PARIS HILTON

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"Are you poor? Poor people are responsible for all the wars in the world."

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 7 September 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is truly bizarre even by ilm standards (i clicked to see what people though of the banksy thing), but that penman piece that jed linked to was worth the slog through.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 8 September 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

Hilton vomits while trying to sing her own song

Everyone's a critic nowadays.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder, if lex is still listening to this?

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha you think the lex listens!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

at least this pathetic fag can quote the right html

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

of course i am! in the home straight for album-of-the-year honours, three albums have distanced themselves from the pack by some way, one of which is paris.

i was going to bump this thread to talk about the second single 'nothing in this world' and its wonderfully cheesy video, but feared you would all be too nasty about her :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Enrique - I'm still listening to this!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

i can't tell what's more sad: that the lex isn't dead from suicide now, or after the holidays.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

i would respond to that but i'm afraid i've never noticed you before. there seem to be a lot of american posters who are into trying to look hard on the internet, and they all seem fairly interchangeable & pathetic to me.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

Aint naan a corny ironic limey bloggin' nigga know bout dat Tinkerbell

― Dimehitter Dwayne Hosey (dwaynehosey), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still listening to this. Still in my top 3 albums of the year.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still not convinced, either by the original or by the DM retool.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes threads align themselves in insightful ways:

PARIS HILTON - PARIS
is this a real person or a joke?

― mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

my favourite on the album is def 'not leaving without you' now - it is so heart-burstingly optimistic and excited. "i wanna know what you dream about! i wanna know what you're thinkin' now!" total headrush.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/gallery/he/hepbuiq6514833581114690.jpg

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA!

Right above the blurb about Paris' colourful 'live' performance is one entitled Yoga Helped Aniston Recover From Pitt Split

I read it as Yoda Helped Aniston Recover From Pitt Split

"Get over him you will, young Jeni"

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

That bridge of the song you quote Lex, ie, the "rap", is my favorite part, the rest I'm not so wild about. I think 'Nothing in this World' is definitely my fave.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the rap is something of a pinnacle - i love the dizzying whirl of the "we can dance! we can dance!" chorus too though.

'screwed' should have been a single! (i suspect that there may be no more singles, sadly.)

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

hstencil was on some weird shit this morning (just before his flight to England lol)

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I know this is beside the point, but even if I could bring myself to like any of this album, I find it hard to believe anyone would part with $$$ to support anything Miss "I deserve a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame" does.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

But hey, that's just me.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I would be staggered if many people on this thread had paid for the album.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Good point Tom.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

we've been through this before, i still can't understand what's so objectionable about paris hilton that people actually admit that even if she'd made a great album their own prejudice would nevertheless override this. as ian penman says (his post is linked somewhere upthread), it's not her, it's you.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

i did not pay for the album but I WOULD HAVE

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

We don't buy her - it's as simple as that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see what's so objectionable about people's own prejudices overriding them recognising a great album, though, Lex. It's their loss (or not, if being into PH's music is going to cause them mental anguish).

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a great album.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see what's so objectionable about people's own prejudices overriding them recognising a great album, though, Lex.

they should recognise that it's their own prejudices though! ie it is THEIR problem and very little to do with paris herself.

whether i buy someone is immaterial to whether i get enjoyment out of their music marcello.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

it's not prejudice, it's just contempt.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a great album.

but the lex says it is...

OMG WHO TO TRUST?

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno Lex, blindingly obvious point coming up but...I don't hear you acknowledging your preferences as prejudices terribly often.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

did i already mention Paris album outscores both Fergie and Janet Jackson albums on metacritic? not that it means a great deal but still.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Me. I said the same thing about Transvision Vamp nineteen years ago and I was proved right.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

better than fergie, you say?

*ears prick up*

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, it doesn't mean a great deal.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Fergie singles, they're entertainingly brash.

I think the most interesting stuff I've read on Paris has been David Moore's posts on his blog, talking about the assumptions pro AND anti PH critics have been making about how the music must have been made and written.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

You're absolutely right Lex. It is me.

I have a problem with people who buy their fame.

I have a problem with people with no (or very questionable) talent, but who make claims that they "deserve" fame or respect for what they do. She hasn't earned anything.

If she wasn't such a nasty, spoiled little twit (the vowel of choice for that word is actually an 'a') I wouldn't really have any opinion of her. Unfortunately her media-whoring mouth has made that impossible. Sorry if she rubs me the wrong way dude.

Lex, it is highly clear to the majority of the population that if Paris does have some good sounds on it that Hilton had virtually nothing to do with it. I mean for cryin' out loud, she couldn't even get through a lip-synching event! You're completely entitled to have your opinion, as am I. You might win the popularity contest on this thread, but you know you have a steep climb against the rest of the population.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

i don't care how the music was made at all, i wouldn't make assumptions about it. or really there isn't time to worry about it, or not if you don't like the music to start with.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's exactly the problem I have, Tom. I think I just don't like "brash" in pop.

Shorty largely OTM there though the artist "virtually having nothing to do with it" doesn't as a rule bother me that much. With Paris, though, I'm happy to make an exception.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

good enough for me Marcello.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, it doesn't mean a great deal.

what it does suggest is that the whole 'people not taking her seriously as pop star' thing hasn't been so damaging and it's just that the album is deemed average on it's own terms.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

among critics at least

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I would imagine Hilton has worked very hard to get where she is. I think she is responsible for her own fame, and has therefore 'earned' it (whatever that means).

― braveclub (braveclub), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think anyone gives a fuck, tbh. it's not boom time for pop music, and her singles were merely 'ech' rather than being abject shit.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

And the Queen grew up in a back-to-back terrace in Bolton, right?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Queen was born famous. It's different.

― braveclub (braveclub), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

And Giles and Victoria Coren got where they are today purely through their own efforts.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Just as I know the sun will come up tomorrow, I know that Hilton would not have released an album at this juncture in her life if her pockets didn't reach down to hell.

― shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

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