rank the songs on nirvana's "nevermind"

"Lounge Act" is as effortless as the hits!

you like debbie gibson tho

who doesn't?

Would love to hear Debbie Gibson cover 'On A Plain' tbh

Snakes on a Plane! Mmmm-mmmm!

i just can't snake
your plane

Yes it's true
I'm on a
I'm on a
I'm on a
I'm on a pla-a-a-n-n-e.

doll SNAAAAAAAAAKE
test PLAAAAAAAAANE

waht

Lounge Act is fun to play on bass

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/1991-grunge-and-poses

"Lounge Act" is the best.

omg did you know it was out 20 years ago? i heard it was the record that changed everything, when people heard this shit they was all like WHAATT??

youve become an interesting troll

drain you and lounge act are the heart of this album

#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6livarlSRo

i hate this album

there's not a single tune on here that i prefer more to the versions on unplugged

I love the way it sounds but sometimes almost oppressively rigid in its verse-chorus structuring. A lot of the songs you could cleave many of these songs in half and both halves would be essentially the same. That's why "Lounge Act" is my favorite; it's asymmetrical. Instead of repeating itself it builds and smolders and ends on an unresolved note.

Lounge Act, On a Plain and maaaaybe Lithium are the only tracks I could be bothered to listen to now. It's always been their least exciting album overall.

i agree, the unplugged versions of all nevermind songs are better just for Kurt's vocals. he sounds like a wounded animal.

I love this album.

Territorial Pissings
Breed
Lounge Act
On a Plain
Come As You Are
In Bloom
Something In The Way
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Polly
Lithium
Drain You
Stay Away

Lithium
Drain You
On a Plain
Come as You Are
Something in the Way
Lounge Act
Polly
Breed
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Territorial Pissings
In Bloom
Stay Away

Lounge Act
Drain You
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Lithium
In Bloom
Stay Away
Polly
On a Plain
Breed
Endless, Nameless
Territorial Pissings
Come as You Are
Something in the Way

Great album, but those last three I'll probably actively skip for the rest of my life.

Ha -- I ranked some of the catalog last month.

On a Plain
Drain You
Lounge Act
Something in the Way
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Lithium
Territorial Pissings
Breed
Stay Away
Come As You Are
In Bloom
Polly

"Lounge Act" is the best.

― Euler, Friday, September 23, 2011 3:45 AM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Apart from "Polly" and "Something in the Way", which I could do without, I rank them all about the same these days.

https://pitchfork.com/news/nirvana-sued-by-baby-from-nevermind-album-artwork-for-child-pornography/

i'm not really a fan of the cover but that seems like a real stretch

He named Chad Channing as a defendant! That guy can’t catch a break.

jeez, that's the kind of lawsuit people talk about later in the "aren't all lawyers and people who sue just TERRIBLE" voice

Hard to take too seriously when he’s been cashing in on the cover for years. I mean, ffs, he recreated it in, what, 2016?

2016 seems to be when he started complaining about it. The links in that article really… tell a story.

Hope the guy eventually finds some peace (even if he doesn’t get a payout).

Yeah, so most recently in 2016, from a Spin article at the time:

Spencer Elden is 25 years old, but once, he was the baby on the iconic cover of Nirvana’s Nevermind, which was released 25 years ago today. Elden marked the album’s anniversary this weekend the best way he knows how: by recreating the shot for New York Post. He then told the Post that he prefers the Clash to Nirvana, which is fine, but still a little disappointing.

Elden also recreated the famous underwater pool photo for Nevermind’s tenth anniversary in 2001, for its 17th in 2008 , and for its 20th in 2011. “Every five years or so, somebody’s gonna call me up and ask me about Nevermind … and I’m probably gonna get some money from it,” he told Rolling Stone at age 12 in 2003. Keep chasing those dollars, dude.

I personally wouldn’t risk the Insta-flaming that could come with suing Courtney Love even if she ran over my foot with her car.

(re the 2016 reshoot)
"I said to the photographer, 'Let's do it naked.' But he thought that would be weird, so I wore my swim shorts," Spencer told the New York Post.

also ok um?
Elden's lawyer, Robert Y. Lewis, argues that the inclusion of the dollar bill (which was superimposed after the photograph was taken) makes the minor seem "like a sex worker"

he has Nevermind tattooed across his chest

Nevermind baby still chasing that dollar bill.

Actually is the cover of Nevermind (and picture of naked babies) allowed on FB et all or do they have a policy regarding that kind of things ?

Would be odd if this case goes in his favour and then they raid his house finding many copies of Nevermind

xp I got a fb post pulled down once for posting a youtube link to a song from 'Houses of the Holy.' I imagine the same has happened with many Nirvana posts.

The Houses of the Holy cover is suggestive—and gross—in a way that this cover isn’t.

That said, I see why he is annoyed that he has this notoriety he never asked for. I think the lawsuit is a stretch though. The dollar bill was a critique of consumerism and a commentary on the band itself “selling out.” Everyone knows that.

The Houses of the Holy cover is suggestive—and gross—in a way that this cover isn’t.

Never really saw it that way - what suggestiveness do you see there?

Background fwiw: https://dangerousminds.net/comments/houses_of_the_holy_the_backstory_to_the_famous_led_zeppelin_album_cover

But the algorithms or whatever don't really care if it's suggestive, gross or else, do they ?
It's not actual people from FB etc who pull down these things on line or is it ??

So bullet points 71-87 here seem to lay out their argument for why this is pornography: https://fr.scribd.com/document/521576572/Elden-v-Nirvana-L-L-C-et-al

Wrt this

74. To ensure the album cover would trigger a visceral sexual response
from the viewer, Weddle activated Spencer’s ‘gag reflex’ before throwing him
underwater in poses highlighting and emphasizing Spencer’s exposed genitals

and the references to the 'common strategy' of promoting rock albums with child-pornographic album covers, I'm wondering if the argument also rests on a premise that at least a significant number of the millions of people who bought the album or have seen the image are in fact deriving sexual titillation from it - if so, does that mean all of us should also be charged with possession of child pornography?

I guess points 106-111 also seem pertinent. Also

103. Spencer’s image created massive commercial success for Nirvana,
L.L.C. for which Spencer never received any compensation.

It seems curious to me that someone would raise this as an issue if they were also arguing that they were sexually exploited and an object of child pornography.

But obv IANAL and don't know Elden's experience

and the references to the 'common strategy' of promoting rock albums with child-pornographic album covers

one of the albums it references as a previous child porn album cover is Van Halen's Balance which was released after Nevermind and is maybe questionable but doesn't cross the line into 'child porn' at all? the others are notoriously gross ones which are absolutely deserving of the label child porn though and have received scrutiny for that in the past (though probably still not as much as they should have)

it seems like he's upset about not having gotten royalties or anything, and also now understandably feels weird about the cover, but the claims that it's deliberately sexually provocative & not just kinda in bad taste don't hold up at all