JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

title track alone is really the standout -- amazing dolphy flute solo. rest of it is pleasant enough, but the title track is one of the greats.

Kind wishing I had voted now, to piss deej off more.

― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idg whats so bad about pointing out that a sci-fi cover & cult cachet are more likely to give an album a spot on this list frankly

'blues & the abstract truth,' tho -- that ones a gem

dude has blue skin in that cover shot, though -- alien?

that would explain why its finished so high

eh it just seems like theres a lot of focus on outsider record collector ish at the expense of, for lack of a better word, regular jazz

Calling this "record collector jazz" is pretty weird, but ILM certainly seems to favour a certain era and certain more avant-garde style(s) of jazz; this includes me too, btw. On the other hand, this being an albums poll (with no compilations allowed) certainly is gonna favour the era between when jazz became truly album-oriented (exemplified by Pharoah's extended songs, which only work in an album context) and when jazz's final age of innovation was over (roughly in the mid-seventies), and it became a genre mostly known for rehashing its past. So people are probably most likely to vote for records that most feel like albums in an albums poll, and trad jazz will suffer because of that. I hope there'll be a jazz singles/songs poll after this one, surely more traditional/regular forms of jazz would fare better in that one?

xxp but for real, that record is just a classic -- look who's playing on it! even if they were just phoning it in, it'd still be brilliant.

ez snappin volunteered in the nominations thread to do a pre-1945 tracks poll but who knows if he will be up for it still (previous experience tells me they deny volunteering or wriggle out of it).
If not and no-one else wants to, if seandalai agrees to help then I guess i could run it. but i have pretty much zero knowledge of pre-1945 jazz so if that disqualifies me then fair enough

maybe he didn't volunteer, it was his suggestion. you up for it ez snappin? Show us all how to run a poll?

68    Lonnie Liston Smith and the Cosmic Echoes - Astral Traveling (1973) 1048 Points, 11 votes
http://losslessjazz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lonnie-Liston-Smith-The-Cosmic-Echoes-Astral-Traveling-1973-FLAC.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4H9dvIFBlaTY8LbBmSTFjX

Oliver Nelson, same guy who wrote the theme to The Six Million Dollar Man.

Oliver Nelson was one of my top picks. I'm off to catch a plane, have fun!

yay for lonnie liston smith making it

Okay, that's one I am completely clueless about. The name sounds kind of familiar, but just pseudo-familiar since I have zero associations with it.

haw, more spiritual hats.
that one is good, pretty groovy vibe, spacey keys.

id be surprised if he doesnt make it again

I know Lonnie Smith from various soul/jazz sorta things, but this is a different dude iirc

yeah he played on thembi and karma

on the corner too

"Expansions" will make it i'd imagine

yeah thats what i was thinking. although once again i think of that as more a disco / pop album than a jazz one

67    Hank Mobley - Roll Call (1960)  1049 (Points) 10 votes, One #1
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kurtmkGQja1qaq8flo1_500.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2wXfYEZKGQlfy2hKZbwtU7

hoped that would be much higher

really guys, check it out

66    John Coltrane - Meditations (1965) 1069 Points, 9 votes, One #1 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IyDZgXq8QH0/SdBzSe3CMPI/AAAAAAAACkg/HNOUFFyAqVs/s400/John+Coltrane+-+Meditations.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3suMuCIVtRVI6quioihY23

Seconding the 'The Blues and the Abstract Truth' love. Amazing title track. Really hoping Search for the New Land (Lee Morgan) makes this list.

really guys, check it out

never paid much attention to Mobley, listening to this now... pretty nice

Oliver Nelson, same guy who wrote the theme to The Six Million Dollar Man.
--Geirge Hongriot (NickB)

Is Sonny Sharrock the only post-1980 album on the list so far? (Not that I expect there'll be many to come. A post-'80 poll would be interesting, but I guess would get a lot fewer votes.)

Or guess I should say albums, forgot that was the second Sharrock on here.

Meditations was my #1. That record had a profound effect on me when I was in my teens, listening to that was such a great physical and emotional experience.

Think he got burned out working in Tinseltown, at least that's the story I heard

Yeah, he died shortly afterwards of a heart attack at the age of 43.

im not sure, but pretty funny if it is considering everyone said to do an all-time instead of 1950-75 poll as i had intended

xps

and now for the 3rd album in a row with a #1

65    Cecil Taylor - Conquistador (1966) 1071 Points, 10 votes, ON.E # 1 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JI310rDTx90/S8S1-GMH-OI/AAAAAAAAAuA/lLht3FmSwe8/s320/booklet-outside-foldedkicsi.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/69OZHsomLpQigZdQuTWHqx

That's... not one of my Cecil Taylor favorites.

the cool thing about jazz is how it all connects on some (higher) plane, don't forget sun ra played w/fletcher henderson's big band

i envy anybody who hasn't heard blues & the abstract truth - you're in for a treat

haha yes

speaking of oliver nelson arrangements i wonder if sonny rollins' alfie will place?

Anyone noticed that there's only been 1 Sun Ra album today?

but guess what?

he's not up next

64 Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century (1960) 1083 points, 10 votes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HmvaR5cGW80/TIqDVgCNUEI/AAAAAAAAAXM/om0QJ92U2Co/s1600/change.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0ME2xPIm65f5cJve3ALqdi

i definitely voted for this one

oh it seems i didn't.. dont know why

going over this thread and listening to nothing but jazz in the last couple days - I've realized I have very little understanding/conception of the jazz audience of the 60s. I kind of assume jazz reached its commercial/popular peak much earlier (I know Miles' best-selling albums were in the 60s, but the ubiquity of jazz as a dominant style seems undeniable for earlier eras like the 20s-40s than it does for the 60s, what with r'n'r in the picture), but as a genre the general consensus represented here is that the aesthetic/artistic peak was in the late 50s through the 60s. This is when a lot of the essential ingredients of jazz - swing, improvisation, acoustic ensemble playing - became really intensely refined. But exactly how popular was, say, a giant like John Coltrane...? I have no idea. And who bought these records? Middle-class black people, white "intellectuals"...? I can't really see Hank Mobley and Grant Green appealling much to teenagers, the whole Blue Note vibe is one of adult sophistication, for example.

i voted for 4 of his so i guess it got culled from 5

I wish we could all have just voted for the "Beauty is a Rare Thing" compilation. I didn't feel comfortable voting for any Ornette album on its own, haha. I feel that way about Cecil Taylor, too... nothing feels fully representative.

like I would guess the genre skewed older and richer...? Black kids were being sold r&b, motown, etc. and white kids were being peddled a combination of pop and rock, I kinda can't imagine jazz was even on the menu for most younger music consumers...

xp

(Though I did vote for Ornette & Cecil albums)