EMI / Guy Hands

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Surely the premature Best Of only comes out when the record company know the audience only wants to hear the famous stuff, that no one is going to buy an album of new material and both sides want to call it an 'album' to fulfil a contractual obligation?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

(ie doesn't really apply to Coldplay, probably does to, ooh, The Strokes)

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Or the Spice Girls.

With the token crap new track so that contractually it counts as a "new album."

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

The rest of Coldplay are Jim Packwood (guitar), B.G. Grimes (bass) and Gary Miller (drums).

xpost timing! Ah no matter, who knows who they are? Not me for a kickov.

The Strokes have more than 6 hits? Who knew!

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

You're pulling my leg, Dingbod. Cosmo Brown was the starting Turnbuckle for the East St Louis Phlegmatics during the 2001/2 season. Scored a great pipecock against the Arkansas Chuggabugs, as I recall.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Somebody on the breakfast news was quoting some lolworthy shit about flowers and candles this morning

'flowers & candles' often = code for druqs expenses

stevie, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but this is Coldplay so I took him at his word.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

The Strokes have more than 6 hits? Who knew!

Libertines released Greatest Hits album drawing upon 2 albums' worth of material.

stevie, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

The other three members of Coldplay are Shadrach (guitar), Meshach (bass) and Abednego (drums).

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

Libertines released Greatest Hits album drawing upon 2 albums' worth of material.

Something's got to pay for the flowers and candles.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

I just checked: Strokes 8 hits, Libs 6.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

xxp: Coldplay is one person, dummy.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

xxp: Coldplay is one dummy, person.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

xxp: dummy is one person, Coldplay.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

What, like Ray Alan and Lord Charles?

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

and their big hits, "Yerrow" and "Truggle"

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

Released on their own Silly Arse imprint.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

Coldplay's hits;

35 Coldplay Shiver Mar 2000 Notes
4 Coldplay Yellow Jul 2000
10 Coldplay Trouble Nov 2000
2 Coldplay In My Place Aug 2002
10 Coldplay The Scientist Nov 2002
9 Coldplay Clocks Apr 2003
2 Coldplay Speed Of Sound Jun 2005
4 Coldplay Fix You Sep 2005
10 Coldplay Talk Dec 2005
37 Coldplay Fix You (re-entry) Jan 2006

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

Obviously can't have Fix You twice, so stick on early pre-fame singles (2), plus Clocks trance remix and two new songs; hey presto, 14 tracks.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hang on, what happened to "God put a smile on your face"?

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

Never an actual single.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

They're to be commended, I feel, for not overdoing the singles from each album. 3 is a healthy number, I feel.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'd quite like to hear a Coldplay cover of "Make 'Em Laugh" actually.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

well, it means i've only heard 9 coldplay songs, which is some kind of a result.

xpostt

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

My mole tells me that some of the acts to be dropped from EMI have already been informed; one UK indie band certainly knew about it yesterday.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

guess The Departure aren't going to get their second album out then

mark e, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

They could always burn some CDs themselves and place them straight in the MVE bargain racks, thereby cutting out the middleman.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Both Louis J@gger and Gomez gone in one week?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

which all reminds me, i wonder if that Athlete album last year even covered costs with the constant Dreary O Leary plugging on Radio 2 ?
thats gotta be the way forward, 'sponsorship' by on-board Radio DJs who are fans.
payola in reverse.

mark e, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'll be sorry if Athlete are culled, as I thought that last album was actually rather good: a definite case of an Album I Rate from a Genre I Hate.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

they are pretty solid i'd say.
they have a healthy following dont they ?
anyway, lets speculate away, well at least until the posts start appearing on various official myspace pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musicians_signed_to_EMI

mark e, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

Annie Lennox was dropped, so says yahoo...

2for25, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

where's those damn maracas?

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

Heaven needed a self important oh where's Dom when you needim?

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

"jazz hands" : http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/inthenews/0,,2241108,00.html

mark e, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

And she's not even signed to EMI!

From "ShowbizSpy..."

Singer Annie Lennox has been dropped by her record label — in what she’s called a shocking snub and a “kick in the teeth”.

The “No More I Love You’s” star, 53, was left shocked when her label, Sony BMG suddenly began ignoring her weeks before her contract was due to expire.

