(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)
In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah
(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)
I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.
Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)
1. Cubs in Five2. Family Happiness3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back4. Going to Port Washington5. Going to Alaska6. Going to Marrakesh7. Golden Boy8. No Children9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song12. Anti-Music Song13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!14. No, I Can’t15. Orange Ball of Hate16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?17. Standard Bitter Love Song #418. Standard Bitter Love Song #819. Love Cuts the Strings20. Seed Song21. Water Song22. The Window Song23. Jam Eater Blues24. Two Thousand Seasons25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton26. The Sign
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-three years ago)
...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)
the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons
Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)
http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml
― just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)
I have no further contribution to make to this thread.
― hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)
Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.
― hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)
Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.
Enough already.
― Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)
Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"
― David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)
horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)
i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.
― , Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)
That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)
I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.
[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (twenty-three years ago)
God, I hope not.
― mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)
3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)
― Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)
4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....
― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)
Please.
Thank you.
Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".
― Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-three years ago)
There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.
― Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE CLASS, MR. NORDIC?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)
i was a pretty big fan in high school with a couple tapes, an lp and a cd but i haven't had much of an urge to listen to any of it in at least four or five years and haven't heard anything since sweden or nothing for juice.
i still get a little thrill when i see j*hn's name come up on a thread though. feels like hollywood.
― brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)
this is all i know: perfect harmony, great bassplaying, takes the lead on "going to queens".
also what reggae song is the snippet from the beginning of "sept 19 triple x love! love!" from?
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)
(ps J0hn somehow I hadn't heard this stuff for long time but am now the proud owner of All Hail West Texas which is friggin fabulous and really helped me not feel like a reanimated corpse yesterday morning)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
Sinead’s on Goodbye Jumbo too.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 March 2026 23:20 (two months ago)
These are great. I loved MCC's 90s records, back when it wasn't exactly cool for a teenage boy to do so. Don't know if I ever heard the World Party song, but like fgti (and JD), I'm a huge Christine Fellows fan. Full album please!
― cryptosicko, Sunday, 8 March 2026 15:36 (two months ago)
Playing Auckland tonight! Just saw a photo of J0hn with Chris Knox <3 <3 <3
― etc, Friday, 10 April 2026 00:56 (one month ago)
Was a really, really lovely show; got to hang with a very former NZ ILXor who attended the Wellington and Sydney shows as well. They played "Dutch Orchestra Blues", which made me realise I somehow never got around to hearing the New Asian Cinema/Isopanisad Radio Hour/Devil in the Shortwave EPs - that's been fun.
Ned, how's This Year: 365 Annotated Songs? In my imagination it was a coffeetable book a la Sondheim's Finishing The Hat, but spotted someone at the show with a copy and it looked more like a regular book.
― etc, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 21:35 (one month ago)
It is a regular book! A large one but very readable and enjoyable, unsurprisingly.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 21:54 (one month ago)
New album announced:
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/days
...and an incredible detail, from Bluesky:
because I don't prepare my remarks & get excited I forgot to mention the most surprising surprise guest on the new record: Janis Siegal from Manhattan Transfer. as people who've been here a while know, "Manhattan Transfer Stan Account" used to be my bio. That was not in jest, and I am SO STOKED
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 14:30 (three weeks ago)
Also, amazing titles here:
1. Song for Layne Staley2. Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds 3. Shallow Grave4. Candlebox5. Annie Haslam Imperial Phase6. Crying on Eddie Nash's Grave7. Days8. Best Hard Rock Albums 20139. Going to Fennario10. Woodstock '9911. Hidden Majesty of Later Venom Albums12. Last Day
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 14:31 (three weeks ago)
First single, “Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds” is about the time Charlie Sheen mistook a Japanese horror film for a genuine snuff film.
As mentioned on this Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_(film_series)"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_(film_series)
Guessed as much from the title! Perfect fit for a Mountain Goats song.
― Travisssss, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:03 (three weeks ago)
"Best Hard Rock Albums 2013" aside, the song titles suggest a '90s fixation this time 'round.
― cryptosicko, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:08 (three weeks ago)
New Sunn record also has song that name checks Venom, "Does Anyone Hear Like Venom?" seems like the time is ripe for someone to re-press the Venom "Live" 7"
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:26 (three weeks ago)
xp - social media sez, "these songs are loosely about the 70s, 80s, and 90s, which is to say they're about the accumulation of days..."
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:30 (three weeks ago)
Is "Best Hard Rock Albums 2013" an old ILM thread
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:48 (three weeks ago)
honestly I was skimming the titles too quickly at first and thought it was "Crying on Kevin Nash's Grave" which, y'know, would also fit thematically and make an awesome Mountain Goats song.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 17:58 (three weeks ago)
lol was very confused by "Annie Haslam Imperial Phase," because Annie Haslam is a local notable here, daughter of former Gov. Bill Haslam. But then I realized Annie Haslam was also the lead singer of Renaissance and that makes more sense.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 18:15 (three weeks ago)
Amazing from Steve Lieber:
Had to draw fan art for the new single from @themountaingoats.bsky.social
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lmypktsvan46wejxmz5xwd6l/bafkreiboxbhyukjekn7rf35ytjbwoqtdnf2gbdle4hx677d7i2zz4xueiq
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 22:47 (three weeks ago)
wonderful tracklist
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 23:22 (three weeks ago)
Catching up with songs from the book, it is lovely to see people in the youtube comments sections refer to each other as a book club, as they discover songs, say what the songs mean to them, memories etc.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 15 May 2026 09:49 (three weeks ago)
Looking forward to the new album of course, but did we talk enough about how good last year’s record was? I played it again this morning.
― cryptosicko, Friday, 15 May 2026 13:31 (three weeks ago)
To cryptosicko: we did not, but yes, it rules.
Meantime, this rules too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PEJmPTIzqk
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 May 2026 14:27 (one week ago)
Yup!
― cryptosicko, Friday, 29 May 2026 15:04 (one week ago)
the older i get, the more i'm convinced "You or Your Memory" -> "Broom People" -> "This Year" is the greatest 1-2-3 opener off any album.
― My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Friday, 29 May 2026 17:30 (one week ago)