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Anybody flames you Anthony I got yer back :-)

(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)

In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah

(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, and that's actually all I've heard. and that extra glenns leonard cohen cover. so don't take this as a "I've heard your work and I say nay! review." I'm damn ign'nt re: body of work but the zeitgeist thing was buggin' me.

I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.

Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Like Lou Reed's New York done right but that doesn't mean I find time to listen that often. "Going to Georgia" is heartrending spectacular for sure though.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Nadgers. Road Trip it is, then.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The best-of-Mountain-Goats CD-R I made for a friend a few months ago goes:

1. Cubs in Five
2. Family Happiness
3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back
4. Going to Port Washington
5. Going to Alaska
6. Going to Marrakesh
7. Golden Boy
8. No Children
9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers
10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days
11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song
12. Anti-Music Song
13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!
14. No, I Can’t
15. Orange Ball of Hate
16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?
17. Standard Bitter Love Song #4
18. Standard Bitter Love Song #8
19. Love Cuts the Strings
20. Seed Song
21. Water Song
22. The Window Song
23. Jam Eater Blues
24. Two Thousand Seasons
25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton
26. The Sign

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I really love All Hail West Texas!, The Coroner's Gambit and Zopilote Machine and like most of the others. I get really into them (him, whatever) and listen to nothing else for weeks, then not listen for quite a while.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not...

...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)

the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons

Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

You can hear an interview (including, I think, his cover of "The Sign") here:

http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml

just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the songs on All Hail West Texas a lot, but the sound quality is so shitty (I know, there's an aesthetic at work there) that I can't play any of it on the radio (there's an aesthetic there TOO), and that makes me mad.
How's the sound on the other stuff?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude, Tortoise doesn't need Darnielle to laugh, that's the reason they had Kevin Drumm open for them on their last tour!

I have no further contribution to make to this thread.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Tortoise fans can laugh? They must have learned from all the derisive snickering I direct towards 'em.

JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Naw they hired him so they could laugh. They could care less whether their fans do or not.

Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

At the risk of embarrassing myself in front of the man himself, pretty much every release has great moments, & there's a lot of them. Guess I tend to lean towards the early (_Hot Garden Stomp_, _Hound Dog Chronicles_) & late (_Full Force..._, _Coroners..._) periods.

Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.

Enough already.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow, Mountain Goats John here, never knew.

Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"

David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

i feel dumb trying to post to this thread when mr d himself is around, but here goes all the same...

horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)

i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.

, Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.

[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Aww, I would be happy to ship you the Faygo -- I think it is a worthy project.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

raggy 2 dope

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

unless you pronounce it "Ra-jay", Ned.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Nope. It's Irish not French, so you got it right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (twenty-three years ago)

saw them live in london at the ICA. I enjoyed it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i hadn't realized how well known he was until this new album came out and there's reviews everywhere (fairly good write up in todays london times,for example,which suggests that the mountain goats could be this years flaming lips,in terms of crossover appeal)(a lot of people probably wouldn't see that as a compliment,but i was surprised that their profile was that high)
initially i heard of them and thought oh,that guy from ilx with that last plane to jakarta site has a band now?
i'm curious now,i must look into getting some of the stuff recommended upthread...

robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Today's Times: The Mountain Goats: set to be this year's The Flaming Lips.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

my new fave band, as of two days ago! are any of the live shows floating around on soulseek worth getting?

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the flashing lights song a lot

liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (twenty-three years ago)

So are the Mountain Goats going to have to retire "Cubs In Five" now that the Tampa Bay Bucs have, indeed, made it all the way to January?

God, I hope not.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

CFBX 92.5 FM, 5 Watts
Kamloops, BC
Charts to January 31, 2003

3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)

from norman records-

4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

John: Play Portland. Come play Portland. There are a bunch of us planning on driving down for the upcoming SF show but, really, it would be nice to see you without driving 9 hours... So, in summation, come play Portland.

