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that was actually a fabricated quote on my part from myself

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

"verging"

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

any similarities between crack rappers and actual people, living or dead, are coincidental

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I shall be keeping all your names for the roman a clef about ILX I am writing with Edmund Morris, who shall interact with all of us when we were six.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Though perhaps 'interact' is too neutral a term.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

seriously trife if anything get on him for biting aidin vaziri's style, failing to kiss musicians' asses is hardly a crime even if *gasp* they're rappers. not everyone can be byron allen dude.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

"Calliope niggas made the St. Thomas look like church..."

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Wondering when this would get back around to Nik Cohn.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:04 (twenty years ago)

noblesse oblige is better than nothing i guess

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:04 (twenty years ago)

failing to kiss musician's asses /= dehumanizing solipsistic bullshit, half of which is made up

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

he didnt even bother to learn the name of which rapper from franchize he was talking to

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Every time ILX invokes the postmodernism excuse for Nick Sylvester, a masked guman kicks Jill Carroll in the face.

― Never Work (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah jess nobless oblige, im using my immense personal wealth to give handouts to rappers & label owners w/ 100k albums sold & 2 hummers in the garage

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

& if you think i 'kiss ass' w/ every interview subject you dont know shit - astoundly you tend to get better stories from treating mmusicians like people instead of being a dick, ignoring what they say & then making shit up

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

whatever byron

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

you're right though - boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces = the best journalism you'll ever read, esp with musicians who god knows definitely deserve respect and have interesting things to say.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

is the article still online anywhere, the links above seem busted

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

ethan there's a gulf of difference between making shit up and being needlessly deferential as i am sure you know.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

what about being needlessly dickish and getting everything wrong?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pERKO8MDWugJ:www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0609,sylvester,72342,15.html+sylvester+voice+strauss&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Agree that pulling it down was an error in judgment. It's not the crime, it's the coverup, etc...

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

where the fuck did i praise 'boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces'?

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

"captain save-a-hack" haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realize Blount and Jess had so much respect for Riff Raff interviews.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

haha i won't start naming who i think nick is a better writer than when he tries

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

i highly doubt any egos will be bruised

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

"when he tries"

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

failing to kiss musicians' asses is hardly a crime

we're drafting legislation though

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

i respected his interviews more than the 'plz plz get me out of the rockcrit ghetto' lifestyle zeitgeist 'i saw a hipster in a gym' sub-gladwell crap. they made better reading than the groupie/publicist sycophancy trife is upholding as a model. suzy slobjobs writ large as hardly something to aspire to.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

its one thing to 'break the rules' to be disrespectful to kanye or paul mccartney or some other asshole the press takes seriously, but we're talking about a new york hipster ivy league asshole shitting on a member of dem franchize boyz, dehumanized to the point of not even naming him. yeah bout time somebody took franchize down a notch!! thank god someone was brave enough to put the 'celebrity fluff pieces' on dem franchize boyz to an end!! hey maybe dude actually had something to say, or maybe another rapper might have something interesting to say, but we'll never know cuz nick gives every interview subject the same disrespect, infantilization & self-serving horseshit

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i've ever read a rekkerd review by the dude. i only know him from the fake voice blog. i will have to investigate.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

blount where am i upholding 'groupie synchophancy'?? ive personally told interview subjects i think they should do more than glorified drug raps, more than sylvester's ever asked

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

whatever suzy

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

perpePUA

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

to be fair boring groupie puffpieces probably are a good career move if you want to stay just a music 'writer' and you're more concerned with making yr subjects happy than yr readers. you can make a living at it definitely.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

would you rather see dick cheney have an exclusive sitdown interview w/ seymour hersh or ted rall? is the worth of journalism measured in who can say 'fuck off' the loudest??

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

next, people are gonna be telling me that catucci doesn't actually watch all that porn! (i kid, nick, if yoo r a lurker, i know yoo watch tonz of porn and i love you)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

ted maul?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

would you rather see dick cheney have a sitdown with seymour hersh or fred barnes? is the worth of journalism measured in who can slurpslurp the loudest?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

i cant believe im being accused of being a careerist compared to NICK SYLVESTER! do inane questions & smarmy self-obsession count as hard-hitting journalism now?? believe it or not sometimes ppl actually say interesting things when you treat them respectfully instead of mocking them outright

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

and, as many other ppl have noted, making up quotes

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm with ethan, I've never understood the mindset that sez "the only good interviewer is a TOUGH interviewer" (at least where music writing's concerned) - though mark s has interesting things to say on this subject w/r/t john lydon & possibly others

anyhow ethan isn't advocating sycophancy & doesn't practice it, he rather seems to take a highly controversial "make your interview subjects comfortable" stance & that hardly amounts to blowing yr subjects

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

really the only groupie/publicists i see in this thread are the sylvester fan club pretending its just all a big misunderstanding/genius move on the part of the new messiah

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

blount claims everyone is a careerist for chrissakes. i guess miccio was a careerist in the end but it turned out to be propane and propane accessories.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

and most of my interviews in the past year & a half are for local mags like crunk, get'em, etc w/ no online content or distribution outside the south, i recognize my early pieces come off kinda charlie & the choc factory-ish but i think ive gotten alot better w/ this shit - oddly enough for a cynical opportunist i havent been posting them online or pitching them to village voice tho!

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:50 (twenty years ago)

ethan, where can i read your stuff?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

you should do a blog for get'em

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

you can interview fall out boy and hawthorne heights and make up quotes

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

lol @ reverse racism

im going to lunch now

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

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― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

i have a Black Crunky chocolate bar from Japan.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:55 (twenty years ago)

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