JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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i always dug charles lloyd too, missing him here ...

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

im disappointed no-one took my offer on predicting the top 20. (already people have said they didn't as sure-fire choices had already placed low)

But it's much easier now, right?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

No idea of the order now but at least 2 more sun ra- futuristic sounds of and nuclear war are certainties. Duke ellington new orleans suite. Herbie hancocks sextant and headhunters. Miles davis in a silent way, bitches brew , black beauty at filmore west.and kind of blue. Frank zappa - hot rats. Nina simone at carnegie hall.Charlie parker story. Coltrane - a love supreme,my favourite things. Mingus - black saint and sinner lady. Mahavishno orchestra - birds of fire. Weather report s/t. Sonny rollins? Must have a few to come. Sinatra maybe?

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:16 (fourteen years ago)

I'll be shocked as hell if Hot Rats gets named tomorrow.

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:19 (fourteen years ago)

Still holding out for Bill Dixon's Intents and Purposes, though I know it's beyond a long shot at this point.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

Good call. But he did say shock misses and entries. But I think the albums i missed will be in the 25. Mingus to win if kob and als are too 'canon' for ilm. Maybe karma or headhunters. Can see sinatra maybe missing out from my list maybe. Anyone vote for him?

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:33 (fourteen years ago)

Still expecting to see Mingus Ah Um and Journey in Satchidananda

Number None, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:36 (fourteen years ago)

futuristic sounds of and nuclear war

No way.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

All the other nominated albums made it so why not those? Yo la tengo covered nuclear war does it get anymore rock friendly?

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:51 (fourteen years ago)

I've never seen enough enthusiasm here for those two albums to place them above the Sun Ra that's already placed. (Anyway, something one of the pollsters said seemed to imply no more Ra on the list.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)

They did? Where? Not one person mentioned space is the place yet it's placed high.

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 03:01 (fourteen years ago)

Controversial! Actually I have no idea why this is the highest Ra - it has a nice version of Space is the Place and that's about it. I did vote for it, mainly out of sentimental reasons: it was the first jazz album I ever bought and did have an effect on how I listened to music.

― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Thursday, September 1, 2011 6:54 PM (3 hours ago)

Since seandalai is one of the two pollrunners, I assumed this was an accidental spoiler.

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

Wasn't the conversation about what had placed so far? Armand was posting numbers of the artists albums that placed so far not all in, was he? Or has he inadvertently told us how many placed if each in full??! Hahahaha

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 03:17 (fourteen years ago)

Armand own up!

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 03:40 (fourteen years ago)

Will any Ella FItzgerald get in? Oh Dizzy Gillespie! Him and charlie parker will definitely be in. No vote splitting there.

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 04:47 (fourteen years ago)

no ben webster
no coleman hawkins
no billie holiday
no bud powell
no oscar peterson
no ahmad jamal
no django reinhardt
1 count basie
no buddy rich
no lionel hampton
no stan kenton
no louis armstrong
no gene krupa

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 06:28 (fourteen years ago)

otm fukked up

a few of those peaked prior to 45 tho

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:29 (fourteen years ago)

def but i will rep for at least one post 45 album for all of them

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 06:31 (fourteen years ago)

Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch not shown up yet, would love to see that in the top 25.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:32 (fourteen years ago)

im 100% sure thats in there

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:36 (fourteen years ago)

Yes Gavin, that's a strong contender for top ten in my book, but may be one of those shocking blind spots Armand's talking about.

Giant Steps is another of those maaaaybe... Maybe not. Also The Sidewinder.

Spectrist, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:39 (fourteen years ago)

i think both will def make it. worried about 'cornbread,' i love that album

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:40 (fourteen years ago)

i'm hoping ornette coleman's "the shape of punk to come" will appear.

charlie h, Friday, 2 September 2011 06:51 (fourteen years ago)

xp don't know Cornbread, will have to rectify that, as well as the unfamiliarity with the other hundred or so on the list, good heavens. Loving the results so far, once I'm out of the woods with work I can't wait to settle down with a solid ten-day playlist.