Please.

Thank you.

Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and for the people wondering where to start: I say just go with All Hail West Texas! You'll love the first song and want to put it on a mix tape right away. Also there's a song on it called "Riches and Wonders" which will heart fall into your toes. And when the song is over, and you are a puddle of curious and hauting emotions on the floor, John will look up from the Panasonic and say, "Oh, you liked that one? Wait, let me play you this other song I just whipped off..." and then "The Mess Inside" will start playing and you will hate him for writing such beautiful songs and rubbing them in your face.

There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

MY favourite song of the ones i´ve heard yet is The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton and the cover of The sign have been on a lot of mixtapes.
I hope i don´t miss you when you play Sweden in like two weeks

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

don't worry keith - Phil only seems to like electronica and krautrock..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

actually I love the mountain goats records I have but the one song I heard fromt he new one sounded, worryingly, a bit like Live.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)

What?! Any idea which song it was?

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:28 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
sssshhhhh, I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me...I got Tallahassee about a week ago (my first MG purchase), and I love it. I would ask for more reccommendations, but I'll just follow the advice upthread. I also started reading Last Plane To Jakarta after he linked to that great Comets On Fire piece about PAs in shopping malls. Class.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me

IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE CLASS, MR. NORDIC?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I really enjoy Last Plane to Jakarta, and I really enjoy Tallahassee. I need more mtn goats. More old stuff with tape hiss. Where can I gat some?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.3bos.com is one place with the three comps of hissy compilation, cassette, etc tracks.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

i was a pretty big fan in high school with a couple tapes, an lp and a cd but i haven't had much of an urge to listen to any of it in at least four or five years and haven't heard anything since sweden or nothing for juice.

i still get a little thrill when i see j*hn's name come up on a thread though. feels like hollywood.

brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

psst--don't tell anyone, but I'm going to see TMG for the first time when he opens for Lifter motherfucking Puller June 6 in Minneapolis (am attending all three LP shows thankyouverymuch). I hope he doesn't bash me over his head w/his guitar for calling him a terrorist on MTV2.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I suppose if I want to see that show I should go get in line right now. Advance tickets are sold out already.

Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

And you know people are seriously going to come from all over the country and stuff. damn lifter puller and all their post-mortem press!

Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
i wonder if we'll ever get to hear the "behind the music" story of rachel...

this is all i know: perfect harmony, great bassplaying, takes the lead on "going to queens".

also what reggae song is the snippet from the beginning of "sept 19 triple x love! love!" from?

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha TS: TMG vs. TMBG!!!!

(ps J0hn somehow I hadn't heard this stuff for long time but am now the proud owner of All Hail West Texas which is friggin fabulous and really helped me not feel like a reanimated corpse yesterday morning)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, I am an ass.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

umm, john, if you ever come to new orleans, i promise i'll get as many people as i can get to go, as it's not too hard to convert people into MG fandom. Also, if you'd like, i could get together a few friends to open for you as an MG cover band, perhaps "the hospital bombers." of course, we wouldnt just be acoustic. about 1/3 of the time i spend listening to your music is spent giddily re-arranging the song for a different genre. its very exciting. so get down here already. BTW when's the new album coming out?

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Sinead’s on Goodbye Jumbo too.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 March 2026 23:20 (two months ago)

These are great. I loved MCC's 90s records, back when it wasn't exactly cool for a teenage boy to do so. Don't know if I ever heard the World Party song, but like fgti (and JD), I'm a huge Christine Fellows fan. Full album please!

cryptosicko, Sunday, 8 March 2026 15:36 (two months ago)

one month passes...

Playing Auckland tonight! Just saw a photo of J0hn with Chris Knox <3 <3 <3

etc, Friday, 10 April 2026 00:56 (one month ago)

Was a really, really lovely show; got to hang with a very former NZ ILXor who attended the Wellington and Sydney shows as well. They played "Dutch Orchestra Blues", which made me realise I somehow never got around to hearing the New Asian Cinema/Isopanisad Radio Hour/Devil in the Shortwave EPs - that's been fun.