The former Eurythmics singer - one of the most successful female artists ever - has been hit hard by the shabby treatment. She said: “They totally ignored me. It was bizarre, a kick in the teeth.

“They didn’t even pick up phone calls or emails for three weeks. I’m trying to find out what’s behind it. Probably a good thing that I’m no longer with them - mild understatement. Unless it’s them trying to tell me something… Hello!”

Annie - whose last album reached number in the UK chart last October, added to Britain’s Daily Mirror newspaper: “It feels like I’m spent, as if I’ve completely run out of energy. I’m now out of contract with Sony BMG.

“I’m going to take my time over the coming months to figure out what to do with this freedom.”

One of her plans is a clear-out and charity sale of possessions on eBay. Annie said: “It’ll be a great big jumble sale.”

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

(I like how they left a gap for the album's chart position, to be filled in when they found out...)

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

123? 76?

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Well, to be fair, it was number 7 in October 2007.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

That'll teach her to rant about Radiohead-style downloading!

Perhaps it'll also teach Radio 2 to play music its listeners actually like.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Erm, reaching the end of your contract isn't exactly being dropped, is it?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

The “No More I Love You’s” star

reads really strange, this sort of description.

blueski, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

"The 'Walking On Broken Glass' star" weirder/less weird?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

"The "Why" star" seems about right.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

There must be a tax bill playing with her heart.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Taxcrime

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

used to seeing 'the X star' for actors, not so much for recording artistes

blueski, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

At least they didn't call her the 'Diva' diva.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Bet she's kicking herself for turning down Dancing On Ice.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

At least they didn't call her the 'Diva' diva.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

they shoulda, that's good! </ smash hits reader>

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

How desperate must a record company be to depend on FEEDER for financial security?

you may not like them marcello but they are pretty damned successful. had you done some actual research yadda yadda zzzz.

stevie, Friday, 18 January 2008 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8039773.stm

Music giant EMI tripled its earnings over the past year, helped by cost-cutting measures that reportedly caused a near-revolt by its artists.

The company generated underlying earnings of £163m between March 2008 and 2009, against £51m the year before.

It is the first full year EMI has been under the ownership of the private equity group Terra Firma.

In 2008, the new owners shed 2,000 of EMI's 5,500 members of staff worldwide, which saved it £48m this year.

Radiohead exit

Senior members of EMI's board also lost their jobs in the takeover, leading to fears the label would lose its creative edge.

Radiohead, one of the label's biggest acts, left EMI saying the new owners did not understand the music industry.

At the time, Radiohead guitarist Ed O'Brien said: "It's been taken over by somebody who's never owned a record company before."

The band's lead singer Thom Yorke later claimed music was being "devalued" by the involvement of a private equity firm treating bands "as simply part of their stock".

There were also reports Robbie Williams was refusing to make another album for EMI because he was worried the new management would not know how to promote it properly.

Warning to artists

More change was to come when Guy Hands, the owner of Terra Firma, imposed a new approach towards rewarding artists.

He warned them EMI would no longer promote musicians who demanded big advances on the salaries but did not deliver the hits.

Like other record companies EMI has suffered in recent years because of the decline in sales of CDs.

However, EMI said 35% of its income in the past year was generated by non-physical sales, such as music downloads over the internet.

"There is still a great deal of work to be done to restore EMI to its former greatness," said Elio Leoni-Sceti, who was hired last year as EMI's new chief executive.

He added the group could not afford to become "complacent".

The company said Coldplay's Viva La Vida album was their most successful product, claiming it was the world's best selling album in 2008.

EMI is due to release Robbie Williams' latest album later in this year.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 May 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

and yet...

Troubled record company EMI is in the news again for all the wrong reasons, as its current owner Terra Firma turns on the bank that financed the £4bn ($6.5bn) takeover.

Private equity dealmaker Guy Hands, fighting to salvage his reputation, thinks Citigroup set him up by not telling him other players had pulled out of the bidding war in 2007.

For its part, Citigroup says it will defend its role in the proceedings "vigorously".

But while the legal battle rages, EMI is still showing its peerless expertise in exploiting the crown jewels of its back catalogue.

