The Caretaker aka Leyland Kirby aka V/vm aka The Stranger

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Oh man... I can't even begin to imagine not having heard 'Persistent'! I'll guarantee you intense nostalgic satisfaction! :)

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

it absolutely kills me that I cannot find Persistent on vinyl, for a reasonable price or otherwise.

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Well, yeah. I was fortunate to be able to get one. Maybe try it on discogs?

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, you said reasonable price, nevermind... :-/

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 September 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

even Discogs & GEMM don't have any copies! I even emailed him directly to ax if he had any left but even I'm lolling at the idea of that. LE SIGH. on the plus side, I've gotten the colored pressings of everything he's put out this year apart from the first I&S (whose existence I discovered several weeks after its release) so at least my gotta-catch-em-all instincts are sated on that front.

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Friday, 16 September 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

sad lol @ gemm

Do you not want to listen to 'Persistent' if it is not vinyl? If not I will hook you up with the mp3's, just say the word.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

haha thanks man; I got it on CD already but I'm specifically looking for it on the Lord's own format.

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:48 (fourteen years ago)

I've been using The Caretaker album as naptime music for my baby since June. Works great.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:49 (fourteen years ago)

hey Le Bateau Ivre, we have v similar tastes and I know nothing about this dude's post-VVM projects, so maybe you could hit me up with an ILX webmail if you don't mind... also y'all have got me ordering from experimedia now between this and the Emeralds thread.

sleeve, Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

many xposts

(I bought the first Caretaker album when it came out, and then skipped them all until this year)

YOU MUST GET THIS IMMEDIATELY

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:41 (fourteen years ago)

Ah sorry (and thanks for the webmail) - was writing in a hurry, should have said that was what got me back into him again - so nothing between the first Caretaker album and that. Yeah, those pieces are more of the right length for me (although after 3 hours or so I tend to run out of enthusiasm for it).

toby, Saturday, 17 September 2011 07:49 (fourteen years ago)

Sleeve, check your email :)

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

just heard back!

The Caretaker album you ask about may be re-released on Vinyl next year at somepoint, all depends on interest and demand as represses are always expensive and a big risk if there’s not a demand as i work from more or less no money this end.

ILX HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

About which album is that?

Regardless, I'm down.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

Persistent Repetition

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

Well that is the one, so count me in.

I love how approachable he still is. He always answers, in a true way, too.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 17 September 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

and yes the new album is QUITE great.

Yes, yes it is. And it's suiting a grey and rainy morning brilliantly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

wait, what is the new album called? i can't find any reviews.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Eager to Tear Apart the Stars

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

while ILX was down (NEVAR FORGET) I finally managed to pick up a copy of Persistent Repetition on vinyl for $20 shipped! it hurt me in my heart not to be able to crow about my score to the two other people who read this thread; instead the only folks who heard were my neighbors who had to suffer through a few minutes of literal whooping & hollering when the auction ended. (there was also actually a second copy on eBay at the time which I wanted to bring interested parties itt but, well, yeah.)

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Thursday, 20 October 2011 06:41 (fourteen years ago)

Woohoo, congrats! And a very good price too, I might add, I've not seen them around that cheap before.

Here's a nice, extensive interview The Quietus had with him 10 days ago.

There's definitely something about Chris De Burgh, I think it's his eyebrows. Very strange eyebrows, Chris De Burgh. He's a very small man as well. I actually gave him a copy of the 'Lady In Red' mix I did on vinyl, I handed it to him and said 'I think you might know that one', and he just smiled at me. I never heard anything back, but he must have listened to it. He didn't want to sue me, so that's quite nice.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:45 (fourteen years ago)

Persistent Repetition is a god damned REVELATION on vinyl.

punk rock hyrax (jamescobo), Saturday, 29 October 2011 06:21 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

Patience for Sebald is FINALLY up for order on Boomkat!

DWARF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (jamescobo), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeaahhhhhhhh blue vinyl baby!

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

The patronage type thing he put together last year is still pretty great. I just get an email with a download link every once in a while when he releases new material. I think the Sebald one is included.

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

... and I received the link via email a couple minutes after posting that.

mh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

Heh, yeah I just got it too, from the digital subscription. Still ordering the blue vinyl though

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

I've said it a kajillion times in this thread but Kirby's stuff is always worth hearing on vinyl, if only to hear how world-class mastering can make a great record even better.

DWARF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (jamescobo), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

and so that you can get the cover art in big-ass size!

DWARF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (jamescobo), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

8.0 for Patience For Sebald from PF today:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16220-patience-after-sebald/

my copy just showed up last night, looking forward to listening to it!

also in a fit of profound fiscal irresponsibility I sprung for the only copy of A Stairway To The Stars available on the internet, which I think makes my Kirby/Caretaker vinyl collection complete (though I need to upgrade my copy of Intrigue & Stuff #1 to a clear-vinyl copy).