Spectrist, Friday, 2 September 2011 07:01 (fourteen years ago)

I'd be okay with Köln Concert not making my playlist btw. Can't say the same for poor Dexter Gordon tho.

Spectrist, Friday, 2 September 2011 07:05 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for an Art Tatum / Ben Webster LP but doubt it made it.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 07:29 (fourteen years ago)

no modern jazz quartet
no milt jackson
no deodato
no george benson

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 07:36 (fourteen years ago)

Things I expect to see:

Ascension
Blue Train
A Love Supreme
My Favourite Things
Giant Steps
Mingus Ah Um
Black Saint & the Dinner Lady
Journey in Satchidananda
Out To Lunch
The Sidewinder
In A Silent Way
Bitches Brew
Kind Of Blue
Sextant
Headhunters
Karma
The Real McCoy
Brilliant Corners
Spiritual Unity
Unity
Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely
Songs for Swingin' Lovers
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 08:50 (fourteen years ago)

Moondog ftw btw, fuiud

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 08:51 (fourteen years ago)

Would be great to see some Nina Simone & Billie Holiday too, no idea if folks could agree on favourite albums though.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:01 (fourteen years ago)

For any fans of cheapness out there who haven't heard Herbie Hancock's Crossings, I bought it yesterday for £1.69 from the Amazon MP3 store. Also got Pharoah Sanders' Black Unity album for £0.69.

― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 00:57 (10 hours ago) Bookmark

ooooh, really? do you have to sign up or any of that gunk or can you just download and pay like you were ordering a cd?

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

Re: the discussion long ago about expectations of hearing Ornette the first time - I had this too to a certain extent but it works in steps, right? I mean they were the first *free* band but they were still used to working with each other and knowing what each other was doing within jazz conventions, right? It wouldn't be till later that dudes would just tear it up for the sake of it, whereas those Ornette records still have a sense of "hey he's ripping it, i best stand back" etc.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:31 (fourteen years ago)

do you have to sign up or any of that gunk or can you just download and pay like you were ordering a cd?

No, you just go through the checkout in the normal way and then the file starts downloading. Think you might have to install the download program the first time round though, can't remember.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:37 (fourteen years ago)

cheers! unity here i come!

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

Billy Hart is on that one? Just saw him last week at Birdland, he was great. Hannibal Marvin Peterson? Black Unity here I come, even without UK bargain prices.

Olivia Newsun John (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)

25    Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures  (1966)  1983 Points 15 votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hLY9DmXXlH4/S-tGlIroIjI/AAAAAAAAB1c/y5_C52qvCmA/s1600/7942.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2GQNkSoyBPwTkpuzn8niec

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

My first Cecil record. I'd duly absorbed Ayler and late-period Coltrane for a year prior to hearing this, but this confused the shit outta me. Once the confusion passed, I couldn't stop listening to it.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

24    Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (1963) 2096 Points, 16 votes
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-MhNrNL5MTkQ/TBboYO63VhI/AAAAAAAAbAc/qsuHrKavvKM/the%252520sidewinder.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1n1trPeeY9Q5H4eLbbHHRg

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)

anybody here?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

someone should do a jazz covers poll, divided up into spiritual hat and non-spiritual hat.

Neil S, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)

seandalai is doing a spiritual hat poll after this but he's worried over arguments over 'but that isn't a jazz hat' type comments

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

xp I was going to poll all the hat covers.

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

If we descend to the level of arguing whether a given headpiece is a hat or not then we all deserve to die.

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

it's ilx

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

deej to thread

Neil S, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway thanks for this guys, an almost overwhelming number of new records to listen to, which I'm very excited about! Keep 'em coming...

Neil S, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RBFN7PJQL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

^ my favourite jazz hat cover

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

ilm where posters would rather argue over spiritual hats than music

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

hats, bicycles and jazz FTW

Neil S, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

more a cap than a hat imo

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:41 (fourteen years ago)


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