You need some EPMD and some SOD. And some NWA and some DRI.
Really though, metal was where it was at in the 80's: Metallica, Slayer, Nuclear Assault, Anthrax, SOD, Sacred Reich, Suicidal Tendencies, Excel, Crumbsuckers, DRI, Cryptic Slaughter, Final Conflict, Napalm Death, Carcass.. I could really go on forever.
― Sir Echo (Sir Echo), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link
already love the Wedding Present, though
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Need a second opinion...? Tom Ewing's Top 100 LPs of the 90s
Tried to follow this link at the bottom of Ned's 136 Albums page (link) and it's dead. Is the "Top 100 LPs" thing a typo? I've internalized Tom's top 100 singles list (link) but I didn't know Tom also made a Top 100 LPs list... or did he?
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
He did but it was just a straightforward list and I don't think it's available anywhere now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://web.archive.org/web/20010303234320/http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/bestlps.html
Your welcome,markers
― markers, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
(P.S. http://web.archive.org rules.)
― markers, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Ahh there we go, I just found it myself the same way. Still a lot of stuff I like on this list!
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Ned, would you still rep. for those Goo Goo Dolls albums? And, just out of curiosity, how far into the depths of hell did you follow that band... er, what was the most recent album of theirs that you heard? Dizzy Up the Girl? Anything afterward...?
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Dizzy Up was the last, which I only heard the once. I'll stick with that earlier stretch, though as with a lot of the albums on the list I really haven't listened to any of them in years. There are either newer albums or older ones I hadn't discovered yet to listen to.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
ned you put a goo goo dolls album on yr list. you goofus.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Two, not one, FWIW.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i currently own 52 of these albums. that's kind of surprising!
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha it is! Offhand I'm guessing one of them is Trumans Water.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
actually, no. (i should note that some of them are all-time for me, and some haven't been played since this thread was started, probably. but i know they're there, lurking, somewhere, in the house.)
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i still love tom's list. i'd love to hear him take on some of these albums again with ten years hindsight. (and ten years of "popular" et al behind him.)
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
totally didn't predict the mercury rev worship
― da croupier, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
There are bands I regret never seeing who I would have had no practical chance to ever see, and the David Baker-era Rev is one of them. I don't think the band ever even played California until 1998.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
huh, I figured there'd be a larger overlap than 31 albums (and that's actually counting a couple I used to own but were stolen that I haven't replaced yet)
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Monday, 4 October 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I suspect we bleed over more when it comes to eighties albums. (And the past decade, probably!)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
haha true
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Monday, 4 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I dare not count the albums I own from this list... I'm guessing somewhere in the 60-80 range but I may be underestimating a bit.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
OWN: 60%, or 81 out of 136 -- and that's including 25 of the top 26, ffs.
USED TO OWN: 8%, or 11 out of 136 -- mostly a lot of Britpop-related (Suede, Oasis, Placebo, Super Furries) and industrial (Manson, Ministry) albums, plus a few others that never clicked (Sundays, Prodigy, Goo Goo Dolls, Veldt).
DO NOT OWN: 32%, or 44 out of 136 -- admittedly there's a few albums in this list that I've meant to buy but haven't gotten around to yet, mostly by artists I already like (Ween, Disco Inferno, His Name Is Alive, Pale Saints, Pelt), plus about 38-39 albums I just haven't gotten around to yet.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
(I can't believe I just spent ~15 min. figuring that out.)
Can anyone beat 81/136, besides Ned of course?
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Does Ned even own 81 of these anymore?
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Not sure, really.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 October 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
So upon deeper inspection, Tom's list is really great also (even though I understand he's disowned it) and has served as a reminder to pick up several albums I've not gotten around to yet -- Ghost's debut, Beta Band's debut, +/-, Chill Out, Ende Neu, Rock 'n' Roll Station. A look at my stats:
OWN: 41 -- lots of great stuff here. I'm particularly surprised that Tom's included Fushitsusha/Keiji Haino, Dead C, Faust, etc. but maybe I've put his tastes into a box a bit much... a welcome surprise, in any case.
