JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

Real Jazz, guys = all of the shit we're naming that you didn't vote for

(he's somehow accessed my ballot & nominations)

D-40 and granny dainger which of those albums that you say arent in the poll ones that you voted for?

i didnt turn in a ballot

deej none of those names ring familiar to me and it doesnt have a wiki page - wanna go into more detail?

http://www.gmkfreelogos.com/logos/R/img/Real_Jazz.gif

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

rabih abou-khalil is a lebanese oud player. allmusic has a good review
http://www.allmusic.com/album/blue-camel-r160732/review

everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums

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didn't vote, that whole process of nominating then voting isn't my thing. but i'm glad others do! and i don't really have beef w/the list, just think these people deserve some love, respect, and/or attention.

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

― gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:35 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think 'dinah jams' is a crazy great record & also includes clifford brown -- ive got you under my skin version is amazing (max roach + brown, maynard furgeson & clark terry in a trumpet battle!!)

going to work, hope there isnt a clusterfuck in my bookmarks tomorrow morning when i'm trying to see the winner.

Clifford Brown is serious. That whole Mosaic box is killer and it's a mind-boggling "what if?" to think about him living past the age of 25.

other artists that didnt make the list that have been on my mind ... woody shaw, jon faddis (of course im naming trumpet players), abdullah ibrahim ... stan kenton was another good one GD mentioned

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5    Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) 3011 Points, 22 votes
http://img9.9sky.com/picture/cpfm/_V2/4/47987/47987_a.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2iPH3iUmpa9ufIpwY76keF

(That was in response to: everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums.)

okay that is too high

yeah clifford brown could still be alive today, which is nuts. he was apparently a clean living kind of guy. no idea what musical route he would've taken though.

Haha Rudipherous you're impossible today. But so am I.

Troll = official ILM cosmic jazz hat mascot

okay that is too high

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm imo

sidebar: my uncle's father-in-law is a Stan Kenton devotee to this day, is super enthusiastic about jazz even in his 80s, still goes out to see live jazz regularly. is always like "oh this record is AWESOME here TAKE IT! i've listened to it 100 times, got it memorized, OH if you like that then you GOTTA hear THIS" *scurries away to go pluck out another gem. his knowledge stops at like 1958 but so cool to talk to him about the music he's passionate about

Shape of Jazz to Come (and most of the other Atlantic recordings) are among my all time favorites, so I'm ok with 5th place

No Julius Hemphill, no Gene Ammons, no Bill Dixon, no Tony Oxley, no Lennie Tristano :(

Pharoah Sanders on the other hand, as much as I love him, is probably too high on this list.

Hey, I'm still holding out for Dixon's Intents & Purposes placing in the top 4!

Dogon A.D. is definitely an oversight.

no Gene Ammons,

was wondering about this myself

this top 10 ordering is pretty bonkers imho

i voted for shape of jazz -- if i'm gona vote for one ornette, it's gonna be that one.

I'm more of a Coon Bid'ness guy, but any Hemphill would have been welcome.

i like gene ammons but sadly lots of things are gonna miss out in a poll. but maybe if some more of you guys complaining voted it would be different

(not having a go at anyone who didn't, you have your reasons)

maybe if you guys who voted listened to REAL JAZZ

winky face obv

can we post our ballots yet?

the jazz contingent on ilm is tiny. half of the jazz d-bags posters didn't vote/nominate so im amazed and well chuffed we got 39 voters (thanks to you all). But we got a great list of 250 awesome records and full results will be posted at the end so you can still check out some great albums that missed the top 250

~can u feel it~

i wonder what it would have taken for this to be a 'bad list'

hah, no william. Do you guys want a separate post yr ballots thread? if so i'll start one when it's time

deej do you think this is really a bad list??

no. the backpatting abt how good it was seemed a bit silly tho

well it has a 250 of great albums. That people will check out if they haven't already I'd consider that good.

4    Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch (1964) 3080 Points, 22 votes
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http://open.spotify.com/album/3PIVqZzL1PnrxFZDzuT1aX

Beautiful album.

Poll #4 = my #4

kind of prefer other dolphy albums to it, though. it's fab, but i reach for the five spot albums more.

Of all the places to complain about the obscurity impulses of ILX you're really going to take this thread up as your cause, deej? You're posting on a message board that was spawned from a Belle & Sebastian listserv.

I mean of all the polls ILX has done in the 8 years I've been lurking this is the first one where I was like "yeah, that's cool."

tylerw, totally. Vol I of Live at the Five Spot is :O