Argentine rock, from the past and present?

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I can't stand Charly Garcia's music (although a fascinating figure), or Spinetta stuff, or most of the "rock nacional." Most Argentine rock has a horrible blues rock/Rolling Stones influences that I can't stand. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs were alright. Babasonicos are my favorite of the more popular groups (and Ned's right that their stuff from the early part of this decade is the best although their two most recent albums are both good). Jaime Sin Tierra were Argentina's Radiohead and their albums aren't bad. Doris are pretty good (modern psych stuff influenced by Sonic Youth) and are fun live if you can catch them. Los Brujos were pretty good alt rock from the late 1990s. El mato a un policia motorizado is Jesus and Mary influenced rock from La Plata (good live if you can catch them). I like Pequena Orquesta Reincidentes and Me Daras Mil Hijos a lot. They are a mix of traditional folklore (kind of gypsy like) with more modern inflections - I guess you could compare them with groups like Devotchka. I wouldn't call Juana Molina rock but she's worth a listen. I'd get into some cumbia villera stuff.

Jacobo Rock, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, the degree to which some of these people take their Rolling Stones obsession is alarming to me. I mean, I like the Rolling Stones. They have some great songs. But heavens...

I still haven't heard solo Spinetta, but I really like Pescado Rabioso's "Artaud." Especially "Cantata de punetes amarillos" -- such a good song! It has this "LA! LA! LA! LA!" at the beginning that kills me every time.

I very much enjoy Charly Garcia's song "Demoliendo Hoteles" for its sheer catchy, rockin', head-sticking value. Yendo de la Cama I don't enjoy as much, not because the songs are weak but because its cheesy production bothers me. Maybe I'll get over that with time.

Thanks, all, for the names.

babyalive, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I like the Rolling Stones too but Argentine rock bands seem to have taken all the worst influences from them. I never got why the Ramones were so popular there too either (ANIMAL and all those other rock groups which are basically bad Ramones rip offs). For live stuff or dj, I'd check out
http://whatsupbuenosaires.com/wuba2/ if you haven't stumbled on it before. The Cultural Centers also have great concerts for practically nothing (I remember paying 2 pesos for Entre Rios - the best Argentine electropop act).

Jacobo Rock, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

First solo Spinetta LP is abosolutely gorgeous. Esp "Vamos Al Bosque." Great use of semi-ragged sing-along chorus.

ian, Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

hey sophia, could to see you back!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I like pretty much all Soda Stereo. They gracefully evolved from ska-influenced post punk to new wave to shoegaze to britpop-influenced rock. Ceratti's first two albums are also very good.

daavid, Saturday, 20 September 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Some favorite and very popular songs off top of my mind:

Soda Stereo - Luna Roja
Soda Stereo - En la ciudad de la furia (unplugged version)
Soda Stereo - Un millon de años luz
Soda Stereo - Hombre al agua
Gustavo Cerati - Bocanada
Gustavo Cerati - paseo inmoral
Fabulosos Cadillacs - Los Condenaditos
Fabulosos Cadillacs - Calaveras y Diablitos
Fabulosos Cadillacs - C.J.
Bersuit Vergarabat - Yo tomo

Moka, Saturday, 20 September 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Mmm regarding Babasonicos I found them a tad annoying at points but these two songs are good:

Babasonicos - putita
Babasonicos - el Loco

Miranda! are fun if you understand spanish. Kind of kitschy. I'd recommend Don and Bailarina from them. Most of their output is rather erm letsay not very impressive.

Moka, Saturday, 20 September 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Any mention of Virus on this thread? Didn’t see.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link

Virus seems to have been pretty big. Some of their tunes have been covered at least a dozen times.

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

Their leader Fede Moura produced the first Soda Stereo album, if that means anything to you.

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe I should just post about them on the Soda Stereo thread.

Totally into this one, and find Federico Moura really interesting to look at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZdKXUa4j3g

After Federico died of AIDS-related complications, his two brothers carried on without him but they never really could fill the star power void. Here is a video of our old friends Gustavo Cerati and Charly Garcia pitching in on stage to try to bring up the energy level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdK2GVOv6nM

This guy, Roberto Jacoby, wrote a lot of the lyrics, maybe he was Fede’s boyfriend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Jacoby

Virus started as a guitar-based New Wave act and eventually moved into techno pop. The latter stuff sounds really good today, Federico’s voice ethereally floating over those synth washes.

Still trying to back into the earlier stuff.

Adrián Dargelos of Babasónicos joins Virus onstage to help them with a version of “Pronta Entrega.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v1__DlMWuM

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link

Perhaps you will prefer the version by Miranda! Ale Sergi is apparently a huge fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3tJcIgaV-0

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 20:22 (ten months ago) link

Luca Prodan and Sumo never got a mention here?

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 18:32 (ten months ago) link

Also, the 8 episode Fito Paez miniseries on Netflix, Love After Music is something I might end up watching out of completeness but I have heard bad things about it and what I have looked at seems to be paint by numbers.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 20:25 (ten months ago) link

Still trying to figure out this Pappo guy.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 July 2023 21:55 (ten months ago) link

Did watch several episodes of ROMPAN TODO (BREAK IT ALL) and learned a lot. Now wondering how many outside of Argentina are familiar with “El extraño de pelo largo.”

Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 21:07 (nine months ago) link

There are so many versions of it at this point.

Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 21:07 (nine months ago) link

four weeks pass...

People in Mexico know it from the version by Los Enanitos Verdes who, like Babasónicos, seem to be more popular there than in Argentina.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2023 21:55 (nine months ago) link

But came to say I am enjoying Charly Garcia’s Hello! MTV Unplugged. He had a really good band on that one.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link

I love the version of Los dinosaurios in the Unplugged!

fpsa, Monday, 28 August 2023 22:14 (nine months ago) link

Vilma Palma e Vampiros were a hit in Perú while I lived there.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 August 2023 22:15 (nine months ago) link

babasonicos are a staple of MTV Latina – love Viva Satana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPCtmAbXIww

fpsa, Monday, 28 August 2023 22:17 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, “¡Viva Satana!” is great.

The Soda Stereo MTV Unlugged album, Comfort y música para volar is also good of course (although less unplugged than most, more reimagined) but it was the Brazilian acts who really went to town with that format, as fpsa can tell you.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2023 22:22 (nine months ago) link

Re the OP’s comment about punk bands, the only one I really know is the first one, Los Violadores, who were pretty good.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2023 22:38 (nine months ago) link

Their big hit was “1, 2 Ultraviolento,” which was based on “A Clockwork Orange.” The lyrics are even a mixture of Spanish and Nadsat as represented in the Spanish translation of the book (or film?). The song even starts with the old Ludwig van.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-yk2el2b8k

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2023 22:42 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Heh, guessed that some tourists were Argentine today and talked to them for a few, confirming just how popular Rock nacional really is.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 September 2023 19:52 (eight months ago) link

The whole family knew all about various musical figures, major and minor and furthermore, while they were in NYC they made a pilgrimage to the spot where Charly Garcia posed for the cover of Clics Modernos. They told me the relevant graffiti is no longer present but there is a commemorative plaque to mark the historic wall.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 September 2023 20:57 (eight months ago) link


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