JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

i think part of my resistance w/ Ra too is that like when i was learning abt jazz i was the only person i knew who really fucked w/ his stuff really heavy, & i kind of liked that about it? that he was a weird, outside artist for ppl who identified w/ weird, outside artists. but seeing him shifted to the center of the canon is just weird

Does Shelly Manne even drum on any of these albums?

9    Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959) 2785 Points, 21 votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__sQ6AlsR3DY/S7aCJ0lSWEI/AAAAAAAAAbk/2a7Dl-aeo-8/s1600/kind+of+blue.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/42ge6JtPfeF6FEYXCJ50Gu

wow low

kerr spoilering the thread by adding albums to the Spotify list first, btw

Never heard of that one.

ruined by coffee shops imo

how about, stuff that was going against the grain of jazz' narrative?

― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 3:01 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

That's simply incorrect. In the 60s, the new music ("free jazz," "the new thing," "the avant-garde," etc.) was seen -- by both its adherents and detractors -- as the next step in the development of the music. It was not on the sidelines, not a tangent, not an offshoot; it was, in terms of musicians coming to terms with certain things and developing those things, what bebop had been in the 40s/50s. It also, like no previous movement in the music, harkened back to the earliest days of collective improvisation in the music.

nothing could ruin that record

wm, i add it like the second before posting! but i did wonder when someone would notice!

eh, KOB is still great, even if it's *the* token jazz album.

That's simply incorrect. In the 60s, the new music ("free jazz," "the new thing," "the avant-garde," etc.) was seen -- by both its adherents and detractors -- as the next step in the development of the music. It was not on the sidelines, not a tangent, not an offshoot; it was, in terms of musicians coming to terms with certain things and developing those things, what bebop had been in the 40s/50s. It also, like no previous movement in the music, harkened back to the earliest days of collective improvisation in the music.

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, September 2, 2011 2:37 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

we're not talking about the same records

Clint Eastwood's favorite record iirc

mainly because when i posted to ilx first i kept forgetting to add to spotify and had to go back and jig thinga round.

nothing could ruin that record

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, September 2, 2011 2:37 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

realest talk

xp Applies to Sun Ra, though.

was my 1st jazz album (picked up after listening to a friend play coltrane on a road trip...i was so clueless about jazz, i'd heard the name john coltrane but assumed he was from the 30s or something. even after hearing the music. don't know what trane it was)

You added Mwandishi 3 minutes early -- I thought about spoilering it here but am too nice a guy.

kind of blue v low wow

can understand a "not kind of blue again" compulsion tbh

smh @ castanets

― tylerw, Thursday, September 1, 2011

this was an underrated post btw

WmC: pollice

You never did get a chance to do that shop, did you, WmC?

For those interested in contemporary jazz harp, the player whose name comes up a lot these days is a (non-curvy) Colombian named Edmar Castañeda.

tbh i dont think anything that makes the top 10 can be seen as low, if it still beats ALS. Guessing it'll be Karma v. Black Saint v. Silent Way for #1

not a single #1 vote for KoB!

can understand a "not kind of blue again" compulsion tbh

― zvookster, Friday, September 2, 2011 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

of course you can u get to disagree w me again lol

(sorry about shelly manne xpost)

'black saint' is still my pick for overrated mingus record. its good but def not my favorite

was there ever a kind of blue vs a love supreme poll on ilm?

lol deej i didn't say justify tho!

That one pic of Hoos didn't lend itself to shopping into the cover, and just changing the text to KIND OF HOOS didn't seem worth it. #riderdemandsnogreenm&ms

I don't have a good handle on jazz and I love Sun Ra more than anyone else in jazz

ah um > black saint

otm

i listen more to mingusx5 than either these days tho

has mingusx5 charted? dont remember seeing it.

really worried bout Real McCoy making it.

yes it did

yep it charted. it's gr8 too of course

8    Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) 2859 Points, 19 vote One #1
http://dreamchimney.com/slvs/Sextant_20081207123524.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0J6PpQHDOcr54tXvh1MMCr

I love The Real McCoy, but is it really that much better that his other stuff as a leader?

^^^not horrible.

ok but then where is the rest of his stuff on this list?

I enjoy black saint when i'm listening to it but never find myself sitting around with it stuck in my head or having an urge to listen to it (or part of it) like i do w/other mingus.

Expansions, weren't it? xp

oh wait i forgot hornets, which is zzzzzzzzz.

know what, for the record i'm not even an official "record collector." i'm just a spiritual hat wearing nerd/plebe who likes stuff. next time someone asks what i like, i will just point angrily at the hat.

top 10 kinda surprising in order tbh!

billy hart on sextant is just insane

weirdo shit!
xp re: sextant

is that good or bad? People claiming stuff is 'too low' vs 'yawn boring canon picks fuck you ilm'?

my comments re: black saint also apply to Sextant. interesting listen, but rarely have an urge to hear it. it's like a movie with a plot twist, once I've heard it I don't really need to hear it again really even though I liked it a lot.

In every ilx thread ever:
A: You're a poser and your tastes clearly demonstrate that.
B: No, I'm not. Prove it. I like what I like because I like it and I like it a lot, I really, really like it.
A: I can't prove it, some people I once knew could have proved it but they washed away in the flood

Rinse and repeat.