DWARF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (jamescobo), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Oof, good purchase!

Great and fitting review from Mark Richardson there. I'm already tempted to rate Patience (After Sebald) higher than all of his 2011 work, which is saying something.

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 28 January 2012 10:56 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzNE62HDr0

The Caretaker crooning a cover version of Barry Manilow. It doesn't get any better than this.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:22 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder if now is the time to liquidate my v/vm stuff

regal xenophobe (electricsound), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

To get a good price for it? Or because you hate the Manilow cover? ;)

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:06 (fourteen years ago)

Extra Patience (After Sebald) - Free download. We all love free downloads and as a show of thanks for your support and interest in my works I have uploaded a nine track mini album for free download.

It features a couple of alternate versions and exclusive audio which was used as part of the soundtrack to the above mentioned film but which didn't make the physical release of the album.

Download it, share it, enjoy it and remember it.

http://thecaretaker.bandcamp.com/album/extra-patience-after-sebald

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 07:55 (fourteen years ago)

My brain is all knotted up by this^ video

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:19 (fourteen years ago)

Must admit disappointment upon seeing black instead of transparent blue. Record is sounding very nice tho.

tomorrow, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Finally watched (and enjoyed) Gee's Patience (After Sebald). Would have enjoyed it less without The Caretaker's soundtrack.

djh, Friday, 28 December 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

He's been quiet of late, hasn't he?

djh, Monday, 7 January 2013 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

I liked that one from last year.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 7 January 2013 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

Has anyone ever compared the original tracks (by which I mean the sound-sources for the Caretaker's recordings)?

djh, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

XXXP: Well, quite. Given what a great author he was, all that fucking photographs of fireworks shit at the end was just plain insulting. "I took a photo of a firework... and it looks like his moustache!"

Oh do fuck off.

Doran, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, that was silly.

I must admit my interest in the film was a) liking the Caretaker and b) liking parts of that stretch of the coast ... and had never read Sebald and am now likely to.

djh, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

Annoyed that Caretaker AND Ben Frost AND Tim Hecker AND several other like-minded persons are doing a music festival in Adelaide, where I live and nothing like that ever happens, and I can't go.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 January 2013 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

Going through a major Caretaker phase.

djh, Saturday, 19 January 2013 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Is everything pre-"Patience" out of print?

djh, Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

Been hammering An Empty Bliss Beyond this World recently...what a perfect, heartbreaking, sentimental record that is. Sounds so...English?

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 28 February 2013 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'd been meaning to buy this but can't find it anymore.

djh, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

looks like Persistent Repetition of Phrases, An Empty Bliss, and Patience are all getting a repress. Experimedia says they'll be going out on May 8th apparently.

a duiving caTCH, a stuolllen bayeeeess (jamescobo), Sunday, 5 May 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

and seriously, do not sleep on the chance to get any of those three albums on vinyl; they sound SO damned good.

a duiving caTCH, a stuolllen bayeeeess (jamescobo), Sunday, 5 May 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

and there's a pay-what-you-want bonus download here:

https://thecaretaker.bandcamp.com/album/everywhere-an-empty-bliss

EVERYWHERE, AN EMPTY BLISS

*AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ONLY UNTIL JUNE 16th, 2019.

Work on 'Everywhere, at the end of time' was all consuming
as you can imagine. All work and no play, all work and no play.

In celebration of its completion and only for a limited time*
here is a surprise golden farewell.

Compliments of the house.

koogs, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:38 (seven years ago)

Part IV was the one that didn't really work for me -- abrasive for the sake of being abrasive. V was less heavy, but more devastating. VI seems to continue down that path, I'm loving it so far.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 March 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://boomkat.com/products/everywhere-an-empty-bliss

djh, Friday, 5 April 2019 20:06 (seven years ago)

hows this bloke made a living out of playing old 78s through a reverb pedal, proper dont get it

meaulnes, Saturday, 6 April 2019 01:45 (seven years ago)

I am enjoying it but did think similar things the other day - is he creating these things from scratch or curating them? And if the latter, where from, because I'd be interested in hearing the originals.

(Archive.org has a bunch of 78s available to listen to. British library site might also have some)

koogs, Saturday, 6 April 2019 05:24 (seven years ago)

Doesn't he break them all down into tiny bits and reassemble them, though? Like the Avalanches with a very specific pool of records.

And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Sunday, 7 April 2019 07:15 (seven years ago)

Go and listen to some of the records he samples and you'll hear how he isn't "playing them through a reverb pedal" ffs

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2019 08:18 (seven years ago)

That sounds plausible, yes. They are mostly devoid of vocals for one thing and I think they've been spooked up a bit. I like them, I bought the first Haunted Ballroom thing back in the day, but I can see why people wouldn't.

koogs, Sunday, 7 April 2019 08:20 (seven years ago)

meaulnes comment reminds me of all the frustrated cliches loud tourists spout in the abstract expressionism sections in any given museum, among the paintings by Newman, Rothko, Pollock etc.