(...)

Now, just when long-suffering collectors thought their wallets were safe from further attack, EMI has returned to the fray with two more repackage jobs.

One is a "Christmas pack" containing four of the most acclaimed Beatles albums - Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road.

The other is an extremely limited apple-shaped USB drive containing the Beatles' works in MP3 and Flac formats - the only way to obtain the band's music legally as digital files, since none of their songs are available from download sites.

(...)

EMI is not the only record company turning past glories into a present-day revenue stream, although the near-£200 price tag on its Beatles box sets has angered many fans.

But the latest back-catalogue bonanza could be EMI's last big chance to make serious money from its most valuable tunes - in Europe, at least.

At present, record labels have exclusive rights to sell sound recordings in the EU for a period of 50 years. After that, other companies can put out their own editions.

Unless the law is changed, the first Beatles record, Love Me Do, will go out of copyright at the end of 2012.

In April, the European Parliament voted to extend the copyright protection to 70 years, but the move has still to be approved by the European Council.

In the US, the picture is very different. Thanks to a series of overlapping federal and state laws, virtually all sound recordings are subject to legal protection until 2067.

However, multinational record companies would be reluctant to invest the time and effort that went into the Beatles' remastering if they could not be sure of reaping a worldwide return.

No future?

So why is EMI still reliant on music that was recorded in the last century? Why has it not discovered new talents that can reduce its dependence on the archives?

Well, the label does boast the likes of Robbie Williams, Lily Allen and Coldplay on its current roster.

But all those artists were signed before the company was taken over by Guy Hands' private equity firm, Terra Firma, in 2007.

In the two-and-a-half years since the deal was done, EMI has attracted attention in various ways, but musical creativity has not been one of them.

Artists who prided themselves on their originality did not warm to a new boss who was routinely described in profiles as "karaoke-loving".

For his part, Mr Hands took a look at EMI's bottom line and was appalled.

"We discovered that new music over the last 18 months had lost £130m," he told the BBC in January 2008.

"In fact, new music had not been profitable ever since the digital age arrived."

Furniture music

Mr Hands' cost-cutting methods were part of the standard turnaround tactics employed by private equity firms, in their quest to revamp underperforming companies and sell them on.

However, such an approach had never been tried at a record company before - and the results were counter-productive.

Radiohead, the Rolling Stones and even ex-Beatle Sir Paul McCartney decided they had had enough of EMI, all jumping ship to seek other deals.

"Everybody at EMI had become part of the furniture," Sir Paul said when he left in 2007.

"I'd be a couch, Coldplay are an armchair. Robbie Williams, I dread to think what he was."

But the fundamental problem was that Terra Firma had paid too much for EMI at the height of the private equity boom, making the resulting debt - most of it owed to investment bank Citigroup - unsustainable.

After Citigroup refused to write off £1bn of that debt in exchange for a further cash injection from Mr Hands, relations soured.

That prompted Terra Firma's legal action against the bank - in essence, an attempt to blame Citigroup for the high cost of the EMI deal.

Back at the sharp end of the business, EMI is already running into problems with that Beatles USB stick.

A design fault means that quite a number of the drives have arrived with the apple's stalk snapped off, and disgruntled fans are clamouring for replacements.

The item is starting to look like a metaphor for Terra Firma's acquisition of EMI: something that seemed like a good idea at the time, but rapidly turned into an expensive liability.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:18 (sixteen years ago)

Guy Hands didn't even understand the concept of a record company advance *after* Teffa Firma had taken in EMI, had to have it explained to him.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:03 (sixteen years ago)

r.williams clearly a stool

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:07 (sixteen years ago)

poor guy hands, im sure everyone feels sorry for him

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

guy hands has man arms

abanana, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

Unless the law is changed, the first Beatles record, Love Me Do, will go out of copyright at the end of 2012.

