JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

I like that one, but Journey in Satchidananda is superior imho. UC has some more dissonant/out there moments, I guess.

wish you (and others) had all voted, although you would all vote for different things and cancel each other out and placings would remain the same.

or sun ra would fill up the top 10 completely

xp

not just two people

i bet every other record in this poll has been sampled to shit

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:51 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is weird because sampling as a general opportunity only really existed within about a 10 year gap between ppl learning to do it and ppl getting sued for doing it. so they got through all the great funk records and were starting to move onto jazz/soul/anything before you had to start paying up. so it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these records haven't been sampled at all even if they could all be flipped into something else worth hearing in a different context.

I am one of those two people Kerr refers to. Universal Consciousness is fucking transcendent on so many levels. Hearing Rashied Ali battling it out with Alice on the organ makes you think "Things can't get better than this" but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.

a hoy hoy OTM re: sampling

i remember hearing a bunch of rap songs with jazz samples years ago.
if someone ever says 'funky funky' during a herbie hancock track again im gonna hit them with a cricket bat

but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.

string sections in jazz? smh at this fool

unless that string section is john mclaughlin

Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.

there are plenty of songs with jazz samples (even as early as the late 80s) but the genre didn't get mined nearly as deeply as 70s funk+rock tracks did due to the legalities involved. Blue Note was all over that shit - so much so that they had their own "ALL SAMPLES LICENSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM BLUE NOTE VAULTS" project (ie this pinnacle of "jazz rap" lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ira3LoZiTWc

xp

string sections in jazz? smh at this fool

jazz is full of string sections fyi

is that one where some twat says 'funky funky'?
xp

I believe it is!

*shudders*

Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.

― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), den 31 augusti 2011 19:59 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol a perfect description. not enough string sections arranged by ornette coleman in jazz

there was also stuff like this

The strings in "Oh Allah" = one of the most beautiful things ever. Alice's string arrangements were so unique and never just... frosting.

and Guru's jazzmatazz etc. the approach was fairly high profile for a couple years but it dead-ended quickly and by the mid-90s sampling was already getting strangled via legalities so sampling jazz records kind of dried up as a wholesale approach. I'm sure producers still mine certain records for particular sounds (snare hits, etc) but no one's looping Hank Mobley records afaict

xp

sonderangerbot, actually - the strings on UC weren't arranged by Ornette. Ornette only transcribed the strings of the title track, but Alice arranged it all.

strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.

78    John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/coltra_john_coltrane~_101b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0TpLOjblGPWIGjZbjCKRNW

xp ah you're right, always thought he wrote them as well

STILL going to go on complaining that as laptops make it super easy and sticking it on the internet make sample laws pointless, it sucks that no-one has gone back to that style.

strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.

― tylerw, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 PM (24 seconds ago)

Or like some of Rahsaan Roland Kirk's strings! Especially on Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle.

^^^Coltrane is off the hook fantastic. ha, so many great coltrane albums. the opener, out of this world, is maybe my favorite extended coltrane performance, just incredible forward motion rush.

I know jazz is full of string sections & I like plenty of them but I generally like my jazz less arranged

Have you heard Universal Consciousness, crut? Seems to me like something you'd dig.

tyler otm

this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive

thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead

I haven't actually - I probably would!

yeah the strings on UC aren't of the "let's make this music more palatable for the mainstream" variety -- not by a longshot.

77    Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/davis_miles_cookinwit_101b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/7jJehBSw44CijLhPaPKmTE

Stan Getz' Focus is my fav jazz w/strings album

what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?

I guess having 100 slots on the ballot made it easier for people to vote for e.g. 20 Miles albums, though I can't actually remember how many people did this.

what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?

― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)

this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive

thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead

― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)

ive never posted on that thread. as a non-muso i dont feel qualified!

76    David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 votes
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4483658568_60e1225e1c_o.jpg

never heard of that one. what's the deal

My new prediction for number one is Tutu.

Ssh!

An accessible way in for people who don't like their jazz too outside but want to be able to say they like some Anthony Braxton, is part of it. Thing is, the heads are great and the playing's great, too.

I take that back -- I'm relistening now and Braxton and Rivers are not taking any prisoners.

also lol i guess i did buy esp! haven't listened yet to see if that crazy scratch has destroyed it or i got bargain miles awesomeness

75 Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962) 976 Points, 8 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411b2jHI3hL.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6TylsbZ11vSNjYC4gh0KuY

really good record,another one I had to cull from my list

ok that looks like a record i need in my life

if i wasnt about to get picked up to see planet of the apes, i'd totally be pumping my speakers up

im gonna be honest here, i think this is my fave alltime poll list on ilx ever,and i'm not saying it because sean & I are running it.It's because of you guys voting for some awesome albums.
Might not always agree with the placings, but the actual records are mostly greatness , and I'm sure the ones i dont know will be good too.

And a LOT of awesome albums to come, but take it from me if you have just joined, there are lots of genuine must haves in the 250 (and even outside it as there's a good few albums I thought would be top 100)

lol this may be my favourite ilx poll i've never personally done (but then i did tv + hiphop and they are my favourite things so). that and the one where the space jam ost came #2

how many ballots did the alltime hiphop poll get?