Evan, Sunday, 7 April 2019 11:51 (seven years ago)

Obvious comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fCdTvwMuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l236v7FfNBs

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2019 12:25 (seven years ago)

two months pass...

fianlly getting around to some of the later cds in the series (well, sides E and F. mp3 player only had space for the first couple) and they seem like they are edited badly - the tracks all finish suddenly, like they are truncated. wonder if it's the (unfamiliar) player?

koogs, Friday, 21 June 2019 14:04 (six years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3543
ctrl+f for Caretaker, since there's sadly no index

the live show was truly a caretaker affair, very weird, troll-like, and a challenge to the stage performance format

I caught all the antics but, when the true-to-album music was accompanied by more serene visuals, caught a short nap in the middle due to jet lag

he's still got it

mh, Monday, 21 October 2019 18:24 (six years ago)

That sounds like classic Caretaker :) Did he croon his way through 'I write the songs'?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 08:05 (six years ago)

no crooning this time, although there was an entire segment where he sat in a comfy chair next to another dude drinking whiskey

once the pig mask/boxing match/battle of ambient intro was over, there was a very noisy part where the animation was a walk-through of a mansion where album art for his different releases were on the walls. my impression, which my friend thought seemed correct, was that as we were walking closer to the art, tracks would increase in volume. so it was a bunch of material all playing at the same time, until it kind of evened out (and I passed out from travel lag)

mh, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:29 (six years ago)

when I saw him in 2010 (wow, time flies) he sang The Way We Were

mh, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:41 (six years ago)

I stand corrected, he crooned along to a distorted Mick Hucknall music video

mh, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:42 (six years ago)

seven months pass...
two years pass...

I can only listen to bits of Everywhere at the End of Time, it's so emotionally overwhelming that I either have to tune out or force myself to listen. I can't imagine what it must've been like making this and having to listen to each section dozens of times. anyway, probably the single most profound album that I never want to hear again

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 18:29 (four years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bm06ml

James Acaster's Perfect Sounds
The Caretaker's Everywhere At The End of Time is a 6-hour project exploring the descent into dementia. It had a profound effect on James, but what effect will it have on Jen Ives?

koogs, Friday, 21 October 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

I flew ten hours to a festival, ate a small amount of food and had one beer before falling asleep at a Caretaker show (not my first!) right after he did a stage bit in a mask in 2019 ama

the video bits of wandering through The Shining-esque halls were good for sleep

mh, Saturday, 22 October 2022 01:58 (three years ago)

one year passes...

I can only listen to bits of Everywhere at the End of Time, it's so emotionally overwhelming that I either have to tune out or force myself to listen.

I bought this on Bandcamp some time ago (after buying and liking Patience (After Sebald), but I haven't listened to the whole thing until today. I've spent a good part of the day listening straight through. It's . . . quite something. I think it's put me in an alternate state of consciousness.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:58 (two years ago)

He just posted a big update on FB announcing he's forced to put his stuff on streaming services due to so many people stealing his music and trying to monetize it themselves.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:45 (two years ago)

IIRC, I originally found out about his work as the Caretaker because I liked his work as the Stranger. No recollection where I found out about that work. Watching Dead Empires in Decay was in pretty regular rotation for me for a while.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:48 (two years ago)

Was not familiar with him, but my friend had an extra ticket to his show at Lincoln Center (https://www.lincolncenter.org/series/lincoln-center-presents/the-caretaker-moor-mother-673)

Really enjoyed his music, was just surprised that the show also included lip-synching and pretending to play an inflatable guitar to Heroes by David Bowie.

At other times he read an upside down book, drank whiskey, and stood staring and nodding at the audience.

mizzell, Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:11 (two years ago)

what, no pig mask or boxing match?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:26 (two years ago)

a pig mask was on his table of gear, but i don't think he put it on (i didn't have my eyes open the whole time).

mizzell, Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

Whaaaatts oh fuck fuck fuck I was in New York that day

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

two years pass...

Who is the supposed to be?

https://boomkat.com/products/anichy-lyemn

djh, Tuesday, 17 March 2026 16:54 (two months ago)

I'm assuming, if the title is an anagram, that Michael Nyman is involved, but beyond that, no idea. Intriguing, though!

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 18 March 2026 15:34 (two months ago)

I'm surprised that this is still available, with only 300 copies. Sometimes when I see things like this it confirms exactly how niche my tastes are and that makes me sad

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 19 March 2026 22:32 (two months ago)


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