Why is John Fahey So Boring?

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boring pics of this fucking amazing box set
http://thewiremagazine.tumblr.com/post/9665885879/the-wire-magazine-john-fahey

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

massive idiots/obvious trolls who think fahey is boring better bypass this kickass bootleg:

http://youtu.be/0cTdPTrihlI

(untouchable, mysterious, ethereal, massive. hold onto yer butts for this shit.)

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

wow, thank you, global tetrahedon

is that from the university of washington show?

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

This is great. I'm sure there's a lot of Fahey I have yet to hear which I would like. One reason I haven't dug as deeply is that there are certain sides of his art I'm not really into. This is definitely from one of the sides I love (so far).

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

i checked, and yeah, it is from the 1973 UW show. avail in its entirety here:

http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/18138392878/john-fahey-university-of-washington-1973-01

^ hope it's ok to post that link...

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link

you should really ask that blogger for consent before posting such links, I heard he is a real madman. you better watch out buddy.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

lol

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link

feel like the best fahey like the live versions of dance of the inhabitants should be hid away on a mountaintop monastery somewhere which is a couple of day's hike to get to. i was going to link to a video of another version of it but it's been pulled from youtube, hopefully being interred by the monks as i type.

ogmor, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

feel like the best fahey like the live versions of dance of the inhabitants should be hid away on a mountaintop monastery somewhere which is a couple of day's hike to get to.

hahaha this is otm & how the world should work

, Blogger (schlump), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

I have lots of Fahey bootlegs, most came from Delta Slider, I'd poke around there if you like the above... the main problem with the site is that the MP3s are tagged like shit (or not at all), hence why I had to upload it to Youtube to share it. Perhaps the difficulty associated with unzipping and properly tagging MP3s is corollary to a long hike to a monastery?

Also, to the dude above, what sides of Fahey don't you like? I could totally imagine what sides you are talking about, but in the interest of further Faheychat perhaps you could elaborate.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

And does anyone see what I'm saying about how this evokes Branca? Just the cacophonous reverberations piling onto one another, adding up to a bigger whole?

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

As a shoegaze fan I heard a lot of the same melodic progression sensibilities Kevin Shields as an example would share.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

tbh, i don't really get the branca comparison

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that u of w show is close to a religious experience. the sausalito recording from around the same era is a far better recording with a similar setlist, but the u o w thing is uhhhhmazing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

I still like Fahey records but I think he was "an occasionally brilliant guitar composer and arranger, innovator and player" even more rarely than he thought. He relied too much on the same few tricks and effects and fills too much time with adolescent stoned-fascinated noodling.

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

you speak poop

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^^

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

mentioned above from way back
Also in the works is a separate two-CD set called Roots of Fahey, which will showcase the songs and musicians that inspired and influenced John throughout his recording career. Each track comes from the 78rpm record collection of John's lifelong friend, Joe Bussard.
this didn't ever come out did it?

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

don't espeeecially hear the branca, but the low notes are cosmically booming, sounds more like some brass/percussion combination than guitar.

(500) Days of Sodom (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

What's the most far out stuff? His weirdest shit? Hurting's second sentence up there is my prob with Fahey too, but I haven't heard much.

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

his weirdest shit
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/The_Mill_Pond_John_Fahey.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/07/john-faheys-mil.html

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

I can definitely hear the Branca comparison. I didn't realize he was doing that sort of thing pre-Womblife.

Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

This is more like it, cheers!! xpost

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

haha umm enjoy!

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

if someone could just list all the fahey records that aren't americana-ey fingerpickin or the blooze that'd be great thx

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

well I mean a lot of them are raga-y fingerpickin mixed in with americana fingerpickin and the blooze.