The Mayans were right.

da croupier, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Music group EMI will report it has lost around £1.5bn in the last financial year

James Mitchell, Thursday, 4 February 2010 11:08 (sixteen years ago)

See, my theory always was:

that the board sold to Guy Hands et al, to 1) prevent the label/organisation being subsumed into Universal, and becoming a boutique label along with Decca, Polydor, etc., and 2) to have someone who had more money than sense hold the entitlement for a while, and when they've reduced the value of it, buy it back for a pittance, and keep the difference.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 February 2010 11:22 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://blogs.news.sky.com/kleinman/Post:59456315-530d-4c17-a013-dea12c839c5b

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:20 (sixteen years ago)

UPDATE 17:05: EMI has asked me to correct the original version of this post, which said that Madonna was one of the company's artists - she isn't.

Mark G, Saturday, 1 May 2010 08:20 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12339299

US banking giant Citigroup has taken over the ownership of EMI, the record label where it was the major creditor.

Under the terms of the deal, EMI's debt has been reduced by 65% from £3.4bn to £1.2bn.

In 2007, Citigroup loaned money to Guy Hands' private equity firm Terra Firma to enable it to buy EMI.

But the takeover proved to be a failure, with Terra Firma widely seen as having massively overpaid for the company.

EMI said it would continue under the same management and that it was now completely separate from its previous owner

Citigroup said it would eventually sell EMI.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

Bye Guy!

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

according to various mailouts (CMU basically) there have been rumours that this would happen, thereby allowing Mr Hands to then get funding and buy EMI again for a much reduced price !

mark e, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 07:45 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

UK music firm EMI has said it will sell its recorded music unit for £1.2bn ($1.9bn) to Universal Music.

Reports have suggested that the other half of EMI's business - the lucrative music publishing unit - will go to a Sony-led consortium for more than $2bn.

EMI, with a history dating back to 1897, is home to artists including Coldplay, the Beatles and Pink Floyd.

Citigroup seized ownership of EMI in February after previous owner Terra Firma failed a solvency test.

"I particularly welcome the fact that EMI will once again be owned by people who really do have music in their blood," said Rolling Stones singer Sir Mick Jagger.

The manager of Coldplay also welcomed Universal.

"They have assembled the most talented group of executives in the industry today and their success speaks for itself," Dave Holmes said.

Universal Music is a unit of Vivendi, the French media company.

Troubled history

EMI's labels include Blue Note, Capitol, Parlophone and Virgin Records.

Labels included under the Universal umbrella are Def Jam, Motown, Decca, Island Records, Interscope Records and Polydor Records.

"For me, as an Englishman, EMI was the pre-eminent music company that I grew up with," said Universal Music chairman and chief executive Lucian Grainge. "Its artists and their music provided the soundtrack to my teenage years."

He added: "Universal Music Group is committed to both preserving EMI's cultural heritage and artistic diversity and also investing in its artists and people to grow the company's assets for the future."

In June, EMI said it would launch a strategic review into the future of the business, which it said could result in a sale, share flotation, or a restructuring of its finances.

Private equity firm Terra Firma, led by Guy Hands, bought EMI for £4.2bn in 2007 just before the credit crunch sent the global financial markets into turmoil.

It subsequently admitted that it had overpaid for EMI, and struggled to meet payments on the £2.6bn it had borrowed from Citigroup to fund the deal.

Last year, Terra Firma took Citigroup to court in the US, accusing the bank of tricking it into paying an inflated price for EMI. It lost the case, with a jury ruling in favour of Citigroup.

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:54 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Boom.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/22/business/global/universal-takeover-of-emi-music-is-approved.html?hp

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Shall we have a whip-round and buy Parlophone?

We could get "ILX has a Bucket" pressed in lim-ed Vinyl!

Mark G, Friday, 21 September 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

Annnnd Parlaphone is retired and divvied up:

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/global/5840082/coldplay-david-guetta-go-to-atlantic-records-radiohead-pink-floyd

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)

Under the new structure, Warner Bros. Records will distribute new releases from Damon Albarn, Kylie Minogue, Lily Allen, Bat For Lashes, Eliza Doolittle, Conor Maynard, Gabrielle Aplin, among others, and catalog titles from Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Blur, Gorillaz, Radiohead, Kraftwerk, Supergrass and Sinead O’Connor. Atlantic Records will distribute new releases from three additional artists – Coldplay, Tinie Tempah and, through dance imprint Big Beat, David Guetta.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

pobrecito

The Reverend, Saturday, 11 April 2015 10:34 (eleven years ago)


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