Wiki P says Enter Sandman has been popular as entrance music in some sports.― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, September 16, 2011 11:55 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I had to have this explained to me at Yankee Stadium. After Metallica did "Enter Sandman" some guys in the press room started chanting "FUCK YOU BOSTON (clap clap clapclapclap), FUCK YOU BOSTON (clap clap clapclapclap)." And I was like "What, did Aerosmith just walk in the room or something?"
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
slayer are definitely a 'small doses' band
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to Slayer for me is sorta like looking at a guy with big fucking muscles. Like "wow, you have muscles - fuckin' a!" but not aspiring to get quite that pumped up myself.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
still voting Slayer. otm about them being almost their own genre. Megadeth comes in second.
― SEXPRESSO 2222: the semi-offical BRAZILIAN REVIRGINIZING club (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
and they're gonna walk this, I think.
saw megadeth open for heaven & hell (rip ronnie) a few years ago and i was duly impressed by their set - no bullshit, hardly any banter, just a whiplash set of new and old stuff played perfectly, it was like a thrash ramones set
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Slayer is such a force of nature I rarely feel compelled to listen to them. It's like "listening" to thunder during a storm. I will say that I love festivals with Slayer on the bill, because they bring so much more to the stage. It's like, all day, between all the other bands, people are just sort of milling about changing "slay-er! slay-er!"
For those three albums Metallica was the perfect prog-thrash package. Megadeth was a lot more clever in figuring out a way to pair its metal instincts with pop smarts. Anthrax, I always though that band was a bit of a mess. That is, the only Anthrax tunes that pop to mind are the rap-metal goof and the Joe Jackson cover. Which is awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Chanting, not changing.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
listening to Seasons in the Abyss for the first time in at least a decade goddamn this is a great record
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
there are a lot of little atmospheric touches that are just perfect like that solitary sustained feedback note at the end of Dead Skin Mask. man.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Slayer understood atmosphere better than people remember - their impact on the extreme side of things is just gigantic, their ear for vibe
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
ya when i was like 15 i used to listen to "raining blood" over and over and the rain was my favorite part
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
oh hoos
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think the fact that Slayer is the only band in the Big 4 listed in the Spin Alternative Record Guide says a little something about their appeal on ILX.
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny to look at this list - the reasons Metallica became the breakout/crossover act are readily apparent (Slayer = too extreme/Satanic/evil, Megadeth = too political, Anthrax = not decent enough songwriters/too goofy) I mean I think Metallica's better than Anthrax but that isn't saying a whole lot. Would rank them:
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
SlayerMegadethMetallicaAnthrax
I was at the Big 4 and thought to myself that it really does make sense that the two biggest bands from this are the most extreme and the most unrepentantly wussy
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
might also be the fact that during their peak metallica was completely incapable of writing something that wasn't a hook.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
I wouldn't go that far if we're talking about their commercial peak. which is littered with hookless crap.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
Will you step back from your computer for a second and ask yourself "is that what Jordan was really talking about?"
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
haha rustic killin it
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://sustenance-studio.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a56dddbf970b012875ba1161970c-300wi
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
so one of the reasons metallica is so big is that prior to actually being so big they wrote a lot of decent material. huh.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
would've thought the popularity of the black album had more to do with people actually liking the black album and the music on it, rather than the music on Master of Puppets. call me crazy.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
uh pretty sure that's what OTHER people were saying that you seemed to be disagreeing with. unless you're working on some kind of level of sarcasm i can't even identify.
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
like which of the 5 huge singles from the black album could possibly be described as "hookless"
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
MetallicaFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFor other uses, see Metallica (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Matelica.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, when you said "commercial peak" the first time, I figured you were talking about the ninja star years.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
...and that Jordan had been talking about say Ride through the Black album.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
btw, don't forget to check out my Metallica tribute band, Ride Through The Black.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
all the ones I can't remember (which is all of them except for Enter Sandman)
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Metallica is the only one of the 4 I've ever owned an album by (Master of Puppets) - but I don't really know the other three well enough to vote.
― o. nate, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Ride The Lightening took 3 years to go gold whereas the black album was multi-platinum within months, so that's a really uselessly vague definition of "commercial peak"
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
"Unforgiven," "Sad But True," "Nothing Else Matters," and "Wherever I May Roam" are not hookless just because you can't remember them fyi
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
hooks by definition are memorable! all I remember about those songs are that I thought they were awful when I heard them.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
I don't remember any of those songs but that's because I didn't particularly want to listen to Metallica and actively avoided them
― sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
let's say '84 - '88 + maybe half the black album
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
(xp) If any of them have a motif even vaguely in the league of the guitar riff of "Enter Sandman", calling them "hookless" is really, really silly
Ride The Lightening
milan kundera/metallica mashup
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 16, 2011 2:30 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark
let's say "creative peak" because you obviously don't know what "commercial peak" means
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
i guess shakey was the one that said commercial peak but assuming that's still what we're talking about
If you look at commercial peak through past performance though, which would be better to judge popularity over time, you have 3x, 5x, 6x, 8x, 15x platinum for Kill 'em All through the black album. But I'll bet that a lot of those purchases were made after the black album came out.
Then you have 5x, 3x, 2x, 2x platinum for Load through Death Magnetic. I think a factor in Load's performance here had a lot to do with it's riding on the coattails of the black album. Plus ninja stars and hockey jerseys.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
when i said "peak" i was thinking "peak of their talents", not sales
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
ok
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
Plus ninja stars and hockey jerseys.
load was metallica's teenage mutant ninja turtles 3
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
Is everybody cool now on what Jordan and Shakey were talking about, because we can probably spin this simple misunderstanding out into 200 posts by close-of-business if there's any doubt.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
by far the majority of those sales are post-Black Album -- before '91 And Justice was double platinum and most of the other albums were one time platinum. probably 95% of the units they've shifted have been since then.
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta take the boring position of voting Metallica. For my buying dollar, none of the other bands wrote anything as exciting as Whiplash or Battery.
― Darin, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
The numbers are weird because I would assume based on radio-play and just what people say, that Master of Puppets is more popular than Justice.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link