USED TO OWN: 7 -- Mag Fields, Palace, Sundays, Frank Black solo.
DO NOT OWN: 52 -- including those above that I've meant to check out. Admittedly there's a lot more on Tom's list than Ned's that I haven't familiarized myself with... something to change piece-by-piece in the coming years.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
re: Mercury Rev -- their 90s output is pretty astonishing. the 00s have dulled that feeling quite a bit, but if, say, deserters songs was their last album, it'd be an unimpeachable run of classic reocrds imo.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 October 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Agreed.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
(i even like quite a bit of all is dream, so it's really just the last two that have been bummers)
― tylerw, Monday, 4 October 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
There is some funny stuff upthread: Ned Raggett vs. deej FITE, cee-oh-tee-tee vs. strongo hulkington FITE, etc.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ott, i was thinking this the other day: do you own any music made by black people?― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:05 PM (6 years ago)What caused you to think that, Jess? And do you think there's an inherent value to a particular music simply because it was made by black people?― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:07 PM (6 years ago)one of your former pitchfork staffers linked me to a website where you detailed your record collection. quite detailed. and i just didn't remember seeing any. odd, is all.― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:10 PM (6 years ago)Well that would be my bitter, paranoiac underling Brent DiCresenczo, or however you spell his last name. He spends an inordinate amount of time worrying that I'm smarter than him.What you saw was a catalog of the CDs I bought in (and brought to) college, which I had in an Excel spreadsheet; my roommate from last year converted it to a graphical web DB testing out his MySQL and PHP skills. So yeah, it was mostly white indie and electronic bands from the laet-80s/90s. Off the top of my head though...Tricky, Jeru, Busta, N.W.A., Public Enemy, and Eddie Floyd were in there. James Brown and Bob Marley I had on tapes, for my walkman-- I used to bring it to the studio to drum along to. Feel better now?― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:20 PM (6 years ago)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:05 PM (6 years ago)
What caused you to think that, Jess? And do you think there's an inherent value to a particular music simply because it was made by black people?
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:07 PM (6 years ago)
one of your former pitchfork staffers linked me to a website where you detailed your record collection. quite detailed. and i just didn't remember seeing any. odd, is all.
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:10 PM (6 years ago)
Well that would be my bitter, paranoiac underling Brent DiCresenczo, or however you spell his last name. He spends an inordinate amount of time worrying that I'm smarter than him.
What you saw was a catalog of the CDs I bought in (and brought to) college, which I had in an Excel spreadsheet; my roommate from last year converted it to a graphical web DB testing out his MySQL and PHP skills. So yeah, it was mostly white indie and electronic bands from the laet-80s/90s. Off the top of my head though...Tricky, Jeru, Busta, N.W.A., Public Enemy, and Eddie Floyd were in there. James Brown and Bob Marley I had on tapes, for my walkman-- I used to bring it to the studio to drum along to. Feel better now?
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:20 PM (6 years ago)
markers if you can dig this one up on Web Archive or anything, I will be amazed. Challenge is ON.
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
It seems that the Pumpkins love is the thing for which Ned gets the most general ire. This makes me sad.― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:38 PM (6 years ago)Funny, cause I even like the Pumpkins.― ddrake, Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:39 PM (6 years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:38 PM (6 years ago)
Funny, cause I even like the Pumpkins.
― ddrake, Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:39 PM (6 years ago)
Wonder if deej would still rep for the Pumpkins seven years later??
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow I was a real dick in this thread. I mean, even more than usual.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I found this along with the original Pitchfork 90s list a long time ago. From the individual top 90s lists of Pitchfork staff.
