JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

victory

― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011

beyond parody

iirc im talkin about jazz youre the one bringing up dicks & vajajays

vajayjazz

guys go put on some grant green and ~vibe

lol

be sure to use spiritual jimmy hats

You're not even talking about jazz is the problem. You're talking about how you have a bigger jazz dick than any of the voters and implying only you have some private knowledge as to what constitutes Real Jazz. I had never understood why literally everyone on ILX hated you, but it's clear that it's because you claim expertise on everything and everyone and would like to think your opinions have more actual value than they do.

hahaha he hasn't really said anything for a while

victory

― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011

beyond parody

― zvookster, Friday, September 2, 2011 4:40 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how so

You're not even talking about jazz is the problem. You're talking about how you have a bigger jazz dick than any of the voters and implying only you have some private knowledge as to what constitutes Real Jazz. I had never understood why literally everyone on ILX hated you, but it's clear that it's because you claim expertise on everything and everyone and would like to think your opinions have more actual value than they do.

― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, September 2, 2011 4:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is not at all what ive done but u need to get off my (ready?) dick

because you were railing against the poll pointlessly, and because u treated ALS as a terrible record, and backed yourself up by referencing non-existent literature. nobody rode for ALS as better than blue train or giant steps iirc.

because u treated ALS as a terrible record

he didn't say this tho

This is actually kind exciting... I know what one of the top two albums will be, but not the another one. I guess they can't both be Miles albums, all the other canonical one have already placed, right?

i never treated als as a terrible record, i said it was overrated by outsiders & that w/in the canon its treated as one of several great records, rarely considered his finest moment, and there is 'existing literature' its just not linked on the wikipedia page that you were referencing

i was arguin w/ people in the thread who specifically said that no, ALS was the best one & that was a universally agreed upon position. obv this wasnt something all 39 ppl agreed with but the ppl arguing w/ me did

read the thread

Yah I'm at a loss as to what the other album would be!

Also, I don't get why this countdown needed to be Deej Against the World, but whatever. At least the debate got a handful of interesting comments out of people.

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mingus?

oh obv lol

i hope miles wins

Anyway, can we please focus on the albums in the top 10 and not some debate that's been repeated for the last 500 posts?

so no Charlie Parker!

there is 'existing literature' its just not linked on the wikipedia page that you were referencing <--what? not me bruv. this is pathetic.

no, ALS was the best one & that was a universally agreed upon position

nobody said this either btw

mingus?

I'm not that knowledgeable on Mingus, but I wouldn't think anything else by him would place higher than Ah Um?

Deej why are you being a dick to armand who has been restrained and polite with the constant snark against the poll hes put a lot of effort into? I admit i never liked him in the past due to my prejudices against metal ( the polls hes run in the past) but this has been one of the most enlightening and enjoyable polls on ilx. Makes a change from pop indie and other rock.

sorry i didn't vote in this, glad to see Gracham got in via Jackie McLean. also would have given a write-in/throwaway to the 61 Village Vanguard recordings.

Kerr, can we get the results soon? I need to be going to sleep, and I'd still love to see #2 and #1 before that.

Deej why are you being a dick to armand who has been restrained and polite with the constant snark against the poll hes put a lot of effort into? I admit i never liked him in the past due to my prejudices against metal ( the polls hes run in the past) but this has been one of the most enlightening and enjoyable polls on ilx. Makes a change from pop indie and other rock.

― BlindWillyPuller, Friday, September 2, 2011 4:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i didnt think i was fwiw

you said no argument could be made for ALS as his best - that argument has been made, by lots of people (I cited a couple). But no one on this thread specifically argued ALS was his best (including me, as I was careful to note).

xp

fun with semantics part 7,698

I'm not that knowledgeable on Mingus, but I wouldn't think anything else by him would place higher than Ah Um?

there's an album of his we were just talking about upthread that hasn't placed yet...

2 Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And Sinner Lady (1963) 3321 Points, 22 One #1
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xcz8yyxpZ1U/TW7s160nttI/AAAAAAAACHA/T9k3SS6qdk4/s1600/%255BAllCDCovers%255D_charles_mingus_the_black_saint_the_sinner_lady_1995_retail_cd-front.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5K3hgJYRyL5H40e9a1940R

1 Miles Davis - In A Silent Way (1969) 3379 Points, 23 votes, 3 #1's
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EfH7QQM5cK8/TEfWlq8gT0I/AAAAAAAAF88/s1YO4wPU2Zo/s1600/%5BAllCDCovers%5D_miles_davis_in_a_silent_way_1969_retail_cd-front.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0Hs3BomCdwIWRhgT57x22T

or complete sessions http://open.spotify.com/album/0dMjCMzi6WxDi4HGdb1trC

:D

you said no argument could be made for ALS as his best - that argument has been made, by lots of people (I cited a couple). But no one on this thread specifically argued ALS was his best (including me, as I was careful to note).

xp

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, September 2, 2011 5:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what post was this? im just trying to find the context in which i said 'no argument could be made'

Thanks for doing this, Armand. Fabulous list.

yay! my no1!

i was listening to IASW on repeat when i fell asleep on Sept. 10th 2001. Had really strange unpleasant dreams all night where i was just floating in a heavy fog. My roommate woke me up in the morning and I felt really ugly before he told me what happened. Have only listened to the album sparingly in the decade since, despite how it captures the late hours better than any music i've ever heard.

yes thanks so much!

Thanks for doing this poll. Very entertaining and enlightening.

agreed w/ thanks for doing this, v interesting list *strokes non-beard*

yeah, thanks! good times, spotify playlist is a thing of beauty.

Yes! We <3 you, K3rr Bear

Can't say I'm disappointed with #1, it's my favourite Miles album. Though I guess astral hat jazz wins trad jazz in the end, IaSW is more like ambient than "proper" jazz to me, despite the awesome solos.

so I don't follow music crit much, but when I was getting into miles ('96-'97) In a Silent Way was glossed over, I almost never saw it mentioned. If it was, it was as the precursor (along w/Jack Johnson) of Bitches Brew. Has its status been elevated amongst the masses since?

kind of blue for example actually has a case for being the best Miles album, a love supreme isnt even close to being the best trane record

xp

glad that a pretty record won!

I approve of this #1 -- IASW was in my top 5. Thanks for your work, Mr. Ratfucker, good poll action. Thanks also to seandalai for numbercrunching.

Granny, it always had a strong and steady following, and BB and JJ opinions seems to wax and wane. IASW is forever.

maybe in rock critic books but the jazz canon usually puts 'a love supreme' down as one of his lesser albums from the era that got considerably more attention from folks outside of the jazz world

― D-40, Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shakey this was my orig. argument. i never said NO CASE COULD BE MADE that it was his best, i was talking about perception of conflicting canons

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A pleasure running this poll, Lots of great albums and will post the full list shortly so you can see what missed out (that shocked me)

But please, seandalai did all the hard work with the tabulation, stuff I cant do, so please direct all your thanks to him. And a BIG THANKS to all who voted and joined in the discussion. Hope you all discover some really great albums from the poll.