JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

oddly, maybe having my one single vote in this poll would of made the results more diverse

this is a pretty diverse list and Sun Ra is already well represented tho

A single #1 would have boosted Cosmic Tones from #105 to #73. Truly a missed opportunity!

last thing we needed was more sun ra!

or do we?

I just can't understand why Cosmic Tones would hit #105
I feel like if you put a bunch of jazzheads together you are gonna cut out the fringe listeners

pete townshend voted for 100 of them

its kinda funny that people are saying sun ra placed so low

fringe listeners have diametrically different opinions than a jazz hivemind

he suffered vote splitting im sure

if having nearly as many records as miles & trane counts as s'suffering'

I'm assuming one or two other Ra albums will still show up...? maybe that's being optimistic

jazz hivemind did 9/11

miles and trane outscored him so far though i lost count

Cosmic Tones certainly deserved to be higher. Search For The New Land is my favorite out of these last ones.

no Sun Ra album is better than Cosmic Tones

really?

easily really

I'd be inclined to agree.

lorax why would anyone only want to vote for one album? we didn't get less than a 10 vote ballot. Which is the way it should be. We got a good few full 100 ballots as well as mine.

its better than heliocentric worlds of?

or nothing is?

Totally. Black Myth/Out In Space a close second maybe. For me, anyway.

Just had to announce my #1 is all
Please go on

I own heliocentric worlds 1 and 2 and yes it is better

I personally prefer The Magic City, but I could go either way. I definitely don't think there is a single Sun Ra record that stands head-and-tinfoil-covered-shoulders above the rest, though.

lorax how about -

26 Sun Ra - Space is The Place (Impulse) 1982 Points, 17 votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8tRUd669B4I/TF8u_q4xaBI/AAAAAAAABeY/TsIP6btAWj4/s1600/Space+is+the+Place+(LP).jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4KsD7TdYrEd1NX0q5GMHNt

~cosmic hat~

nope

just get the hatbox set

that kind of puts the other mystical hats to shame tbh

speaking purely about the hat itself, not the music contained within the hat

Controversial! Actually I have no idea why this is the highest Ra - it has a nice version of Space is the Place and that's about it. I did vote for it, mainly out of sentimental reasons: it was the first jazz album I ever bought and did have an effect on how I listened to music.

Personally I am a fan of the music contained within that hat. And most of his other hats, too.

Do you have a hat, deej? Or is this partly hat envy?

Oh I see it has five stars from Allmusic, maybe it's more canonical than I thought.

YESSSSS

xp

I'm not even sure if I voted for that hat, to be honest. He is a man of too many hats.

im sure an actual sun ra albums ballot poll would have different results everytime.

For any fans of cheapness out there who haven't heard Herbie Hancock's Crossings, I bought it yesterday for £1.69 from the Amazon MP3 store. Also got Pharoah Sanders' Black Unity album for £0.69.

seandalai i think it was probably a lot of peoples first exposure. its on impulse,was reissued and easy to find.

Actually I have no idea why this is the highest Ra

I'd venture that it's because the album covers the broad range of styles Ra embraced - there's the chants, the free blowing, some loose big band swing, Rocket No. 9 has some goofy synth sounds - it's about as representative an album as he ever cut. and the movie it's associated with is definitely a masterpiece of some kind, so there's that.

but honestly I agree w/emil.y that there's no clear high point/masterwork in his catalog, he wasn't really that kind of artist. there's albums I prefer more than others for one reason or another, but none of them really encapsulate the whole of his vision and this one probably comes closest.

xp

probably the 1st sun ra cd I got after getting the heliocentric worlds of vinyls in fopp in byres road for a fiver each in the 90s.

rocket no 9 is awesome

'Rocket No. 9' is the song that the MC5 covered amirite?

Wow, I...I've never actually heard this. I've heard the soundtrack (the one on Evidence), but not this.

no. they "covered" Starship which was actually just some poem that the MC5 set to music of their own...? (I was confused re: this very point on some Sun Ra thread, cuz I'd never come across a song or poem called "Starship", and yet had seen it covered by the MC5 and Spacemen 3)

Oh shit, I'm conflating it with Rocket Reducer No. 62 aren't I?

Fucking rockets.

ahhh, i always wondered about that!! I just assumed it was from one of those hundreds of ra albums i'd never heard!

challops?
i prefer the spacemen 3 version

The "Space is the Place" on this album is probably the first song I ever heard by Sun Ra, that made an impression anyway (back in my teens). Actually, at this point I wouldn't mind if the song were a bit shorter, but the band sounds incredible.

Point of Departure is one of my jazz albums I really really wanted to like, but I could not get into it. I thought I was going to click with Andrew Hill after hearing some live solo recordings of his that I liked, but it never really happened for me. I do own Compulsion, but mostly for the sake of John Gilmore's presence.