CHRIS OTT1. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless2. Jesus Lizard - Goat3. Radiohead - OK Computer4. Portishead - Dummy5. Slint - Spiderland6. Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin7. Bjork - Post8. DJ Shadow - Entroducing...9. Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted10. Breeders - Pod11. Yo La Tengo - Painful12. Lemonheads - It's a Shame About Ray13. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville14. Warlock Pinchers - Circusized Peanuts15. Ride - Nowhere16. Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On17. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do18. Primal Scream - Screamedelica19. Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas20. Bjork - Homogenic21. Dinosaur Jr. - Green Mind22. Nirvana - Nevermind23. Mercury Rev - Yerself is Steam24. Happy Mondays - Pills 'N' Thrills and Bellyaches25. Sonic Youth - Goo26. Tricky - Maxinquaye27. Spiritualized - Pure Phase28. Morrissey - Vauxhall and I29. Jesus Lizard - Liar30. Luna - Bewitched31. Swell - 4132. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet33. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works II34. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts35. His Name is Alive - Stars on E.S.P.36. Oval - 94diskont37. Bedhead - Whatfunlifewas38. Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes39. Built to Spill - There's Nothing Wrong With Love40. Depeche Mode - Violator41. Sinead O'Connor - I Do Not Want What I Havent Got42. Burger/Ink - Las Vegas43. Sunny Day Real Estate - LP244. Ride - Going Blank Again45. Seam - The Problem With Me46. Sonora Pine - II47. PJ Harvey - Rid of Me48. Codeine - Frigid Stars49. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream50. Swirlies - They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days...51. Replacements - All Shook Down52. Weezer - Blue53. Karate - Karate54. Pixies - Bossanova55. Talk Talk - Laughing Stock56. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain57. Magnetic Fields - Holiday58. Seefeel - Quique59. Orbital - Orbital 260. Luna - Penthouse61. Archers of Loaf - Vee Vee62. Radiohead - The Bends63. Helmet - Meantime64. Rage Against the Machine - The Battle of Los Angeles65. Yo La Tengo - Electr-o-pura66. Massive Attack - Mezzanine67. Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I68. Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory?69. Superchunk - On the Mouth70. Strung Out - Suburban Teenage Wasteland Blues71. Swirlies - Blondertongueaudiobaton72. Low - The Curtain Hits the Cast73. Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona74. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool75. Melvins - Houdini76. Sebadoh - III77. Curve - Doppelganger78. Peter Gabriel - Us79. U2 - Achtung Baby80. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime81. Dinosaur Jr. - Where You Been?82. Milf - Ha Ha Bus!83. F.Y.P. - Finish Your Popcorn84. Belle and Sebastian - Tigermilk85. Quicksand - Slip86. Mogwai - Come on Die Young87. Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes88. Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming89. Faint - Blank Wave Arcade90. Suzanne Vega - 99.9F91. Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy92. Liz Phair - Whip Smart93. The The - Dusk94. Bettie Seveert - Palomine95. 18th Dye - Tribute to a Bus96. Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R.97. Galaxie 500 - This is Our Music98. Moby - Ambient99. Prince - (Love Symbol Album)100.Beat Happening - You Turn Me On
― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
A lot of my favorites on there.
Like Milf, The Swirlies, Bedhead, Swell, GBV, 18th Dye...
― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
98. Moby - Ambient
!!!
― oh, winklevoss (crüt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Ambient is a really weird album. very dark and muted and not very ambient at all.
the first track uses the same strings he later used in "Move"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43AEG4DyvY
― oh, winklevoss (crüt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
56. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
HEEEEEYYYYY WAIT A SECOND...
I can't get past "to those gold sounds" because I always pressed >> after that.
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As far as I'm concerned this band ends at "Stop Breathing".
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― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
should we assume there are only 55 albums or less that Ott actually likes?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, that would explain 78. Peter Gabriel - Us
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
88. Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming
I predict this'll make you double take.
― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
man dude hated pitchfork even then
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
putting indie chestnuts he actually hated alongside obvious yuppie horseshit, that's some scathing satire
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link
re you giving YOURSELF a fair chance to listen to hip hop?
― buzza, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link
90s lists made in actual proximity to the 90s are always so much more interesting than lists people make today.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, Ned - God Machine! Haven't heard them in years years years.
I've got other writers lists from the same source, if anyone is interested.
― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Where can you find the individual writers' lists from the pitchfork 90s thing? And are there individual lists for PFM's singles countdown?
― Cunga, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link