JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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who cares
can't we just celebrate how great he is? it's OVERWHELMINGLY TRUE that he is great
i can feel it in my spiritual hat

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

lol

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone know where that cover photo was taken? for some reason i feel like i've been there, but it is probably somewhere in China.

Those rocks look like New Jersey shore to me, but I don't know.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Kind wishing I had voted now, to piss deej off more.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

69    Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth (1961) 1035 Points, 9 votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5uhOn1UDIXg/TdViVRyVXCI/AAAAAAAACUI/8UXgsTz6ihs/s1600/oliver.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5eYXXVTYehJrV1caDN4pmd

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

xxp the new jersey shore, home of the most spiritual jazz

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

don't know this one but I certainly will be checking it out

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

title track alone is really the standout -- amazing dolphy flute solo. rest of it is pleasant enough, but the title track is one of the greats.

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

Kind wishing I had voted now, to piss deej off more.

― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idg whats so bad about pointing out that a sci-fi cover & cult cachet are more likely to give an album a spot on this list frankly

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

'blues & the abstract truth,' tho -- that ones a gem

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

dude has blue skin in that cover shot, though -- alien?

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

that would explain why its finished so high

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

eh it just seems like theres a lot of focus on outsider record collector ish at the expense of, for lack of a better word, regular jazz

Calling this "record collector jazz" is pretty weird, but ILM certainly seems to favour a certain era and certain more avant-garde style(s) of jazz; this includes me too, btw. On the other hand, this being an albums poll (with no compilations allowed) certainly is gonna favour the era between when jazz became truly album-oriented (exemplified by Pharoah's extended songs, which only work in an album context) and when jazz's final age of innovation was over (roughly in the mid-seventies), and it became a genre mostly known for rehashing its past. So people are probably most likely to vote for records that most feel like albums in an albums poll, and trad jazz will suffer because of that. I hope there'll be a jazz singles/songs poll after this one, surely more traditional/regular forms of jazz would fare better in that one?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

xxp but for real, that record is just a classic -- look who's playing on it! even if they were just phoning it in, it'd still be brilliant.

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

ez snappin volunteered in the nominations thread to do a pre-1945 tracks poll but who knows if he will be up for it still (previous experience tells me they deny volunteering or wriggle out of it).
If not and no-one else wants to, if seandalai agrees to help then I guess i could run it. but i have pretty much zero knowledge of pre-1945 jazz so if that disqualifies me then fair enough

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

maybe he didn't volunteer, it was his suggestion. you up for it ez snappin? Show us all how to run a poll?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

68    Lonnie Liston Smith and the Cosmic Echoes - Astral Traveling (1973) 1048 Points, 11 votes
http://losslessjazz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lonnie-Liston-Smith-The-Cosmic-Echoes-Astral-Traveling-1973-FLAC.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4H9dvIFBlaTY8LbBmSTFjX

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Oliver Nelson, same guy who wrote the theme to The Six Million Dollar Man.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

Oliver Nelson was one of my top picks. I'm off to catch a plane, have fun!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

yay for lonnie liston smith making it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, that's one I am completely clueless about. The name sounds kind of familiar, but just pseudo-familiar since I have zero associations with it.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

haw, more spiritual hats.
that one is good, pretty groovy vibe, spacey keys.

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

id be surprised if he doesnt make it again

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

I know Lonnie Smith from various soul/jazz sorta things, but this is a different dude iirc

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he played on thembi and karma

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

on the corner too

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Expansions" will make it i'd imagine

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah thats what i was thinking. although once again i think of that as more a disco / pop album than a jazz one

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

67    Hank Mobley - Roll Call (1960)  1049 (Points) 10 votes, One #1
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kurtmkGQja1qaq8flo1_500.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2wXfYEZKGQlfy2hKZbwtU7

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

hoped that would be much higher

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

really guys, check it out

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

66    John Coltrane - Meditations (1965) 1069 Points, 9 votes, One #1 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IyDZgXq8QH0/SdBzSe3CMPI/AAAAAAAACkg/HNOUFFyAqVs/s400/John+Coltrane+-+Meditations.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3suMuCIVtRVI6quioihY23

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

Seconding the 'The Blues and the Abstract Truth' love. Amazing title track. Really hoping Search for the New Land (Lee Morgan) makes this list.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

really guys, check it out

never paid much attention to Mobley, listening to this now... pretty nice

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Oliver Nelson, same guy who wrote the theme to The Six Million Dollar Man.
--Geirge Hongriot (NickB)

Think he got burned out working in Tinseltown, at least that's the story I heard

Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Is Sonny Sharrock the only post-1980 album on the list so far? (Not that I expect there'll be many to come. A post-'80 poll would be interesting, but I guess would get a lot fewer votes.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Or guess I should say albums, forgot that was the second Sharrock on here.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

Meditations was my #1. That record had a profound effect on me when I was in my teens, listening to that was such a great physical and emotional experience.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

Think he got burned out working in Tinseltown, at least that's the story I heard

Yeah, he died shortly afterwards of a heart attack at the age of 43.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

im not sure, but pretty funny if it is considering everyone said to do an all-time instead of 1950-75 poll as i had intended

xps

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

and now for the 3rd album in a row with a #1

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

65    Cecil Taylor - Conquistador (1966) 1071 Points, 10 votes, ON.E # 1 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JI310rDTx90/S8S1-GMH-OI/AAAAAAAAAuA/lLht3FmSwe8/s320/booklet-outside-foldedkicsi.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/69OZHsomLpQigZdQuTWHqx

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

That's... not one of my Cecil Taylor favorites.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

the cool thing about jazz is how it all connects on some (higher) plane, don't forget sun ra played w/fletcher henderson's big band

i envy anybody who hasn't heard blues & the abstract truth - you're in for a treat

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

haha yes

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of oliver nelson arrangements i wonder if sonny rollins' alfie will place?

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone noticed that there's only been 1 Sun Ra album today?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

but guess what?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

he's not up next

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

64 Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century (1960) 1083 points, 10 votes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HmvaR5cGW80/TIqDVgCNUEI/AAAAAAAAAXM/om0QJ92U2Co/s1600/change.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0ME2xPIm65f5cJve3ALqdi

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link


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