does it sound good! Found it used at the record store--moments like this are the idealized fantasy that drove me to get into collecting records a few months ago and which, upon beginning the obsession, I thought would never actually happen.

Mizutani lays off the fuzz on this one for the most part and it really brings out another dimension to their sound. A dimension which, to be sure, is identifiable beneath the torrent of fuzz on other records, but which can stand on its own, too. There's a real swagger to the basslines, a sort of ominous plodding that almost reminds me of a scene from Twin Peaks or some other Lynch work.

Ubiquitor, Sunday, 17 August 2025 01:42 (nine months ago)

Azabu but yes :-)

StanM, Sunday, 17 August 2025 06:11 (nine months ago)

Whoops, ty

Ubiquitor, Sunday, 17 August 2025 16:18 (nine months ago)

Jittoku '76 is out - tremendously improved over the version that circulated before

StanM, Friday, 22 August 2025 16:00 (nine months ago)

"Azuba Demo Tape '85"

Beautiful shit

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 August 2025 20:14 (nine months ago)

fwiw just got an email from Temporal Drift that they will have "some very special news to share" tomorrow for Bandcamp Friday. the photo appears to be a t-shirt with the Jittoku '76 cover art. maybe just LRD merch, but I wouldn't mind more material.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 September 2025 21:51 (nine months ago)

Guessing merch but we'll see.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 September 2025 22:26 (nine months ago)

five months pass...

Another "lost album" on the way. Are Temporal Drift starting to scrape the barrel?

https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/disque-4-76-studio-et-live

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 13 February 2026 08:26 (three months ago)

there's only so much available, they can't keep finding unexpected recordings forever

StanM, Friday, 13 February 2026 08:43 (three months ago)

Counterpoint: they might.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 February 2026 19:04 (three months ago)

dunno, this sample sounds pretty good to me — scrape that barrel!

tylerw, Friday, 13 February 2026 19:08 (three months ago)

That's right

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 February 2026 08:20 (three months ago)

Yeah I have no problems with more things surfacing. Why the hell not? It's not like they've even formally released everything that was already released as a bootleg, for instance.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 February 2026 16:59 (three months ago)

two months pass...

Anyway, new one released yesterday and all.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 May 2026 16:40 (four weeks ago)


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