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

as far as the studio stuff goes, it sounds like you might be interested in his very late albums: womblife, city of refuge, hitomi, and red cross.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

the mid period where fahey was experimenting with concrete sounds and doing duets with other instrumentalists is my fave -- these records:
-requia
-days have gone by
-vol. 4
-voice of the turtle

prob my faves.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

p.s. not boring

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

fahey went pretty far afield at times, but it seems to me that looking for things he did that weren't informed by "americana-ey fingerpickin or the blooze" is like looking for james brown recordings that didn't have anything to do with R&B.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

that is OTM. you might just be better off listening to some classical guitar stuff, or robbie basho or someone, if you don't want rural american nostalgia trips.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

guys i've discovered this great guitarist - really adult and sober - anyone interested?

ogmor, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

i heard it said once - by a fahey fan, in fact - that julian bream broke a nail on tour, and spent the afternoon getting a synthetic replacement superglued on so that he could play a concert that evening. a few tunes into the performance, the glued nail pings off into the audience and catches a woman in the eye. apparently the woman died & j bream was arrested for murder, playing out the end of his life in gaol. i saw glenn jones play a few months ago and he had also had to have emergency manicure treatment at some korean nail salon in the arndale centre in manchester, but no superglue was involved.

ogmor, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

I guess what I meant by the Branca thing is less about the process/instrumentation really but more the music's use of space and how the music bypasses *notes* exactly into more of a microtonal region, especially when he busts the slide out into those long, loping, descending lines accompanied by the furious arpeggiation on the open strings, and the massive overtones conjured up by that, etc.

I think there's stuff simliar on like the first movement of Symphony no. 5? Take a gander at that to see what I'm getting at. Not even saying they are of some lineage or something but they evoke the same atmosphere to me. I dunno. This could all be just stupid.

And thanks for the heads up on the Saualito stuff, checking that out now... and of course the mediafire link is down on Doom and Gloom... some really sketchy looking site called 'Rockin CD' asking 10 bucks to stream... guess I'll pass on that.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

jim o'rourke says something similar in the liner notes to live in tasmania reissue, comparing him to charlemagne palestine - "ice cubes in a blender"

ogmor, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

i'll re-up that sausalito set, give me a sec

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

3 years after that recording, Fleetwood Mac would come in to that studio to record Rumours.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Oh ha, that blog's you, huh? Fuck yeah, dude, thanks! I'll be sure to poke around your posts some more, that's a nice writeup you've got there. I imagine you've got most of the Delta Slider Fahey recordings, but do you have "Live at the Barn?" i don't remember where I found that one (somewhere else, not Delta Slider) but if you don't have it and would be interested I could up that too. There's a track where Fahey exhorts the crowd to commit suicide with him? Kind of some heavy shit.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

i do have live at the barn. kind of a depressing listen! though he plays well for the most part.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

for some reason i just don't listen to a lot of solo guitar records. in general. maybe when i'm older. i did like that numero group comp of private press stuff though. i do like selling john fahey records. i kinda like that stuff that bill orcutt has been putting out. that stuff is pretty demented. but mostly its just the problem of being a record seller. basho/fahey/bull stuff is just too easy to sell. i never hold on to any of it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

wanna buy some rekkids?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/clt/3892820791.html

also for those in MD:
A COMMUNITY CELEBRATION OF JOHN FAHEY
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=150824&messages=1

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Fahey was a christian? And also a wife beater?

http://www.fretboardjournal.com/features/online/letters-john-fahey

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

yeesh, john fahey, what a kook! there's some interview where he says "I'm establishing contradictory mythologies all the time" (or something along those lines).

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

the john fahey handbook is fun btw -- kind of like vicariously being a total obsessive. it's certainly made me look at voice of the turtle in a new light. talk about contradictory mythologies. that said, it made me hope for a really great bio/analysis of the music -- did someone say byron coley was actually doing this?

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

he did a lot of xmas records so i guess i'm not surprised & obv in christ there is no east or west

adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

haha, well, as those letters show he had his own orthodoxy

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link

ha i fully accept fahey as completely nuts. some of the album art in voice of the turtle confirmed this for me years ago, along with reading some of his other writings.

also what kind of shape was he in in 1975 when those letters were written? pretty rough iirc? feel like he was in rough shape for most of the 70s, 80s, and 90s

marcos, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link


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