JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

72    Archie Shepp - The Way Ahead (1969) 1003 Points, 9 votes
http://www.twitteringmachines.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/wayahead.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/32zeUU48gmDcaKb3nrju2i

i thought you were a muso shakey?

I know a little (very tiny) bit, but I have no idea how one is supposed to interpret those scores. I mean they LOOK cool, I just don't know what half the symbols/notations are supposed to represent

That score kind of reminds me of this: http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2011/08/24/nsfw_notation.gif

^ talking of musos ;)

On a (slightly) more serious note, I do love those scores. See also Cardew's 'Treatise' (not jazz).

Shakey, I bet geir could understand them.

I hate how it says it's in Db but it has a key signature of F.

But then I'm a rotter who identifies with teh formalists, so I would love 'em.

xposts to myself

having never played an instrument or anything those scores look like funny squiggles to me

treatise is a different beast tho. braxton is still at least somewhat grounded in traditional notation

emil.y loves nepotism
xps

The title of Composition No. 65: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/ABComp65.gif

you drew that yourself and are showing off

not heard anything 'new to me' yet referenced in this thread as i'm currently offline, and at work i no longer have access to spotify.
however, this thread will be a perfect reference point when i get back to my normal life, and have access to a local fopp !
oh, and given the love throughout, it looks like pharoah sanders is going to be one such discovery.

Maybe you all will enjoy this if you haven't already seen it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtSYQAtK6RY

oh, and given the love throughout, it looks like pharoah sanders is going to be one such discovery.

guess who is up next btw

71    Pharoah Sanders - Thembi (1971)  1007 Points, 9 votes
http://joshthought.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/pharoah_sanders_thembi.jpg?w=400&h=400
http://open.spotify.com/album/5bNLEyWCkiYC5ZoMxSWMWB

oh look who is up next

thembi!

70 Pharoah Sanders - Black Unity (1971) 1007 Points, 11 votes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IyDZgXq8QH0/ST49kET7PRI/AAAAAAAACUQ/nGU5mmJTQtU/s400/Pharoah+Sanders+1971+Black+Unity.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0KoD7a0hPzomZjLgVmEYuN

THEMBI. Anyone know where that cover photo was taken? for some reason i feel like i've been there, but it is probably somewhere in China.

this shit is kinda ridic

spiritual hippie record collector jazz

i listen to PS every thanksgiving ALL DAY LONG and it is my favorite holiday tradition

deej Pharoah Sanders is awesome!

He really is

not exactly sure what d-40 is on about -- just cuz it might be "record collector jazz" doesn't mean it's not good! sort of agree about the sun ra presence in this poll, but he's still got at least four or five masterpieces.

I only have Karma and Thembi but both are awesome, don't see how anyone could seriously knock dude's technique

never has a post been so superfluous
of course he's awesome

if that makes me a spiritual hippie record collector then where's my hat and my flute

eh it just seems like theres a lot of focus on outsider record collector ish at the expense of, for lack of a better word, regular jazz

this is not a judgment of pharoah sanders as an artist

also remember a fair bit of the sun ra was low down in the 250

who cares
can't we just celebrate how great he is? it's OVERWHELMINGLY TRUE that he is great
i can feel it in my spiritual hat

lol

Anyone know where that cover photo was taken? for some reason i feel like i've been there, but it is probably somewhere in China.

Those rocks look like New Jersey shore to me, but I don't know.

Kind wishing I had voted now, to piss deej off more.

69    Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth (1961) 1035 Points, 9 votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5uhOn1UDIXg/TdViVRyVXCI/AAAAAAAACUI/8UXgsTz6ihs/s1600/oliver.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5eYXXVTYehJrV1caDN4pmd

xxp the new jersey shore, home of the most spiritual jazz

don't know this one but I certainly will be checking it out

title track alone is really the standout -- amazing dolphy flute solo. rest of it is pleasant enough, but the title track is one of the greats.

Kind wishing I had voted now, to piss deej off more.

― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idg whats so bad about pointing out that a sci-fi cover & cult cachet are more likely to give an album a spot on this list frankly

'blues & the abstract truth,' tho -- that ones a gem

dude has blue skin in that cover shot, though -- alien?

that would explain why its finished so high

eh it just seems like theres a lot of focus on outsider record collector ish at the expense of, for lack of a better word, regular jazz

Calling this "record collector jazz" is pretty weird, but ILM certainly seems to favour a certain era and certain more avant-garde style(s) of jazz; this includes me too, btw. On the other hand, this being an albums poll (with no compilations allowed) certainly is gonna favour the era between when jazz became truly album-oriented (exemplified by Pharoah's extended songs, which only work in an album context) and when jazz's final age of innovation was over (roughly in the mid-seventies), and it became a genre mostly known for rehashing its past. So people are probably most likely to vote for records that most feel like albums in an albums poll, and trad jazz will suffer because of that. I hope there'll be a jazz singles/songs poll after this one, surely more traditional/regular forms of jazz would fare better in that one?

xxp but for real, that record is just a classic -- look who's playing on it! even if they were just phoning it in, it'd still be brilliant.

ez snappin volunteered in the nominations thread to do a pre-1945 tracks poll but who knows if he will be up for it still (previous experience tells me they deny volunteering or wriggle out of it).
If not and no-one else wants to, if seandalai agrees to help then I guess i could run it. but i have pretty much zero knowledge of pre-1945 jazz so if that disqualifies me then fair enough

maybe he didn't volunteer, it was his suggestion. you up for it ez snappin? Show us all how to run a poll?

68    Lonnie Liston Smith and the Cosmic Echoes - Astral Traveling (1973) 1048 Points, 11 votes
http://losslessjazz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lonnie-Liston-Smith-The-Cosmic-Echoes-Astral-Traveling-1973-FLAC.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4H9dvIFBlaTY8LbBmSTFjX