Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

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GIS "Phil Spector eats money" returns some... unpleasant results

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this is kind of a separate-but-related question - how does one format embedded pics so they're all of a uniform size? cuz I will be needing to do a lot of GISing for the results, presumably.

How about restricting your GIS to 'exactly' a specific size?

Set up a new photobucket account/album, save all your pictures to there and then edit them? At least you know they're all going to show up properly then.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, Can? This is ILM isn't it?

I mean, what's gone wrong here?

Everyone would send in the exact same ballot.

I really doubt that very much

Steely Dan?

i think there'll almost HAVE to be a nominations thread just to hash out stuff like producers vs. engineers, artists who only produced themselves, people who are chiefly remixers, producers who've worked extensively as a team or individually, etc.

― dogps (some dude), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

shakey i'd like to reiterate that you are in for so many headaches if you don't clarify this stuff really carefully and maybe let people debate certain inclusions or exclusions a little bit before voting even starts.

Right, because I'm still not sure if we're voting for producers, or songs produced by certain producers, or all songs ever produced in the history of recorded music...

We're voting for the producers themselves -- like, my shortlist of noms would include Teo Macero, Lee Perry, Jim Dickinson -- off the top of my head...

We're voting for the producers themselves

^^^this. the "team" thing is tricky but I don't really know why anyone would want to vote specifically for Hank Shocklee instead of the Bomb Squad, for example. or Jimmy Jam instead of Terry Lewis. I can't think of any well-regarded production teams that didn't stick together for the most part.

eno/lanois/lillywhite maybe, but yeah, teams aren't that big a concern, compared to engineers and remixers and self-producing artists (who aren't always billed as producers but obviously are)

engineers and remixers and self-producing artists (who aren't always billed as producers but obviously are)

these will all count (excluding Albini, for example - which is mentioned upthread somewhere - seems sort of silly the more I thought about it)

so wait any engineer only ever billed as an engineer can be voted for EXCEPT Albini? that seems kind of spiteful.

(excluding Albini ... seems sort of silly the more I thought about it)

No. Excluding Albini on a technicality is what seemed silly.

oh ok the way that sentence was phrased confused me

apart from Albini - who has been characteristically dickish about his working "title" - I can't really think of any well-known engineers who have not, at one time or another, been credited as producers. I mean who do you have in mind here? Geoff Emerick? one of Eno's studio techs?

Glad you had a change of heart on that one. Rudy Van Gelder 4 lyfe!

should we really count self producing-artists?

yeah see Van Gelder should totally qualify - that he's credited as a "recording engineer" rather than a "producer" is a bit of a distinction without a difference.

re: self-producing artists - why not?

maybe I should just start this fucking thread already

Clinton counts right?

No way, he's DQ'd for claiming he didn't inhale.

been on a Kate Bush bender lately, lookin forward to that one

I just sent in my Stevie Wonder ballot and I'm skipping the producers poll.
I have the complete Pulp discography lined up in Foobar, so bring on the discussion thread!

Hah! Pulp discussion thread to come soon! But not today.

Should the "All Seeing I" album be included in the Pulp ballot?

Hmmm. I suppose I shall open it up to side/solo projects, if only to get that magnificent 'Ciao!' to place.

That's good, there's 3 or 4 songs on Jarvis's debut solo album which will definitely make my list.

triffic.

Good to hear! I know Angela will definitely make mine.

would there be enough ILM love for The Misfits to rally around a ballot poll?

Bump for people who keep an eye out for this thread for updates -- the Producers poll is ongoing -- I Wanna Be a POLLducer: The Voting thread for Producers, Recording Engineers, and Studio Wizards -- so go vote!

I was toying with R Kelly today. I know little about him, but my impression is he could be fun. Seems silly to commit a year in advance though.

Better than committing 18-24 months in advance if a bunch of other people jump in.

r. kelly poll would be great

Would be a travesty if "I Believe I Could Fly" didn't take the top spot, though. ilxor continuity demands it.

the space jam ost won the 90s poll purely on the strength of the monstars' anthem though

could i vote 'video where he pees in an underage girls mouth' for worst track? also where do you stand trapped in a closet, vote as 1 or 12 individual tracks? aw hell its cool we have a while to think about these things

That video was credited to someone else aiui.

Annnnnnd we have a winner for Stevie!

> could i vote 'video where he pees in an underage girls mouth' for worst track?

geez like this would be normal and fine if the girl was older?

are you questioning whether it would be normal or whether i'd be cool with it if she was?

Oh what the hell, sign me up for R Kelly. Somebody follow up with Destiny's Child + solo tracks and we can have an R&B frenzy that month.

Jay-Z wasn't mentioned in this thread? He might be the only rap act (along with Wu) to fit all the criteria

classic status, large catalog, a lot of "unknown" gems (deep cuts?), unpredictable results, a strong following on ilm

I believe this was discussed during a Timbaland tracks poll

Somebody follow up with Destiny's Child + solo tracks and we can have an R&B frenzy that month.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i'm glad you phrased it this way, instead of the Beyonce/DC poll idea that'd been thrown around previously -- definitely need to have Kelly Rowland solo in the mix as well

i'd been on the fence about volunteering to do a Jay-Z poll (or doing a different hip hop poll first) but hey, it'd be fun to do it back to back with Kells, best of both worlds-style. sign me up!