If Tracks Are Good, Let's Get 2 Pollin - PRINCE TRACKS POLL RESULTS

it just bums me out how even the songs that would otherwise be fine (Willing and Able, for ex.) or at least moderately enjoyable on Diamonds and Pearls songs are literally ruined by the rapping. it's the audio equivalent of a chef preparing a dessert for you and then, upon hearing that you are fond of chocolate pudding, serves you a lump of shit. and then complains when you say you don't like it.

it's the audio equivalent of a chef preparing a dessert for you and then, upon hearing that you are fond of chocolate pudding, serves you a lump of shit.

That is exactly what we were all thinking.

thing is even if Prince had grabbed like the greatest rappers of the era it still probably would've turned out awkward at best, it was just a lose/lose proposition for him to engage with hip hop imo

yeah, he shouldn't have bothered

When was the last time Prince directly collaborated with an already pedigreed artist whose pedigree wasn't directly tied to Prince himself? I think his egomaniacal need to find new talent and sleep with them if they're female would keep him from working with known non-facepalm rappers.

yeah i mean he's worked with a few heroes and predecessors, but aside from Mavis Staples it was usually just little one-off things, and very little stuff with anyone you'd consider a contemporary or peer (or near-misses like walking out on the MJ collaboration). i think that's as much about him being a control freak as an egomaniac, though, he doesn't want to show up and be part of a duet or ensemble for a song he didn't even write.

how do Larry Graham and Doug E. Fresh fit in here

or Maceo Parker

larry graham and maceo parker are definitely heroes that he came up listening to

yeah - that was more in response to dan than some dude

some dude's OTM tho about Prince restricting himself to situations where he's firmly in control. and limiting himself to one-offs. he's not a collaborative guy, really.

yeah Wendy & Lisa might be the only really really extensive truly collaborative relationship he's had

lol I didn't even know about Doug E. Fresh, some Prince fan I am

Maceo and Larry are givens but those collaborations happened several years after Diamonds and Pearls (and actually, same with Doug E Fresh now that I look it up), plus with Larry at least I don't know how much of that was tied to the conversion to being a Jehovah's Witness.

I think with Larry the music collab came first, then the conversion...?

yeah Wendy & Lisa might be the only really really extensive truly collaborative relationship he's had

this also very OTM from everything I've read

Maceo and Larry are givens but those collaborations happened several years after Diamonds and Pearls

if we're talking pre-D&P yeah he wasn't interested in collaborating with anybody he didn't have control over

he did kick MJ's ass at ping pong tho

lovesexy is awesome; wtf @ you guys

welcome to ILX, Brad!

i think i said in the voting thread that i started listening to come because of all the prince action on ilx, and that record rules too, glad everyone can agree

shakey's whole revive post outlined how little the world at large thinks of Lovesexy, don't act like it's just people here

the world at large aren't music fanatics who pour over the minutiae of an artist's catalog, so yeah it's true that the most people don't think very much about Lovesexy

everyone who does should love it, tho, because it owns

i love it because i found a jukebox at a shitty college bar that would do the whole album for one play. i've always meant to pop back in and just ruin everyone's selections for an hour.

you may recall that this thread is the result of music fanatics pouring over the minutiae of Prince's catalog and deciding that the single was the only thing from Lovesexy worth holding up as one of his 50 best songs.

lol 'pore over' i repeated your typo, now i really don't want to get any mental images of pouring anything over Prince's anything

re: collaborations, I totally forgot about this:

In 1989, Prince appeared on Madonna's studio album Like a Prayer, co-writing and singing the duet "Love Song" and playing electric guitar (uncredited) on the songs "Like a Prayer", "Keep It Together", and "Act of Contrition".

WAHT prince plays guitar on "like a prayer"!?!?

I didn't even notice that typo

I'd be more embarrassed had I not read that Zelda review, I don't think anything I am capable of writing could be as embarrassing as that

also I didn't know that re: Like A Prayer, wau

well it is wikipedia so I dunno, grain of salt

No, it sounds right. That guitar tone sounds an awful lot like his.

there are references to Madonna confirming this in an interview floating around the internet, but I can't find the original source

read a lot of the prince books and none of them mention that...?

i found a convo on prince.org that makes it sound like Prince played on a remix of "Like A Prayer" but not the album version and also has an unreleased cover of it

If you want to hear Prince on the song Like A Prayer... you need to get ahold of the "Remixed Prayers" CD. The 12" Club Version has him on Keyboards & Guitar, and the 12" Extended Mix has him on Guitar, including the solo that they edited out of the LP Version. Act of Contrition is mainly made up of backwards parts of the Club Version. There is also a promo mix out there called "Dub Beats" which has instrumentation from Prince, and a sample from Bob George.

there are references to Madonna confirming this in an interview floating around the internet, but I can't find the original source

Yes, Madonna herself mentions it in Paul Zollo's book of songwriter interviews.

Should have placed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlVSMtB-Hg

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGy0QRXvjgU

Anyone curious what 61-100 are? Was there a link that I missed? I'm wondering if there's anything since 1995 besides "Guitar," "Black Sweat" and "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" that made the top 100.

ctrl+f "scandalous"

:(

Dorothy Parker is a funny song... it doesn't have anything to do with the actual Dorothy Parker, did he just like the sound of her name or something?

― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:39 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess so - it's full of peculiar, slightly puzzling details like that - lyric's such a good fit for the wobbly, dreamy sound.

― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:50 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was lying in bed this morning and it finally struck me that it's her nickname.

we could do this again, probably get twice as many ballots

Nickname? Dot? Dottie?

my hypothesis is that the waitress has been nicknamed dorothy parker - most likely by Prince, but perhaps by another patron of the place on the promenade - because she makes sharp/witty remarks to the customers, ie she's a real dorothy parker.

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Yeah, it may be well worth running this poll again at some point in the future!

This one needs a redux imo.

seconded

Firsted.

When You Were Mine is nowadays my favorite Prince song. So glad it won this.

Controversy used to be my favorite Prince album and Dirty Mind a close second. I'm not sure anymore.

I think it would likely still win even if we redid the poll

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker is currently my favorite Prince song. I can't remember if I voted in this poll but I absolutely love the results of this poll.