Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

The dud polls (from my pov) are quite well spaced out to give me one-week-off-in-three type of thing, but I'm going to need extra stamina for this run:

12. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
13. James Brown - strongo
14. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP
15. David Bowie - chap
16. Paul Simon - Lamp
17. Rolling Stones - rogermexico

yeah, and for me that run also includes producers, Pulp and the Kinks. I will rest during Depeche Mode, ABBA and Fleetwood Mac

The only one I'm not looking forward to is the Neptunes poll; I couldn't bring myself to listen to a week of R&B for the Timbaland poll, and from what I know of them I expect Neptunes will be more of the same.

I only know the Cure and Sonic Youth discographies forward and back; the other artists more (GBV, Bowie) or less (Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, especially Miles), and I love these polls because of the systematic listening I really don't do often enough. (Hope I'm still as enthusiastic in 2013 as I am now, though...)

I love these polls because of the systematic listening I really don't do often enough.

Really, this. I'm giving a slightly better quality of attention to my listening these days, and listening outside my usual comfort-food zone.

yeah I like how this sorta became an 'ILM theme week'...also a good way for people to fill in mental gaps / learn more about an artist they're only sorta familiar with. I imagine the guided by voices poll results will be perfect for that.

Plus, it finally gives me the chance to actually use the headphones I got last year!

The only one I'm not looking forward to is the Neptunes poll; I couldn't bring myself to listen to a week of R&B for the Timbaland poll, and from what I know of them I expect Neptunes will be more of the same.

listen to this, you'll immediately get over it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8o_9RliwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhSnHxLVjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWLMrUcMZuo

As I said: more of the same :)

ugh @ you guys rushing the stevie poll

so I need to wait until the Stevie Wonder results start rolling out before I do the Producers one yes...?

someone should really step up and do XTC imho

getting pretty excited to talk about PULP! for two straight weeks!

Is there going to be a nominations thread for the producers or is straight into the voting? If the former then start the noms anytime now, otherwise wait until Eric starts rolling the results out.

a name i dont know enough about and would like to see maybe is tom waits

Is there going to be a nominations thread for the producers or is straight into the voting

straight into voting. of course, there will be a "voting" thread where people can discuss their nominations etc. unlike all the other polls, this will be the only one that is not genre-specific, so I'm hoping to get a fairly broad discussion going but eh who knows

maybe that wasn't clear - I am not planning on having everyone nominate a bunch of names and then restricting people's votes to that particular list. there will be a voting thread, where people can lobby for whatever they want and discuss who they will vote for. that thread will close and then there will be a results thread.

so I need to wait until the Stevie Wonder results start rolling out before I do the Producers one yes...?

Not necessarily -- I'd say fire up the balloting thread as soon as JF finishes the GBV results if you'd like to, especially since Producers is probably going to generate a good bit of chat and campaigning before the first ballots come in, and may need some extra time specifically for that campaigning. I think it would be cool to have two sets of polls open at any given time, as long as there aren't two sets of results rolling out at the same time.

this is kind of a separate-but-related question - how does one format embedded pics so they're all of a uniform size? cuz I will be needing to do a lot of GISing for the results, presumably.

(so pissed I can't find a copy of that photo of Phil Spector with a wad of bills in his mouth)

ahem

YESSSSS

GIS "Phil Spector eats money" returns some... unpleasant results

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2009/8/9/image-4-for-phil-spector-s-wigs-gallery-365477275.jpg

this is kind of a separate-but-related question - how does one format embedded pics so they're all of a uniform size? cuz I will be needing to do a lot of GISing for the results, presumably.

How about restricting your GIS to 'exactly' a specific size?

Set up a new photobucket account/album, save all your pictures to there and then edit them? At least you know they're all going to show up properly then.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, Can? This is ILM isn't it?

I mean, what's gone wrong here?

Everyone would send in the exact same ballot.

I really doubt that very much

Steely Dan?

i think there'll almost HAVE to be a nominations thread just to hash out stuff like producers vs. engineers, artists who only produced themselves, people who are chiefly remixers, producers who've worked extensively as a team or individually, etc.

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shakey i'd like to reiterate that you are in for so many headaches if you don't clarify this stuff really carefully and maybe let people debate certain inclusions or exclusions a little bit before voting even starts.

Right, because I'm still not sure if we're voting for producers, or songs produced by certain producers, or all songs ever produced in the history of recorded music...

We're voting for the producers themselves -- like, my shortlist of noms would include Teo Macero, Lee Perry, Jim Dickinson -- off the top of my head...

We're voting for the producers themselves

^^^this. the "team" thing is tricky but I don't really know why anyone would want to vote specifically for Hank Shocklee instead of the Bomb Squad, for example. or Jimmy Jam instead of Terry Lewis. I can't think of any well-regarded production teams that didn't stick together for the most part.

eno/lanois/lillywhite maybe, but yeah, teams aren't that big a concern, compared to engineers and remixers and self-producing artists (who aren't always billed as producers but obviously are)

engineers and remixers and self-producing artists (who aren't always billed as producers but obviously are)

these will all count (excluding Albini, for example - which is mentioned upthread somewhere - seems sort of silly the more I thought about it)

so wait any engineer only ever billed as an engineer can be voted for EXCEPT Albini? that seems kind of spiteful.

(excluding Albini ... seems sort of silly the more I thought about it)

No. Excluding Albini on a technicality is what seemed silly.

oh ok the way that sentence was phrased confused me

apart from Albini - who has been characteristically dickish about his working "title" - I can't really think of any well-known engineers who have not, at one time or another, been credited as producers. I mean who do you have in mind here? Geoff Emerick? one of Eno's studio techs?

Glad you had a change of heart on that one. Rudy Van Gelder 4 lyfe!

should we really count self producing-artists?

yeah see Van Gelder should totally qualify - that he's credited as a "recording engineer" rather than a "producer" is a bit of a distinction without a difference.

re: self-producing artists - why not?

maybe I should just start this fucking thread already

Clinton counts right?

No way, he's DQ'd for claiming he didn't inhale.

been on a Kate Bush bender lately, lookin forward to that one

I just sent in my Stevie Wonder ballot and I'm skipping the producers poll.
I have the complete Pulp discography lined up in Foobar, so bring on the discussion thread!

Hah! Pulp discussion thread to come soon! But not today.

Should the "All Seeing I" album be included in the Pulp ballot?

Hmmm. I suppose I shall open it up to side/solo projects, if only to get that magnificent 'Ciao!' to place.