Ned, how's This Year: 365 Annotated Songs? In my imagination it was a coffeetable book a la Sondheim's Finishing The Hat, but spotted someone at the show with a copy and it looked more like a regular book.

etc, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 21:35 (one month ago)

It is a regular book! A large one but very readable and enjoyable, unsurprisingly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 21:54 (one month ago)

four weeks pass...

New album announced:

https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/days

...and an incredible detail, from Bluesky:

because I don't prepare my remarks & get excited I forgot to mention the most surprising surprise guest on the new record: Janis Siegal from Manhattan Transfer. as people who've been here a while know, "Manhattan Transfer Stan Account" used to be my bio. That was not in jest, and I am SO STOKED

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 14:30 (three weeks ago)

Also, amazing titles here:

1. Song for Layne Staley
2. Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds
3. Shallow Grave
4. Candlebox
5. Annie Haslam Imperial Phase
6. Crying on Eddie Nash's Grave
7. Days
8. Best Hard Rock Albums 2013
9. Going to Fennario
10. Woodstock '99
11. Hidden Majesty of Later Venom Albums
12. Last Day

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 14:31 (three weeks ago)

First single, “Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds” is about the time Charlie Sheen mistook a Japanese horror film for a genuine snuff film.

As mentioned on this Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_(film_series)"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_(film_series)

Guessed as much from the title! Perfect fit for a Mountain Goats song.

Travisssss, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:03 (three weeks ago)

"Best Hard Rock Albums 2013" aside, the song titles suggest a '90s fixation this time 'round.

cryptosicko, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:08 (three weeks ago)

New Sunn record also has song that name checks Venom, "Does Anyone Hear Like Venom?" seems like the time is ripe for someone to re-press the Venom "Live" 7"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:26 (three weeks ago)

xp - social media sez, "these songs are loosely about the 70s, 80s, and 90s, which is to say they're about the accumulation of days..."

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:30 (three weeks ago)

Is "Best Hard Rock Albums 2013" an old ILM thread

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:48 (three weeks ago)

honestly I was skimming the titles too quickly at first and thought it was "Crying on Kevin Nash's Grave" which, y'know, would also fit thematically and make an awesome Mountain Goats song.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:58 (three weeks ago)

lol was very confused by "Annie Haslam Imperial Phase," because Annie Haslam is a local notable here, daughter of former Gov. Bill Haslam. But then I realized Annie Haslam was also the lead singer of Renaissance and that makes more sense.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 18:15 (three weeks ago)

Amazing from Steve Lieber:

Had to draw fan art for the new single from @themountaingoats.bsky.social

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lmypktsvan46wejxmz5xwd6l/bafkreiboxbhyukjekn7rf35ytjbwoqtdnf2gbdle4hx677d7i2zz4xueiq

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 22:47 (three weeks ago)

wonderful tracklist

ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 23:22 (three weeks ago)

Catching up with songs from the book, it is lovely to see people in the youtube comments sections refer to each other as a book club, as they discover songs, say what the songs mean to them, memories etc.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 15 May 2026 09:49 (three weeks ago)

Looking forward to the new album of course, but did we talk enough about how good last year’s record was? I played it again this morning.

cryptosicko, Friday, 15 May 2026 13:31 (three weeks ago)

two weeks pass...

To cryptosicko: we did not, but yes, it rules.

Meantime, this rules too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PEJmPTIzqk

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 May 2026 14:27 (one week ago)

Yup!

cryptosicko, Friday, 29 May 2026 15:04 (one week ago)

the older i get, the more i'm convinced "You or Your Memory" -> "Broom People" -> "This Year" is the greatest 1-2-3 opener off any album.

My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Friday, 29 May 2026 17:30 (one week ago)


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